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Calcium & diet input requested

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Aloha - I have been looking at past postings for over 2 hours and have been learning a lot. I did multiple searches and did not find quite what I am looking for. I am wanting to have a vitamin and nutrient balanced diet as much as possible which is a trick on a restricted diet as you all know. I have been having some numbness in leg lower leg/foot that seems to be relieved by wearing my shoe inserts & I am concerned that I do not want to have bone loss/develop osteoarthritis. I have read about the importance of Vit D3 and Magnesium for proper absorption of calcium so I started those and am still titrating them up to 2-5k (at 2k)and 400-600 mg (just realized I'm at only 100 of spray and more on nights I do the Epsom salt foot bath) daily.

What about sources of calcium in food (and any vitamin/minerals/nutrients that may be of great concern). I am eating rice chex (1 cup) in AM, rice puffs at night, 2 cups daily of enriched original rice dream (30% RDA/cup), white rice or rice pasta, green mung bean vermicelli, 12 oz daily game meats (turkey, lamb. venison, duck, elk), 1-2 bananas, broccoli, green beans, carrots (all vegies cooked and 1/2 cup or so), celtic salt and adding duck fat or ghee to maintain/gain weight. I have been maintaining but would like to gain so I have more of a cushion (I am 141 at 5'9"). I have no D and miss a daily BM ('norma'l range) once every 2 wks. Feels like SIBO is almost gone. I am working with a naturopath and also taking a digestive aid, histDao, molybdenum, butyric acid and probiotics. Should I be concerned with adding more calcium and if so, how? I appreciate any input on whatever I have mentioned here. This support forum and the MC book Tex wrote have been a lifesaver!
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Hello Alohagirl..........

I'm exploring this myself at present, taking one step at a time. I'm going to keep an eye on this thread.

I recently decided to focus on magnesium and to this end bought Organic Cocoa Nibs, Cocoa Powder and Chia seeds to add to my Almond Milk - all three items are magnesium rich. I am concerned about low magnesium because magnesium supports three hundred different funtions in the body. I read somewhere that flouride in toothpaste strips magnesium from the body, even if in small amounts, I changed from using fluoride toothpaste to using Earthpaste which contains no fluoride at all. Every little change counts :grin:
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Aloha - thanks for your input. I did not know that about toothpaste so I will try that brand. I am going very slowly with adding foods but I will write down those magnesium rich foods to try as I am able.
LC, strong reaction to cola, squash and D & C Orange #4; moderate reaction to sugar cane, sulfite, sardine, flaxseed, coriander, black-eyed peas and FD & C Blue #1. Enterolab Anti-gliadin IgA 6 units.
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Alohagirl,

If you are in remission, then a balanced diet is possible, but if you are still recovering/reacting, malabsorption problems will likely disrupt your attempts to maintain a balanced diet, because it's impossible to know how severely your nutrient absorption might be affected, especially for the "B" vitamins, vitamin D, and magnesium.

As you may be aware, I have peripheral neuropathy that causes numbness/loss of feeling in my feet and lower legs. I blame it on gluten sensitivity and methylation problems causing me to run too low on vitamin B-12 and the active form of folate for too many years before it dawned on me that I needed to be taking supplements. I take a prescription combination of the active forms of vitamins B-12, B-9, and B-6 (known as Metanyx) to treat the condition.

Magnesium deficiency can also cause paresthesia/loss of feeling in the extremities.

I've never experienced a problem with too little calcium in my diet. I've found the opposite to be true. Virtually all diets contain more than enough calcium. But in the developed countries, most diets are deficient in vitamin D and magnesium. Adequate amounts of vitamin D and magnesium must be available, or the body cannot take the calcium out of the bloodstream and use it to make bone tissue.

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Thank you Tex. I will keep pursuing increasing the magnesium intake then and not worry about calcium supplements or searching to add more calcium foods. I had bought Vital Nutrients magnesium but I see that it has glycinate/malate so I guess the better brand might be the Doctors Best Brand. I bought all of those B vitamins that have been suggested and the naturopath suggested that I hold off for now. I will go that route though if the magnesium does not do the trick. Aloha nui loa!
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Tex.........

I have numb toes, not totally but the feeling is very reduced. I have had this for a number of years. I guess I could do with B group Vitamins too. :idea:

I now wish I hadn't stopped my supplements - things went downhill from there.
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Jen,

The peripheral neuropathy that we develop seems to be the same issue that some diabetics develop, and I'll bet a GF cookie that gluten sensitivity is connected with those cases, also. That's where Metanx was first prescribed, I believe (to treat peripheral neuropathy associated with diabetes).

I assume that you've already tried Epsom salt foot soaks, and they did not resolve the problem.

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Aloha - I have been experimenting with different magnesium supplements - spray, sublingual liquid, chelated tabs. I have just learned in scanning the support forum archives that it takes 6 mos to build up in the body. So much to learn and I am so grateful to have access to the wisdom and experience of so many people.

I became concerned last week with taking supplements in the AM. I just remembered that I had been told to not take vitamins within 4 hrs of my thyroid meds. I don't know if this includes minerals. Any input from anyone else who knows about or takes thyroid meds? Thanks and Happy New Year!
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Aloha,

Time wise for fixing deficiencies the following applies for minerals vitamins etc;

Mild deficiency 6-10weeks
Medium level deficiency 10-20weeks
Severely deficient 20- 30 weeks. (Or more)

Keep in mind, to fix a deficiency your daily intake needs to be well above your daily usage.

The daily RDI for normal person for magnesium is 400mg ELEMENTAL magnesium per day
For those with health issues, medications or other factors that deplete magnesium the RDI would be about 600-700mg ELEMENTAL magnesium per day...

##double check the small print on bottles regarding dosage as to how much Elemental magnesium (which is lower than the total mag the tablet contains) each dose is providing - and some products the dose can require multiple tablets.

If you are worried about the thyroid meds, maybe only use mag spray near those meads.
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Aloha - thanks for your rapid response and very helpful comments!
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FWIW, I take my Armour thyroid med about a half hour before breakfast (IOW, I take it and then go fry some bacon and eggs). After I finish eating breakfast I take all my other meds and supplements, including 300 mg magnesium. I take another 100 mg of magnesium at noon (after I eat) and another 100 mg just before bedtime.

IMO if a thyroid treatment can't be absorbed within about a half-hour (when taken on an empty stomach), it's not designed to be easily absorbed.

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Aloha - good to know what others are finding works well - thanks for your helpful input.
LC, strong reaction to cola, squash and D & C Orange #4; moderate reaction to sugar cane, sulfite, sardine, flaxseed, coriander, black-eyed peas and FD & C Blue #1. Enterolab Anti-gliadin IgA 6 units.
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