Anesthesia and MC

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:36 pm

Hi,

Today I had an appointment with an orthopedist, and he suggested surgery. He would let me know next week when the results of the MRI and x-rays were ready. He thinks I have spinal stenosis and something I understood as pinched sciatic nerves, as well as trouble with my tailbone. All this due to acute trauma 2 years ago. 2 years with awful pains.

Well...

I like to be ahead of things, so I'm thinking about the anesthesia. I usually have very low blood pressure, and last time I had surgery they struggled to get my BP up again, when they woke me up, so I will have to inform them about that.

I also wonder if there are anestethics that are more harmful to MC-people than others?

I would appreciate to hear your opinions

Lilia

ponywoman · Post by **ponywoman** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:03 pm

Lilja I don't have an answer for you but I have a similar question: what happens if one has on going MC &, say, wants to go in the hospital for knee surgery. How do you plan to "handle" your colitis symptoms while in the hospital? I was only in the hospital over nite 1x during the pre-colitis time of my 68 yrs. and it took ages for the nurses to come unhook me from the IV so I could make a bathroom trip. When I was in the ER last Fall (collapsing from a week of straight water diarrhea while GI doc refused to refill my budesonide script), the nurses had to park me 2' from a bathroom while awaiting the ER doc's visit. Do they do this for you folks having surgery who are undergoing a very active colitis flare? Or can they prescribe possibly a narcotic infusion in order to literally stop the diarrhea while in hospital? Incidentally, when the ER doc told the nurse to give me morphine for ( rheumatoid & severe back pain), my colitis miraculously stopped & I had no problems for weeks....especially as the ER doc got my GI doc to refill my budesonide!

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:16 am

Hi Ponnywoman,

That's some story. I was hospitalized in 2010, and they put me in an "isolation" room (I don't know what you call it in English), because they were afraid it was contagious before all tests were done.

I do not have D anymore, but I'm afraid that they will give me something, anesthetics or other medications, that will jeopardize my remission.

Lilia

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:42 pm

Lilja, Spine surgery is daunting but the results can be amazing. I had a spinal fusion because of unbearable pain caused by stenosis, bulging and herniated discs as well as unstable spondylolisthesis. It was a wonderful success. This surgery occurred before the onset of MC. I have had 2 orthopedic surgeries after MC and didn't have a problem with anesthesia. Definitely let your surgeon and anesthesiologist about your blood pressure concerns.

If possible, meet with the hospital dietician and outline your food needs. If she can't meet your needs, ask a friend to bring you food that you can eat.

Good luck, Lilja.

Sheila W

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:22 am

Sheila wrote:Lilja, Spine surgery is daunting but the results can be amazing. I had a spinal fusion because of unbearable pain caused by stenosis, bulging and herniated discs as well as unstable spondylolisthesis. It was a wonderful success. This surgery occurred before the onset of MC. I have had 2 orthopedic surgeries after MC and didn't have a problem with anesthesia. Definitely let your surgeon and anesthesiologist about your blood pressure concerns.

If possible, meet with the hospital dietician and outline your food needs. If she can't meet your needs, ask a friend to bring you food that you can eat.

Good luck, Lilja.

Sheila W

Thank you, Sheila.

This surgery is a socalled "day surgery", where you arrive at 9 a.m., and are dismissed around 5 p.m. if the surgery has been without problems. This is "new public management within health care" carried out in practice...

I'm having surgery November 3, on my sciatic nerves and on my spinal stenosis, and I'm terrified.

I will make bone broth and a couple of dishes and freeze them, so I have something to eat during the first days of recovery.

Lilia

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:34 am

Lilja,
I was in the chaos of moving house when you first posted this, and missed it.

My research and physical learnings is that anaesthesia triggers histamine -mast cells.
Also it blocks methylation cycle,

In the past taking anti-histamines has helped me. Going forward next time I have to have anesthesia I will have extra B6 and B12 just before and after, and take extra methionine.

Yes, low inflammation easy to digest meals are essential to helping the body recover.
Lots of water to help the body clear the ingredients of the anesthesia...
Epsom salt foot soak to draw toxins out.

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:12 pm

Thank you, Gabes!

I appreciate your advice.

I didn't know that Epsom salt draws toxins out. Very good advice.

Lilia

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:40 pm

There are quite a few inactive ingredients in anesthesia.... I seem to recall that soy is one of them.
Most anesthesia also has adrenalin as this reduces bleeding.

I always plan to not work a day or two after anesthesia so I can nurture the body, and let it recover. (Even for in the chair dental work)

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:50 pm

Hi,

I had a ABC 56 Decompression of Cauda and righthanded roots today. The surgery took 1,5 hrs, and dr said it was very complicated. No surgery was done on the lefthand side because of the difficult anatomic "landmarks".

Medications:
I was given Keflin 2 grams, and 10 ml Marcain 0.5% with adrenaline twice during surgery.

After surgery they gave me a prescription of painkillers (Pinex Forte 500 mg) which contains soy lecithin, and Voltaren 50 mg (infection suppressing), which contains lactose.

I have had no pain since surgery (11 hours).

To be on the safe side I have taken 1 Pinex Forte and 1 Voltaren tonight before I go to sleep.

If I get no pains from the surgery, I will drop the Pinex Forte, but maybe I should continue the Voltaren to avoid infections?

Lilia

Post by **tex** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:30 pm

Hi Lilia,

Voltaren is not an antibiotic — it's an NSAID, so it's for pain, not to prevent infection. Your doctor should not have recommended that for an MC patient. I hope it doesn't cause a flare.

Pinex Forte is a combination of acetaminophen (paracetamol) and codeine, so it should be safe for your MC.

I hope that you recover quickly.

Tex

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:09 pm

tex wrote:Hi Lilia,

Voltaren is not an antibiotic — it's an NSAID, so it's for pain, not to prevent infection. Your doctor should not have recommended that for an MC patient. I hope it doesn't cause a flare.

Pinex Forte is a combination of acetaminophen (paracetamol) and codeine, so it should be safe for your MC.

I hope that you recover quickly.

Tex

Thank you, Tex!

I did take only the one Voltaren, and the night has been quiet. I remeber that I reacted when I saw Voltaren on the prescription, since I know from the back of my head that it is used for muscle and skeletal pains. But, I was rather confused so short after surgery.

I'm grateful that this has been simple and painfree, this far

Lilia

mcardle3 · Post by **mcardle3** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:01 pm

I've had 4 rhizotomies which are out patient procedures for my facet issues and pinched nerves. I recommend it highly. The procedure is easy and lasts (for me) about 2 years.

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:48 am

Hi all,

I have been so blessed!

I haven't had to take any medications after surgery, except for the one Voltaren and one Pinex Forte the first day.

I have no pains, I can walk around and sit for a few minutes.

I should have taken this surgery two years ago, that would have saved me much worry and pain.

Lilia

Post by **tex** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:56 am

Great! Thanks for the update.

Tex