Now there is a problem with meat?

[Greengoddess]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... SApp_Other

Meat and cancer risks..?

[Chemgirl]

This is old news if you ask most doctors. The key is that they are referring to processed and smoked meats (also beef to a lesser extent).

Pregnant women have been told to avoid bacon and hot dogs for years due to a slightly increased risk of childhood cancer.

I don't recall the exact name of the study, but I think I read it on here where instances colon cancer in African Americans was compared to instances in colon cancer in African people and the difference was dramatic. Almost no colon cancer in Africa and a very high instance in North America (rate of diagnoses could be a factor here). The really interesting part happened when they had the African American study group eat a diet similar to what one would eat in Africa. Early signs of damage were reversed! I think the headline was something like "American diet causes cancer."

I think it is important to note that people who eat diets heavy in processed meat tend to not be the most health conscious. There could be other factors influencing the increased cancer risk.

I think a good policy is to eat a variety of fresh meats so you don't overload on one particular thing. I didn't see them mention anything about unprocessed chicken, turkey, and fish so there you go.

[Lilja]

WHO should be more concerned about other things than how people in industrial countries should eat their meat.

People today in our part of the world are well educated and enligthened, and are perfectly able to make their own decisions.

A few years ago eating eggs was dangerous. Before that, salt was the big sinner. Now people get uncertain and start to believe the propaganda, and have become so afraid of sunlight that they cover themselves with SF 50, and get vitamin D depleted.

There is so much scare propaganda as to food and health these days. How and why did all this start?

Today, journalists don't ask questions, they don't investigate.

Critical journalism does not exist any more.

Lilia

[JFR]

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Meat and cancer risks..?

Don't believe everything you read. As Chem girl says this is not new information and there has always been a lot to question about this conclusion, especially, in my opinion, the mixing together of processed meat and red meat as if they were the same thing. I agree with Lilja. This is scaremongering.

Jean

[Blueberry]

I thought Dr. Davis has an excellent write up on this, with the nature of observational studies such as the WHO is mentioning about meat and basically how those kinds of studies shouldn't be used to create national or world nutritional guidance.

"Go ahead: Eat your meat"

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2015/10/g ... your-meat/

With our MC condition, we're slightly different from the general public in what we can and can not comfortably eat. At the moment I'm avoiding beef and dairy and seem to be doing better in many areas of my health. Tex would know further on this, but from what I was told by my GI physician MC is not associated with a greater risk for bowel cancer in comparison to the general public. I've also seen a study on Dr. John Hunter's Crohn's and Colitis UK sight in which it showed those with IBD conditions were at an elevated risk for bowel cancer when immune suppressant medications are used, such as prednisone, Humira, etc. Those with IBD conditions that do not take immune suppressant medication had the same risk of cancer as the general public.

[DJ]

In response to the most recent meat study, I will cut back on bacon a bit. That's it. Our dietary needs are very complex and socially difficult - stress also leads to illness. I'm not willing to increase the complexity of a complex life. When I eat steak with sauteed peppers, onions, and mushrooms, I will not quake in my shoes The news story I heard said that processed meat raises the risk cancer by 18% and smoking raises the risk of cancer by 2000%. I've decided that I will not take up smoking

[HappyBird]

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Meat and cancer risks..?

When I heard this leaked information from the WHO without proper scientific study to back it up I thought it was very damaging to farming and those smaller butchery busineses and the public.

All these irresponsible reports made by journalists looking for a grabbing headline just make me sick to the back teeth. I wish the government would step in and prevent this type of damaging nonsence. IMO, journalists are not qualified to write about food, that should be left to scientists, doctors and registered dieticians. The public are gullible in the main and easily led around by the nose not realising the source is not reliable.

It sickens me to think young mothers around the country, world will be put off feeding their families beef. The dangerous food, including beef, are the factory cooked and prepared ready meals made for supermarkets to fit a price point. These nasty people put all manner of trimmings and additives to the cheap ready meals and pies to kerp the price down but sell it at huge prifits. As one goes up to the middle range of ready meals there is more meat and supposedly the premium product is the most reliable product but much more expensive.

All my life I have cooked fresh food from scratch - that is the ony way to know what you are eating. Good quality beef from a reputable trusted supplier gives more benefits than negatives, don't stop eating good quality beef, its good for you. Dump ready meals.

In the UK we have a number of farmer supplying grass fed animal products - these animals are not fed wheat products and are the livestock that is dotted around our landscape. I avoid factory bred chickens and beef cattle who never see the light of day. These poor beasts are cruelly fed on products and hormones to fatten then up as fast as possible.

My advice is always to take advice from good sound learned sources. Journalists and food industry giants all have a hidden agenda - take hat they say ith a bag of salt and wait for the official government report and recommendations before making deep hsrmful changes, IMO.

[JFR]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... SApp_Other

Meat and cancer risks..?

All these irresponsible reports made by journalists looking for a gragging headline just make me sick to the back teeth. I wish the government would step in and prevent this type of damaging nonsence. IMO, journalists are not qualified to write about food, that should be left to scientists, doctors and registered dieticians.

The government helps promulgate harmful nutritional advice with the help of most doctors, scientists and dietitians. There is almost no nutritional science. It's mostly propaganda and politics. For me common sense says just eat real single ingredient food, which includes beef from grassfed cows.

Jean

[HappyBird]

Hello Jean........

There are certain things that fire me up and irresponsible reporting & journalism is right near the top of this list.

[brandy]

I eat uncured bacon, pricey but yum! (No nitrates.)