My colitis journey. Phase 2.

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Hi Rolf,

You have kindly provided us with a view of the world according to Rolf Koksvik, and for that we are grateful. But maybe it would be helpful if I review the reasons for the existence of this discussion and support board. This website was originally created because we were sick and tired of being sick and tired, and our doctors were unable to help us. We found that by sharing experiences and comparing notes we could help each other to find the solutions that we needed. This forum has been operating continuously for over 10 years now, and in that time many thousands of people all over the world have managed to snatch their life back from the hopeless feeling enveloped them before they discovered this website. Note that they were in that hopeless situation because they were unable to get the information they needed from the medical community.

So with a 10-year success record, I never cease to be amazed at how so many new members come here for help, and yet they actually believe that they know more about treating MC than everyone else here. And while they pretend to accept what we suggest to them, in their heart, they still doubt everything we say, for the reasons you cited:
Rolf wrote:I have never in my life had a problem with my digestive system until this MC issue turned up 4 months ago. I have never had any allergies. I have never had any food intolerances. I have my own theory about what caused this and I am going to test it whatever doomsday scenario you throw at me.
I believe I understand why so many new members feel this way. First of all, they still trust their doctors, despite what they say about being disillusioned about them. But guess what? Most everyone here also trusts their doctors — we just don't trust them to treat our MC. And secondly, most of us here are overachievers — it's almost a prerequisite to the development of MC. In fact, if someone has MC and they are not an overachiever, they are probably one of the unluckiest people in the world, because the odds show that they should never have developed the disease. So sure, we're doubters, we understand the value of self-confidence and self-reliance, and we're used to doing it our way.

But as Bearcat so eloquently pointed out, "the medical community knows little, if nothing, about microscopic colitis". And that is precisely why clinging to the false hope that a physician who recommends a gluten challenge might actually know how to treat MC, is an exercises in futility.

So that's why we seem to repeat our recommendations excessively, because quite frankly, a lot of newbies don't want to believe what we say. They don't want to have to make the lifestyle changes that we have made in order to resolve our symptoms. They want to resolve their problems their own way — the way that they have always solved their problems. The trouble with that attitude is that their way doesn't work for treating MC. If their way had any merit, then why would they come here searching for help?

So please be aware that the reason why Gabes, Bearcat, Louis, Lilja, and others have reached out to you, is out of love, compassion, and a sincere desire to save you from having to go through months or years of unnecessary suffering, as so many of us have done. The bottom line is, you are certainly free to approach the problem any way you choose, and if you prefer to punish yourself for a few more months or even another year or so, that is your right, and we will support you in that choice. We all are short of time, and we all have better things to do than to waste that precious time trying to make your life miserable. That certainly was not our intent. We thought that we were trying to help you to save some time and unnecessary suffering in your recovery program. Were we wrong to try to do that?

Incidentally, Jean is quite correct that your rude post to Gabes was totally inappropriate. Another post that contains remarks similar to that one will get you banned from this board.

Tex
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The world according to Wayne Persky could be just as wrong as any other world view. And to write off the whole of the medical profession as a bunch of misguided sheep is actually rather far fetched.
Rolf,
I found your whole post rather disrespectful but in particular what you said to Gabes and the above quote to Tex, who are both on here all the time, giving of themselves to help those of us newbies who are trying to figure all of this out. So, to Gabes and Tex and the rest of you who are always here when questions pop up or to lend a sympathetic ear when things are not just right, a huge thank you from someone who appreciates all of you very much. I don't know what I'd have done if I hadn't found this board. I know that I wouldn't be nearly as far along in my healing. I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to go back to work and everyone told me I would be. I was, and I haven't missed one day this semester due to being sick or not feeling good. You guys are the best! Life is too short. We can agree to disagree, but let's not call names and say rude things! Everyone on here means well, and we are all different. I don't understand how one person can eat one thing and another person can't, but it is what it is, and it's how we are made up! But, we can learn from each other! Stepping off my soapbox now.
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Jari,

I want to apologize. I used inappropriate language and I shall try to avoid making the same mistake again.

My frustration level got too high I am afraid. It is this constant repetition of how debilitating colitis is that I find tiresome. I understand that most of you have had, and have, a miserable time with MC, but I can live with it and that is what I have been trying to tell you since my first post. I am given the feeling that somehow I am a traitor to the cause for going my own way and I miss the spirit of your teaching that everyone is different. Even if my way fails I have not lost anything as I can handle the situation as it is. Please accept that I am intelligent enough to understand the consequences of my actions and let me handle my own body my way.

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Post by dfpowell »

Rolf,

Good luck with your trial. I think many of us try reintroducing foods once we are healed enough to see if we tolerate them. For various reasons the majority of us remain gluten free.
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For what its worth.....

If I did not find this discussion board I would be stuck in a fate I would wish on no one.
Also, my mind was so out of sorts that I needed Tex and others to constantly repeat what they had already said a thousand and one times before. I too never had any digestive troubles or intolerances to foods.

Also my fourth grandfather was Mark Twain. :lol:
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I wish you luck!

Post by Alchemy1 »

Rolf,

I have collagenous colitis and have suffered with symptoms since 2007...although I was not properly diagnosed until 2010. They performed the blood test, for gluten sensitivity on me, and it came back negative. I believe that this is the case with many of us who have MC. In my research, I've found many articles on how the blood test is not an effective diagnostic tool, for gluten sensitivity, when you have microscopic colitis. I too have given up coffee (it makes me sicker than a dog) alcohol (no wine with dinner for me) and many of what used to be my staple foods such as raw veggies and fruits, salads, beans (including hummus) Italian food with red sauce and, just recently, Mexican food. Since I live in the Southwest, and authentic Mexican food is everywhere, that was a hard one for me. I also love the stuff and could eat it everyday if my guts would cooperate! I'm still sick despite all of my dietary restrictions and have decided to get the fecal testing done so I don't have to play the guessing game anymore.

I'd really like to hear how your testing and treatment goes. If they find gluten sensitivity, via the blood test, I'd be very interested to hear about it. It does sound like you found a good GI doctor who is more open-minded than most I've run across. I've been to three different doctors and all they want to do is throw pills at me...and it's NOT working!

I also intend to enjoy my holiday feasting, and wine with dinner, on Christmas Day! I know I'll be ill from eating whatever I want, but what's Christmas without baked goods, a big feast to celebrate and an excellent glass of wine to chase it all down?

I wish you the best of luck with your treatment and please keep us posted on your progress!
Kim "The Outhouse Polka Queen"

Raynaud's Disease, 1982
Thyroid Disease, 2007
Collagenous Colitis, 2010
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