Problem Foods Listed By Various Members
Moderators: Rosie, JFR, Dee, xet, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh, mbeezie, TooManyHats
Problem Foods Listed By Various Members
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
-
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:55 pm
Help! Enterolab results!
Hi All,
I got my lab results back--NOW WHAT! Was diagnosed with Collagenous Colitis in August-tend to have the Constipation issues and since insurance won't cover meds am using miralax. Diet has been a nightmare-so thanks to Wayne Persky, his book and this support group I found Enterolab. Have results (below)-now what? If anyone has had similar results and can tell me where to start I would appreciate any and all suggestions! I have been off gluten for several months and dairy. I don't eat raw veggies and fruit or spicy items. Of course I have been eating almond butter, chicken and rice-now no-nos! Do I go Paleo?
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 504 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 102 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 26 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 68 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 37 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
www.enterolab.com

Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: none
Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): none
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Corn Oat Rice Chicken Tuna Beef Pork Walnut Cashew White potato
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+): almond
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Tuna
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Beef
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Pork
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
Am open to all helpful suggestions as the Doctors in and around Asheville, NC, are clueless about this disease.
Thank you and bless you, Barbara
I got my lab results back--NOW WHAT! Was diagnosed with Collagenous Colitis in August-tend to have the Constipation issues and since insurance won't cover meds am using miralax. Diet has been a nightmare-so thanks to Wayne Persky, his book and this support group I found Enterolab. Have results (below)-now what? If anyone has had similar results and can tell me where to start I would appreciate any and all suggestions! I have been off gluten for several months and dairy. I don't eat raw veggies and fruit or spicy items. Of course I have been eating almond butter, chicken and rice-now no-nos! Do I go Paleo?
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 504 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 102 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 26 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 68 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 37 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
www.enterolab.com

Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: none
Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): none
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Corn Oat Rice Chicken Tuna Beef Pork Walnut Cashew White potato
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+): almond
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Tuna
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Beef
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Pork
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
Am open to all helpful suggestions as the Doctors in and around Asheville, NC, are clueless about this disease.
Thank you and bless you, Barbara
BARB
- Gabes-Apg
- Emperor Penguin
- Posts: 8330
- Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:12 pm
- Location: Hunter Valley NSW Australia
Barb
the high values are an indicator of high levels of inflammation,
have you been taking Vit D3 and magnesium?
my suggestion is to stick to a bland diet of Rice, Pork, (maybe other game meats if they are available in your area) and 1-2 vegetables Sweet potato, or Carrot, or Corgette.
all peeled and well cooked (the rice is your safest grain)
the main aim is to get the inflammation levels down so you are not so reactive to foods.
soy and gluten can be in shampoos, make up, lipsticks, moisterising products (anything with Vit E will have soy)
Are you sharing a kitchen with others? do you have new cookware and utensils? I would be diligent about avoiding cross contamination from cookware, chopping boards, utensils, etc.
There are many with this type of result - it is a shock at first, but once you remove major triggers, fix major nutrient deficiencies, follow low inflammation gut healing eating plan, things will improve....
Other peoples test results are located here: http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=56
Hope this helps
the high values are an indicator of high levels of inflammation,
have you been taking Vit D3 and magnesium?
my suggestion is to stick to a bland diet of Rice, Pork, (maybe other game meats if they are available in your area) and 1-2 vegetables Sweet potato, or Carrot, or Corgette.
all peeled and well cooked (the rice is your safest grain)
the main aim is to get the inflammation levels down so you are not so reactive to foods.
With your soy result, and the high numbers you need to check every aspect of your house/workplace etc and avoid all gluten, dairy, soy, egg products.have been off gluten for several months and dairy.
soy and gluten can be in shampoos, make up, lipsticks, moisterising products (anything with Vit E will have soy)
Are you sharing a kitchen with others? do you have new cookware and utensils? I would be diligent about avoiding cross contamination from cookware, chopping boards, utensils, etc.
There are many with this type of result - it is a shock at first, but once you remove major triggers, fix major nutrient deficiencies, follow low inflammation gut healing eating plan, things will improve....
Other peoples test results are located here: http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=56
Hope this helps
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Hi Barbara,
Welcome to our Internet family. As Gabes said, those are tough results, but many others here have similar lists of food sensitivities. It might be helpful to download the Diet Guidelines at the link below, to get some other tips and food substitution suggestions. For example, rather than pork, I would choose turkey or lamb, because so far virtually none of us here seem to react to those 2 options. Most wild game meats are also safe, and that includes domestic ducks and geese and rabbits, for example.
http://www.microscopiccolitisfoundation ... loads.html
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
Welcome to our Internet family. As Gabes said, those are tough results, but many others here have similar lists of food sensitivities. It might be helpful to download the Diet Guidelines at the link below, to get some other tips and food substitution suggestions. For example, rather than pork, I would choose turkey or lamb, because so far virtually none of us here seem to react to those 2 options. Most wild game meats are also safe, and that includes domestic ducks and geese and rabbits, for example.
http://www.microscopiccolitisfoundation ... loads.html
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
-
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:55 pm
Tex and Gabes,
You both have been most helpful - I just got an e-mail from Enterolab stating: "Considering that your gluten sensitivity stool test value was abnormally high, there is a greater possibility that you may have intestinal malabsorption, which can be caused by gluten sensitivity. It is particularly important to establish the fecal fat value at the outset of testing and treatment in case any future testing requires comparison to baseline values, and to be sure that if it is high now, that it becomes normal in the future (usually determined about one year later).
We at EnteroLab would like to offer you the opportunity to order the intestinal fat malabsorption stool test at a special discounted price of $89.00 (the normal price is $129.00) to determine whether small intestinal malabsorption may be present at this time. If present and untreated, this can cause on-going mineral, vitamin, and other nutrient malabsorption which can lead to osteoporosis and other nutritional deficiency syndromes.
If you act now, this test will not require you to collect another stool specimen as we still have the specimen you recently submitted, but this specimen will be discarded in 4 days."
Do you recommend acting on this? I already have osteopenia. In October I had a parathyroid gland removed. I have hypothyroidism and gerd. I am on medications for hypothyroidism, depression, and migraines. I take 5000 IUs of D3 and will start taking magnesium.
Is Olive Oil ok for me to use? It has vitamin E and Gabes mentioned to avoid Vitamin E?
Thanks,
Barbara
You both have been most helpful - I just got an e-mail from Enterolab stating: "Considering that your gluten sensitivity stool test value was abnormally high, there is a greater possibility that you may have intestinal malabsorption, which can be caused by gluten sensitivity. It is particularly important to establish the fecal fat value at the outset of testing and treatment in case any future testing requires comparison to baseline values, and to be sure that if it is high now, that it becomes normal in the future (usually determined about one year later).
We at EnteroLab would like to offer you the opportunity to order the intestinal fat malabsorption stool test at a special discounted price of $89.00 (the normal price is $129.00) to determine whether small intestinal malabsorption may be present at this time. If present and untreated, this can cause on-going mineral, vitamin, and other nutrient malabsorption which can lead to osteoporosis and other nutritional deficiency syndromes.
If you act now, this test will not require you to collect another stool specimen as we still have the specimen you recently submitted, but this specimen will be discarded in 4 days."
Do you recommend acting on this? I already have osteopenia. In October I had a parathyroid gland removed. I have hypothyroidism and gerd. I am on medications for hypothyroidism, depression, and migraines. I take 5000 IUs of D3 and will start taking magnesium.
Is Olive Oil ok for me to use? It has vitamin E and Gabes mentioned to avoid Vitamin E?
Thanks,
Barbara
BARB
- Gabes-Apg
- Emperor Penguin
- Posts: 8330
- Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:12 pm
- Location: Hunter Valley NSW Australia
Olive oil is high risk for soyIs Olive Oil ok for me to use? It has vitamin E and Gabes mentioned to avoid Vitamin E?
your best option is to use Coconut oil -
I use it for cooking and as my face and body moisteriser!
(different containers of course)
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Yes I do. I had that test and it was most helpful. And it's a genuine bargain at that price. Your relatively high antibody results for gluten and casein suggest that you have been reacting to those 2 for a long time, meaning that you may have accrued a lot of small intestinal damage from gluten by now. The test result won't give you an exact percentage of damage, but it can tell you whether the damage is minor, moderate, or severe, and that information can be very useful for making decisions about supplements. If the test result is very high it would suggest that with that level of damage you may also have celiac disease, (rather than non-celiac gluten sensitivity).Barbara wrote:Do you recommend acting on this?
If you choose to use olive oil, California-grown olive oil is safest, because it's pure. A high percentage of imported olive oil is adultrated with soy oil and other oils, and because of that it's risky for many of us to use it. As Gabes pointed out, coconut oil is another option, and it's safe for almost all of us.
The depression and migraines should slowly fade away after you get your magnesium reserves back up to where they should be.
You're very welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
-
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:55 pm
That's a tough question because if we overdo oral magnesium supplements it can turn into a laxative. Avoid magnesium oxide. Magnesium citrate is usually OK in doses of up to around 300 mg. Chelated magnesium (magnesium glycinate) seems to be the safest form, but it's also the most expensive. I take 200 mg of magnesium citrate and 300 mg of magnesium glycinate daily, scattered throughout the day after meals. It get rid of a magnesium deficiency sooner, it helps to use magnesium oil or lotion applied to the skin, or Epsom salts foot soaks, or adding Epsom salts to bathwater. Topically-applied magnesium cannot act as a laxative.
Yes, coconut milk should be safe for almost anyone.
It would seem that a nutritionist's advice would be helpful, but unfortunately everyone here who has hired a dietitian or nutritionist has been disappointed because virtually none of them understand MC. The advice they offer for IBDs is based on Crohn's or UC, and it simply will not work for MC. If you happen to be located in San Francisco, we have a member there who is a nutritionist, so she understands the disease.
Nutrition is sort of irrelevant anyway until we reach remission, because until our digestive system heals enough that we are able to do a better job of digesting foods, much of our nutrition is lost anyway, and there's no way to know how much or which nutrients are lost. It's more practical to just do whatever is necessary to stop the inflammation and allow our digestive system to begin to heal, and then the nutrition problem will usually resolve itself.
Tex
Yes, coconut milk should be safe for almost anyone.
It would seem that a nutritionist's advice would be helpful, but unfortunately everyone here who has hired a dietitian or nutritionist has been disappointed because virtually none of them understand MC. The advice they offer for IBDs is based on Crohn's or UC, and it simply will not work for MC. If you happen to be located in San Francisco, we have a member there who is a nutritionist, so she understands the disease.
Nutrition is sort of irrelevant anyway until we reach remission, because until our digestive system heals enough that we are able to do a better job of digesting foods, much of our nutrition is lost anyway, and there's no way to know how much or which nutrients are lost. It's more practical to just do whatever is necessary to stop the inflammation and allow our digestive system to begin to heal, and then the nutrition problem will usually resolve itself.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
-
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:55 pm
Hi Tex---I'm back --more results and questions! Enterolab results from Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score TEST = 557 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units) So, yes,,, I have accrued a lot of small intestinal damage as well. I am thankful for you advice to get the test as it gives a better ideas of what I am dealing with.
Does anyone know anything about the GAPS diet program - Gut and Psychology Syndrome ?
Thanks and Blessings,
Does anyone know anything about the GAPS diet program - Gut and Psychology Syndrome ?
Thanks and Blessings,
BARB
Hi Barb,
Yes, that confirms a lot of small intestinal damage, so healing will take a while. I'm not very familiar with the GAPS diet, mostly because virtually no one here has ever had any real success using any of the specialized diets that are widely promoted as "healing" diets.
We find that we are much more likely to be able to achieve remission, and do it in the least amount of time, if we simply avoid the foods that cause our immune system to produce antibodies, minimize fiber and sugar in our diet, and stick to a simple, bland diet of safe foods long enough to allow our gut to recover from all the damage. We use our EnteroLab test results as a guide to help us in selecting safe foods for our recovery diet. Those who try to make their diet more complicated than this typically have a lot of problems achieving remission. In general, the simpler our diet, the faster we are able to recover.
Tex
Yes, that confirms a lot of small intestinal damage, so healing will take a while. I'm not very familiar with the GAPS diet, mostly because virtually no one here has ever had any real success using any of the specialized diets that are widely promoted as "healing" diets.
We find that we are much more likely to be able to achieve remission, and do it in the least amount of time, if we simply avoid the foods that cause our immune system to produce antibodies, minimize fiber and sugar in our diet, and stick to a simple, bland diet of safe foods long enough to allow our gut to recover from all the damage. We use our EnteroLab test results as a guide to help us in selecting safe foods for our recovery diet. Those who try to make their diet more complicated than this typically have a lot of problems achieving remission. In general, the simpler our diet, the faster we are able to recover.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.