Vitamin D3

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:08 pm

Strange question. I've been taking vitamin D3 5000iu for two months now. This is a rather high dose. Usually people are given this level of dosing for a fixed period of a month . Do you think it is ok to carry on at this level or should I reduce the dosing . Only reason I asked was because someone said to me the livers responsible for processing Vit D and was wondering the possibility that mine may have had enough ( I'm possibly being stupid which is why I thought I'd ask).

Also I've requested a copy of the histology report from my endoscopy / colonoscopy. If granted I should have a copy within the next 48hrs . I hope someone here will interpret it for me. Thanks Jim

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:26 pm

Using the search function I found this recent post that will answer your question

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... hlight=vit

the average person uses approximately 5,000 IU of vitamin D each day (according to the Vitamin D Council), so most of us need to take about that much (or more) in order to boost our vitamin D level enough to get it up to a safe level within a reasonable amount of time. The longer it takes to get our vitamin D level to a good place, the longer we are exposed to an increased risk of developing one or more AI diseases.

it can take 8-16 weeks to fix deficiencies. Longer if you are severely deficient.
your 5000iu per day is like the 'minimum' one would require. Someone with inflammation will be using more than this.

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:53 pm

Hi Gabes I must have a short memory because I even posted on that thread. It sounds like 5000iu is not that excessive. Only thing that made me think it was excessive was a young guy I work with was diagnosed Defficient and was given 40,000 iu to take once a week for a month a think

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:09 pm

Firstly, there are two forms of Vit d,
D2, and d3.

Govt health systems will subsididse the provision of high dose Vit d2, as a once a week dose. What our research has shown is that the body does not benefit from this as it is not able to convert the d2 into useable d3. And if you read other recent posts about Vit d3 tex discusses this. (Tex has also written a book about Vit d3).

Also as we have frequently discussed here, the body needs magnesium to use the Vit d3 properly.

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:49 pm

Thank you Gabes for the information. I'll carry on with the same amount . While I'm at it do you have a recommended B12 dose . I'm take 1200micro grams daily which actually helped me a lot. However more recently I've started to feel fatigued again and wondered if I'm taking a good dose. Thanks Jim

Post by **tex** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:37 pm

Jim,

5,000 IU is the amount of vitamin D3 used by the average human in a day, according to the Vitamin D Council. They recommend it as a minimum dose for an average individual, for the rest of their life.

Why does the Vitamin D Council recommend 5,000 IU/day?

So that's definitely not a high dose.

Tex

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:14 pm

Jim,
In line with the info in the post and Tex's comments, 5000iu per day is what we are using each day
If you are deficient in Vit D3, the 5000iu intake per day is not correcting deficiency etc
Or if there is ongoing inflammation you would need more.

If you want to help anxiety symptoms, you could take doses of 7000iu per day for a few weeks.

Marcia K · Post by **Marcia K** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:39 pm

After reading about D-3 on here I started to take 5,000 IU per day. It stopped my hair from falling out and I have my wavy hair back. It had been looking dry and brittle.

Post by **tex** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:31 pm

Great! I learn something new here every day.

Thanks for sharing that information.

Tex

Lilja · Post by **Lilja** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:21 am

Jimbo1968 wrote:Thank you Gabes for the information. I'll carry on with the same amount . While I'm at it do you have a recommended B12 dose . I'm take 1200micro grams daily which actually helped me a lot. However more recently I've started to feel fatigued again and wondered if I'm taking a good dose. Thanks Jim

Hi Jim,

I have been taking 2x1000 mcg B-12 sublinguals for one year now to correct a deficiency, together with a B-Complex tablet.

Honestly I don't know how much you need, that depends on how deficient you were, but apparently there is no risk involved in high dozes.

I hope Tex or Gabes can fill me in, or correct me.

Lilia

Post by **tex** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:01 am

Lilia,

I agree with you. I also take 2,000 mcg every day.

Tex

Jimbo1968 · Post by **Jimbo1968** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:29 am

Thank you all I will leave the dosage as it is right now and see now. As a matter of interest my doctor has never said I'm D3 Defficient from any blood test I've done prior to commencement , yet my skin definitely benefited from taking them. Does everyone else bloods show their deficiency or are you all going on suspicion too

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:38 am

I have my levels checked every 6 months.

Post by **tex** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:06 am

Jim,

The recommended daily allowance (RDA) officially promoted for vitamin D by most government-affiliated health organizations (such as the National Institutes of Health here in the U. S.) are so low that they are actually only adequate for preventing rickets. Apparently the official guidelines promoted by the "establishment" for vitamin D daily allowances were developed back in the days when rickets was a major health issue, so the goal was to eliminate rickets, and they apparently see no reason to change their original goal. If we want to prevent other diseases though, we have to take much more vitamin D than the official recommendations. You can download or view a PDF of a chart that shows how high our blood level of vitamin D needs to be in order to prevent various diseases at the link below:

http://www.grassrootshealth.net/media/d ... 032310.pdf

The chart uses ng/ml units, which is used in the U. S. I believe that international units are used in GB, so to get nmol/L you would need to multiply the numbers shown in that chart by 2.5.

IOW, looking at the chart, it says that in order to prevent 77 % of all cancers you would need a vitamin D blood level 0f 38 ng/ml or higher. Multiplying that by 2.5 gives 95 nmol/L in international units.

For another example, the chart shows that a vitamin D blood level of 36 ng/ml will prevent approximately 25 % of cases of type 1 daibetes. That would be equivalent to 90 nmol/L in internationl units. But the chart also shows that if we boost our vitamin D level to 52 ng/ml we an prevent 66 % of type 1 diabetes cases. In international units that would be equivalent to 130 nmol/L.

And if you look at the chart, the official National Institutes of Health guidelines say that 20 ng/ml (50 nmol/L) is an adequate blood level for vitamin D. Why do they say that? Because it will prevent 99 % of rickets cases.

But unfortunately it won't prevent anything else. That's why we need to take more vitamin D than our governments and "official" medical organizations recommend, if we want to try to prevent the development of any other diseases besides rickets. Our government/medical policies on vitamin D are still stuck in the dark ages.

Tex

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:29 pm

My Vit D3 was at 43 (USA standard) and I haven't tested it again yet....I'm going under the assumption that 5000mg isn't going to hurt me one bit, and taking it with Magnesium I'm hoping the two combo is what's healing me at a gradual pace.