Magnesium And Pains

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:48 pm

Hi all,

In hindsight, I know that the first signs that something was wrong with my body, was the aching pains under my feet. I could no longer go for long walks. The pains made it impossible.

This was back in 2010. Stinging pains, that my doctor diagnozed as "plantar fascitis". However, as soon as I changed my diet, and started supplementing with among others magnesium and B-vitamins, the pain under my feet disappeared, and I forgot the whole problem.

Until now, when I ran out of magnesium because of the stupid ban on import of vitamins and minerals, and I was stubborn enough not to buy the low value and expensive magnesium available in Norwegian health stores.

After 6 weeks without my magnesium supplements, the pains under my feet started 1 week ago. Horrible pains... which woke me up during the night.

What I don't understand is that what I thought to be a solid "storage" of magnesium that I have built up these last 3 years, was depleted so quickly, in like 4 weeks.

And, another thing I have realized with this experience is: Even if my D disappeared one year ago, and even if I have felt great this last year, there must still be inflammation going on in my body, since I reacted so promptly to the lack of magnesium.

Lilia

TXBrenda · Post by **TXBrenda** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:45 pm

I am sorry you foot pain has returned. I have been dealing with pain from plantar fasciatis and heal spurs for many years myself. I guess you cannot purchase something like what is in the link below due to your country's ban. That must be frustrating.

http://www.drfitt.com/Magnesium-Gel_p_56.html

I do not purchase this brand but another brand that is available locally.

Take care and I hope this is resolved reasonably soon.

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:16 pm

Lilja,
Since correcting my magnesium deficiency (via taking 1000+mg elemental magnesium per day) 12 months later I have found that I still need 600-800mg elemental magnesium per day or symptoms start happening.

For whatever reason, my combo of health issues I am a big magnesium user, and will need to keep using the sprays all day every day...
I suspect in my case it is linked to pyrrole, methylation and my body struggling to clear toxins, toxicants, excess metals properly and need the high amounts of magnesium

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:13 pm

Incredible.....I guess I shouldn't be afraid to up my magnesium then. I've been hovering around 600 maybe all this time and I get weird aches in my femur and the bottom of the arch of a foot and all this time it is because of this healing process and how much magnesium we deplete on a daily basis. Some days I'm good and others when I have been more active I can feel the rise in a few more aches I hadn't noticed during my low key days.

I have been using sublingual B Complex liquid for a month now too.

Would having a 10oz cup of coffee every morning deplete magnesium....Could these strange aches mean the calcium isn't absorbing into the bones properly? I think these thoughts only because I haven't felt this type of deep ache in my previous years, only now that I have been working on this healing plan. Plus my estrogen lessening probably doesn't help while it's transitioning itself.

Lilia I sure hope your country gets itself corrected soon for the sake of its occupants health!

HappyBird · Post by **HappyBird** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:32 pm

Lilja wrote:
This was back in 2010. Stinging pains, that my doctor diagnozed as "plantar fascitis".

Strangely, I have been suffering with plantar fasciitis for the past month. I resorted to a night time splint, insoles and rest. Its very painful at times, that I can barely walk. I didn't suspect magnesium because i take it transdermally.

HappyBird · Post by **HappyBird** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:45 pm

Erica P-G wrote:Would having a 10oz cup of coffee every morning deplete magnesium....Could these strange aches mean the calcium isn't absorbing into the bones properly? I think these thoughts only because I haven't felt this type of deep ache in my previous years, only now that I have been working on this healing plan. Plus my estrogen lessening probably doesn't help while it's transitioning itself.

Coffee does leach the magnesium from our bodies - I rationed myself to two cups of coffee a day to stave off migrain headaches. Caffergot used as the the drug of choice to prevent migraine - Caffergot is caffeine, hence my coffee.

Fluoride toothpaste is another area I have changed - I now use Earth Paste instead if toothpaste with flouride. Flouride is another cuprit leaching out magnesium. I just believe if we can cut some of magnesium leaching products out it can only help.

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:25 am

Erica,

The arch, of course! The English word for it didn't come to my mind.

I'm convinced that the pain under our feet, and especially in the arch, is due to the MC and we know that inflammation depletes our bodies of magnesium, so I don't think we have plantar fascitis. The aches would point at plantar fascitis, and the doctors will call it plantar fascitis. I think the pains are merely a sign of lack of especially magnesium, and maybe also B-vitamins.

The ban has been abolished, and I got my magnesium from iHerb yesterday, so I'm taking lots of magnesium now.

I will never run out of magnesium anymore...

Lilia

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:35 am

Gabes-Apg wrote: I suspect in my case it is linked to pyrrole, methylation and my body struggling to clear toxins, toxicants, excess metals properly and need the high amounts of magnesium

Gabes,

I had all sorts of tests done back in 2013, and my kryptopyrrole (as they call it here) was 9,2 and it should be <10. So, maybe I haven't corrected the pyrolle issue yet?

I take B12, B9, B6, D3, vitamin C, L-Methionine, Niacin, Q10, and a lot of zink and magnesium. Are there other supplements I should take in addition to these, to correct the pyrrole issue?

Lilia

koksvik · Post by **koksvik** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:29 am

The ban has been abolished, and I got my magnesium from iHerb yesterday, so I'm taking lots of magnesium now.

I will never run out of magnesium anymore...

Lilia

Lots sounds a little ominous. The maximum dose is considered to be 1000mg per day but it is important to balance it correctly with Calcium. I can recommend a book by Patrick Holford: The Optimum Nutrition Bible. That gives you excellent information on what you should take in the way of vitamins and minerals.

Rolf

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:38 pm

koksvik wrote:
The ban has been abolished, and I got my magnesium from iHerb yesterday, so I'm taking lots of magnesium now.

I will never run out of magnesium anymore...

Lilia
Lots sounds a little ominous. The maximum dose is considered to be 1000mg per day but it is important to balance it correctly with Calcium. I can recommend a book by Patrick Holford: The Optimum Nutrition Bible. That gives you excellent information on what you should take in the way of vitamins and minerals.

Rolf

Don't worry :-) I take 800 mg of magnesium. Calcium? Do you mean K2? Because that is said to be the best supplement together with magnesium and vitamin D3:

http://nhi.no/forside/kroppen-trenger-m ... 45654.html

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... efits.aspx

Med ønske om en god adventstid!

Lilia

Blueberry · Post by **Blueberry** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:57 pm

I'm not the best at taking magnesium as all the forms I've tried have tended to upset the gut to some extent. What I've done is eaten foods rich in magnesium mainly, in particular eating green leafy vegetables and a newer addition being nuts/cashews.

I've tried many different diet ideas to help heal the gut with some good success, but have found it difficult to increase energy levels and reduce muscle pains. On rare occasions I've experienced wild, huge amounts of energy and no pains, along with a tame gut but haven't figured out a diet or reason why that has happened.

Well, of late I've begun avoiding pork. I've known for awhile that pork causes my gums to bleed and be overly sore. Some reaction is going on, that has been noticed by my dentist. I've also found regular gelatin, which is made from pork and beef bones and hides, and used to make capsules, to cause muscle cramping/charlie horses. My heart also will race when eating regular gelatin, it seems. Hard to pin that one down for sure though as an upset gut will do similar to my heart.

Well, the rare crazy energy struck today, and I worked out yesterday in my home gym! A workout is typically a sure thing for causing great amounts of muscle pain, and fatigue the next day or two. Fingers crossed that this good feeling sticks around. I'm guessing the good energy is coming from a combination of the diet change, avoiding pork, and eating magnesium rich cashews. Oh, I have to be careful amount the amounts of nuts eaten, as those will cause tiredness and an upset gut. So many rule to follow! It can be complicated having MC.

Who knows what is going on Lilja, but possibly you have an undiscovered food allergen that is causing your body to use up magnesium at a quick rate.

Post by **tex** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:27 pm

Don't forget that exercise increases energy.

Tex

Blueberry · Post by **Blueberry** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:02 am

Oh, I've heard that mentioned for some people, that exercise can give a workout high and energy boost. For me I've known for awhile that exercise really wares me out terribly - most of the time. In particular I would experience delayed muscle pain, where I would ache the next two days and be wiped out with zero energy. What was odd though is sometimes I would not experience the delayed workout pain and fatigue. Instead I would experience good energy and mild muscle aches. I'm thinking it might be the pork that has been causing the problems for me, in the difference between what I've seen with the two. I found in my food journal note on this, as the last time I experienced the crazy energy increase was in January of last year. (There is more to the notes which makes it confusing.) I will see how this falls out as time will tell, but it has been nice to not experience the typical muscle pains and tiredness after exercise. I guess too, to add to the confusion I ate to many nuts earlier in the week and that increased fiber appears to have hurt my energy levels, but didn't cause the muscles to not hurt after working out.

I cut back on the nuts from eating them with each meal, to one meal and that appears to have helped. Anyway, it had me thinking possibly for the OP there could be another missing food issue yet to be discovered.

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:12 am

Blueberry wrote:I'm not the best at taking magnesium as all the forms I've tried have tended to upset the gut to some extent. What I've done is eaten foods rich in magnesium mainly, in particular eating green leafy vegetables and a newer addition being nuts/cashews.

Blueberry,

Have you tried this magnesium? It doesn't upset my stomach and is gluten free:

http://no.iherb.com/Doctor-s-Best-Magne ... Tablets/15

Lilia

Blueberry · Post by **Blueberry** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:33 am

Thanks Lilja. I have not tried that brand of magnesium before, but might have tried the type of magnesium at some point. I went through a number of different types experimenting a number of years ago and never had all that good of success. Rather humorously a homemade magnesium oxide laxative water might have been the least gut disturbing that I experimented with. It was where I would take a tablespoon of Phillips Milk of Magnesia and mix it into a liter of water. I guess though that is the least absorbable form of magnesium.

I never have tried the magnesium lotion though as written on the sight and have thought of giving that a trial at some point.

It's another day of not feeling muscle fatigue, and since adjusting my nut fiber intake energy levels are nice. Had a morning gym workout so hoping I'm not overly fatigued and tired by this evening. The way I feel now I suspect I will not be.

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