Need advice on "safe" brands of Vit D and B12

christinafriberg · Post by **christinafriberg** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:37 pm

Because I react to gluten, corn, rice, soy, dairy, egg I'm having a very difficult time finding safe supplements Many also have palm oil. Any suggestions for safe brands?

Thanks-Christina

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:00 pm

if you want to avoid soy, then the product may have palm oil.

now foods have a Vit D3 liquid that has coconut oil/palm oil mix
http://au.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Liquid-Vi ... 0-ml/47291

What type of B12 are you looking for? there are different forms.

christinafriberg · Post by **christinafriberg** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:36 pm

Thanks Gabes. I'm trying to conscientiously follow the recommendations for supplements from the website and Wayne's book. I'm wondering is palm oil considered okay or is it a matter of choosing the lesser of
two evils, soy or palm oil. I don't recall seeing any thing on the website about palm oil but Wayne cautions about it in his book.

jlbattin · Post by **jlbattin** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:16 pm

I use the following vitamin D3 with no problems..........

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FX ... ge_o02_s02

Here's what it says:

Other Ingredients: Kosher vegetable capsules, vegetable cellulose, vegetable magnesium stearate.

Free of milk, egg, fish, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, peanuts, wheat and soybeans.

Also free of yeast, gluten, barley, rice, sodium and sugar.

Post by **tex** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:28 pm

Christina,

Remember that my remarks about palm oil in the book are strictly my opinion based on the evidence (and all the lawsuits) that Accutane and similar products that used the ingredient isotretinoin can cause the development of an IBD. Isotretinoin is not the same as retinyl palmitate, but it is very, very similar. I'm not aware that this has ever been proven by dedicated medical research, it's based mostly on epidemiological evidence. Still, I stand by my opinion that retinyl palmitate may be a risky ingredient for anyone who has MC.

So on that basis I would have to agree that a choice between those two options may boil down to choosing the lesser of two evils, as you suggested. On one hand, the "experts" claim that soy oil is safe for anyone who is sensitive to soy protein, but many of us know by experience that we react to soy oil. And regarding palm oil, the problem is that we don't know if all of the users of products that contain isetretinoin who developed an IBD used massive amounts of the product, of if only relatively small amounts can trigger an IBD. For all we know, only people who have certain genetics might be susceptible to the development of an IBD after exposure. There are many unknowns.

Here is where I posted about it on the board:

My Thoughts On Vitamin A

Research has also shown that in combination with sunlight, retinyl palmitate applied to the skin can become a carcinogen.

Retinol and Retinol Compounds

Photocarcinogenesis study of retinoic acid and retinyl palmitate

Tex

christinafriberg · Post by **christinafriberg** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:54 am

Gabes and Jari thank you both for your replies. I'll check out both products.

Tex, as always lots of new information to take it. I've used retinol cream periodically in the past, a nod to vanity I'm afraid. Many thanks for the "crash course" in MC.

This website is truly a lifeline for me. All the support provide to me and others helps keep me grounded and moving forward.

Christina

Adelaide · Post by **Adelaide** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:23 pm

Tex, I have a product that I was previously using but am not taking now. I thought at some point I may go back to using it as my doctor said it would be good for me. It is Metagenics Glutagenics. I know you have a product of that name in the US but the product they have here in Australia has a few extra ingredients including Retinyl palmitate. The dose that the doctor said to take has 687 micrograms of Retinyl palmitate. The product is L. Glutamine with a few other ingredients that are meant to soothe, protect and promote a healthy gastrointestinal lining. Does this mean that it is not wise to take this when we have MC?

Post by **tex** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:37 pm

Hi Linda,

That's a tough question since we don't even know for sure that it's a proven problem for MC patients, nor how much would be required to increase the risk if it is indeed a risk. 687 micrograms is a relatively low dose though, so if I were in your situation and I wanted to use that product I would probably go ahead and use it and not worry about the retinyl palmitate. After all, retinyl palmitate is widely used as a vitamin A supplement and so far no one has pointed any accusatory fingers at it and claimed that it caused them to develop an IBD. At least I haven't heard of that happening.

Tex

Adelaide · Post by **Adelaide** » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:37 pm

Thank you so much Tex! I really appreciate that you share all the knowledge and wisdom that you have gained through the years