Is salad a no-no?

mcardle3 · Post by **mcardle3** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:04 am

I've been on entocort now for a couple weeks, gluten free for a month and the difference is amazing.

Even on the entocort I find that if I eat a little salad, forget about it, I'm up all night with sludge stools that have unprocessed lettuces in it. (TMI, but there you have it.)

I LOVE salad, in fact it is something I miss having more than I do donuts (yeasty hot rolls though, holy heck I still miss that).

Is salad a no-no for us?

JFR · Post by **JFR** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:24 pm

I can eat salads but I waited 2.5 years of gf, df, sf, ef as well as a few more indicated on the Enterolab testing along with only minimal well cooked vegetables before I even tried eating salad. This is a bit of tough love. If you want to heal you have to stick with a few safe foods for as long as it takes and not give in to your cravings for things. From my perspective no food is worth jeopardizing my hard won health.

Jean

Post by **tex** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:45 pm

Yes, Karen, raw vegetables are off limits for us until our digestive system has healed, and iceberg lettuce seems to be the worst of the lot. My experience was similar to Jean's. Lettuce always brought instant remorse if I made the mistake of eating any while I was recovering. After I had been in remission for about a year or so though, I could eat it (and other raw vegetables) again without any problems.

Tex

HappyBird · Post by **HappyBird** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:38 pm

I love salads and raw vegetables too!

I guess when summer comes round that's when I'll miss my salad again.

By that time I should be nearly a year into recovery. Yay!

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Hi Karen. I feel your pain. I am a fitness professional and salad was a big part of my diet. I missed them dearly while I was healing, but after about a year post weaning off of budesonide, I was able to eat small salads. Now ( 3 years later) I am back to my large meal size salads and am loving it. hang in there :)
Leah

crervin · Post by **crervin** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:07 pm

Leah, your post put a smile on my face! Thank you!

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:08 am

Same same, pre MC I lived on raw veges as snacks, and lots of salads etc.
it was big adjustment to follow the gut healing eating plan...

Thus far I have not been able to tolerate any lettuce, and things like tomato etc are a sometimes food for me.

Lcol · Post by **Lcol** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:08 pm

My story is similar. I ate RAW veggies and salads all day, every day thinking it was the healthiest thing for me. I was off gluten, but I hadn't found this forum, so I didn't realize the veggies were my problem. So....

I went on a vacation (Disney mid-summer- not stress free) over the summer, and suddenly have less symptoms! I was baffled!

THEN... I find this forum, realize I can't eat raw veggies, and it all comes together. I was on vacation so I didn't have my supply of veggies with me all day!

Moral of the story- This forum knows all.

Grahm · Post by **Grahm** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:02 am

I did not try them when first healing. I started eating salads probably 6 mths after being diagnosed. I continue to eat a salad most everyday without a problem.

Love,
Connie

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:16 am

Hi I'm talking from my mums point of view not mine , even when MC was settled lettuce would always be a big trigger for her, she loves salad but learned to avoid it. Seems strange that something so bland and inoffensive can be so bad.

mcardle3 · Post by **mcardle3** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:59 pm

I have been having trouble since I ate that salad, it is like the mush stools are back with a vengeance and I'm baffled by that.

Gluten free, eating most meals at home and when eating out it is typically meat and rice, no spice, or meat and corn tortilla's.

I'm getting discouraged. I fought hard for this entocort, am following the protocol as best as I can, and still this cramping and mush stools. Can one salad have done this?

Breakfast: Almond milk with rice chex
Lunch: Gluten free bread with turkey or chicken on it, baby food fruit for snack
Snack: Jello
Dinner: Lean meat and potato or rice (this would be lean beef, lean turkey, lean chicken only)

I sometimes make soup and cook or puree the veg using bone broth from whole foods. My bread is either millet or a non gluten blend.

Seriously...what the heck am I doing wrong?

Post by **tex** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:08 pm

Karen,

Yes, 1 salad could have done that, but there are other possibilities. Millet flour is sometimes cross-contaminated with gluten. And some of us have problems with other gluten-free breads because of various combinations of ingredients. Tapioca flour, for example is a problem for some of us.

Tex

mcardle3 · Post by **mcardle3** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:21 pm

tex wrote:Karen,

Yes, 1 salad could have done that, but there are other possibilities. Millet flour is sometimes cross-contaminated with gluten. And some of us have problems with other gluten-free breads because of various combinations of ingredients. Tapioca flour, for example is a problem for some of us.

Tex

I buy the millet bread from a store dedicated to gluten/dairy free baked goods. No More Bellyaching, run by a bunch of celiacs. Do you suppose it could be contaminated from the source of the flour?

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:31 pm

Based on what you are eating my observations;
I have found I can't have processed flour products every day. They are sometimes foods for me. Can you have more rice or veges instead?

The baby fruit thing and jello might have too much sugar...

Is the almond milk pure, no gums or other additives? Are you sure you are ok with almond??

Have you removed suspect bathroom and make up products from your routine??

What are you drinking? How much water are you having?

JFR · Post by **JFR** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:14 pm

I agree with Gabes about which foods might be causing problems. I eat no baked goods, no flour products. Better safe than sorry. You can try to add them back at a later date if you want to but you always have to be careful with products cooked outside the home with more than a few ingredients.

Sugar is a problem. You can probably predict what I am going to say. I eat nothing which contains sugar. Better safe than sorry. I don't eat any fruit in fact.

The only "milk" product I use is coconut milk and I make it myself from plain shredded coconut.

I tend to be a hard line fundamentalist when it comes to food but I'd rather that than never being able to leave the house.

My primary foods remain meat and veggies.

Jean