EnteroLab returned my results back very quickly, so now the real work begins. I just thought I had a handle on this, but noooooooo! I was surprised by eggs, corn, rice, beef, and chicken. All of them have been my "go-to" food for the past few weeks. So I guess my question is, what do I do now?? The lab did say not to quit eating everything all at once, but I want to tackle this the best way possible. I have gone GF and DF and trying to get SF (it keeps showing up in unexpected places) for about 2 weeks now. Taking D3 and spray magnesium daily. Have been on 3mg of budesonide daily since 3/29/16. Any suggestions on the next step I should take would be much appreciated.
Thanks to all!
Comprehensive Gluten/Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 179 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 68 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 57 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 67 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 32 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: None
Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): Pork, Cashew, White potato
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Corn, Rice, Tuna, Beef, Chicken, Walnut, Almond
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+): Oat
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Tuna
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Beef
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Pork
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
Lab tests back-now I need some advise, please
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Gabes-Apg
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High results - shows there is a fair bit of inflammation
it is early days for you being Gluten Free, Dairy Free, Soy Free. it can take a few weeks to see the benefits of this. With the results from these tests, the sooner you can be 100% Soy free it will help to reduce the inflammation
so far as food,
migrate across to Pork, Turkey, Lamb, or game meats like Duck, venison etc
veges, I would suggest going for sweet potato
it will take a few weeks for your body to benefit from the Vit D3 and magnesium
Yes, soy is everywhere! the quickest way to protect yourself from it is to throw away every bathroom product, make up product, pantry product/GF processed items (breads cookies etc) and only purchase brands that you know are safe. doing this will also protect you from corn.
having an eating plan that is based on safe proteins and veges is safest way to avoid soy and corn.
the same for supplements, only use the brands /products that others recommend here that are soy free ( and for you corn free)
hope this helps
it is early days for you being Gluten Free, Dairy Free, Soy Free. it can take a few weeks to see the benefits of this. With the results from these tests, the sooner you can be 100% Soy free it will help to reduce the inflammation
so far as food,
migrate across to Pork, Turkey, Lamb, or game meats like Duck, venison etc
veges, I would suggest going for sweet potato
it will take a few weeks for your body to benefit from the Vit D3 and magnesium
Yes, soy is everywhere! the quickest way to protect yourself from it is to throw away every bathroom product, make up product, pantry product/GF processed items (breads cookies etc) and only purchase brands that you know are safe. doing this will also protect you from corn.
having an eating plan that is based on safe proteins and veges is safest way to avoid soy and corn.
the same for supplements, only use the brands /products that others recommend here that are soy free ( and for you corn free)
hope this helps
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
with Gabes. She's right on target and I can't think of anything to add.Thank You Gabes and Tex for your help. I have been on this site most of the day gathering all kinds of good info on what products are available to make this a little easier. It is a bit overwhelming but you all have heard that before!
What about Cornish Game Hens? Are they too "processed" to be good for us? Since I can never have a chile rellano burrito again I hope I can come up with some new favorites soon!
Thanks again.
Laura
What about Cornish Game Hens? Are they too "processed" to be good for us? Since I can never have a chile rellano burrito again I hope I can come up with some new favorites soon!
Thanks again.
Laura
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we dont have cornish game hens in Aus, so cant comment directly
not trying to overwhelm you, but be cautious about poultry for mass market, majority of them are feed wheat, corn and soy.
as you are quite inflammed, this second level ingestion of wheat, corn, and soy may be adding to your inflammation (overhwelming yes, all part of life in MC world)
going for things like pork, lamb, game meats they are more likely to be grass fed/eating naturally and not have the grains as a main part of their diet.
when I was first Dx and quite inflammed, i stuck with grass fed meats. now with leaky gut healed, and minimal inflammation I dont have to be as fussy.
not trying to overwhelm you, but be cautious about poultry for mass market, majority of them are feed wheat, corn and soy.
as you are quite inflammed, this second level ingestion of wheat, corn, and soy may be adding to your inflammation (overhwelming yes, all part of life in MC world)
going for things like pork, lamb, game meats they are more likely to be grass fed/eating naturally and not have the grains as a main part of their diet.
when I was first Dx and quite inflammed, i stuck with grass fed meats. now with leaky gut healed, and minimal inflammation I dont have to be as fussy.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Okay, think I understand a little more about the source of protein. I'm in the process now of clearing out the freezer and pantry of items I know some friends of my can enjoy that I can't. I hope I'm not hurting them.
I really do feel a little guilty about passing along items that are poison to me--but I have to remember that there was a time when I thought all of that stuff was good. I would never wish this disease on anyone ( well maybe the GI who gave me those PPI's).
My cousin who is visiting is frying up some lamb steaks, so will go and see if I help a little in the kitchen. Thank goodness for great kin folk!
Thanks Gabes.
I really do feel a little guilty about passing along items that are poison to me--but I have to remember that there was a time when I thought all of that stuff was good. I would never wish this disease on anyone ( well maybe the GI who gave me those PPI's).
My cousin who is visiting is frying up some lamb steaks, so will go and see if I help a little in the kitchen. Thank goodness for great kin folk!
Thanks Gabes.
I would guess that Cornish hens should be safer than regular chickens, but maybe not as safe as turkey (no one reacts to turkey).
Unfortunately, in the U. S. pork and lamb are going to be on full feed before slaughter unless they are marked as free-range. But so far lamb has been a very safe choice for virtually everyone. Australian lamb should be available in some locations though, I would think. You might have to ask about it at your butcher shop or supermarket. And of course any wild game would almost surely be grass-fed. Beware of bison though, because these days virtually all of them contain DNA from domestic cattle.
Tex
Unfortunately, in the U. S. pork and lamb are going to be on full feed before slaughter unless they are marked as free-range. But so far lamb has been a very safe choice for virtually everyone. Australian lamb should be available in some locations though, I would think. You might have to ask about it at your butcher shop or supermarket. And of course any wild game would almost surely be grass-fed. Beware of bison though, because these days virtually all of them contain DNA from domestic cattle.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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I hope you enjoy the lamb.
take it a meal at a time... it has been a big few weeks, and lots going on..
start with coming up with good protein sources that settle well.
it is a big adjustment to 'delete the hard drive' ie various aspects of our lives/beliefs about nutrition cooking etc and start from scratch type thing...
once you do know protein sources that settle well, another really good source of nutrients, amino acids and gut healing goodness, is home made bone broth. Use the bones of safe protein sources. I make soups and stews from it, cook my vegetables in it.
once you do know your safe proteins and veges, having precooked soups and stews in the freezer makes life much easier.
as i am working, i do cook ups on the weekend, freeze in meal portions.
as i live alone, and semi rural, I also make sure i have extra meals in the freezer should I get sick or the road cut off via flooding.
many here use slow cookers etc safe protein, safe veges, in the one pot
I have been doing cook ups etc since my MC diagnosis. being a bit organised makes sticking with the eating plan way way easier...
it removes alot of the stress ( another bad trigger for MC'ers).
you may have read it in some other posts, its about progress not perfection... dont overthink it, or get too obsessed, day at a time, meal at time,
take it a meal at a time... it has been a big few weeks, and lots going on..
start with coming up with good protein sources that settle well.
it is a big adjustment to 'delete the hard drive' ie various aspects of our lives/beliefs about nutrition cooking etc and start from scratch type thing...
once you do know protein sources that settle well, another really good source of nutrients, amino acids and gut healing goodness, is home made bone broth. Use the bones of safe protein sources. I make soups and stews from it, cook my vegetables in it.
once you do know your safe proteins and veges, having precooked soups and stews in the freezer makes life much easier.
as i am working, i do cook ups on the weekend, freeze in meal portions.
as i live alone, and semi rural, I also make sure i have extra meals in the freezer should I get sick or the road cut off via flooding.
many here use slow cookers etc safe protein, safe veges, in the one pot
I have been doing cook ups etc since my MC diagnosis. being a bit organised makes sticking with the eating plan way way easier...
it removes alot of the stress ( another bad trigger for MC'ers).
you may have read it in some other posts, its about progress not perfection... dont overthink it, or get too obsessed, day at a time, meal at time,
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Lamb is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. We do have Austalian available everywhere here. It's fun experimenting with new to me meat. Being a Texan, I have always been a big beef eater.
What I'm having trouble with is finding some kind of grain flour that is safe for me to use as a thickener or to dust meat before frying in coconut oil. Since I cannot have wheat,corn,rice,soy or oat that leaves little else. Also, I read where almond milk might be okay even tho almond is on my no-no list. True?
Went shopping at our Sprouts store and came away with practically nothing. This is proving to be quite the challenge! No breakfast cereal , no nut butters, no snacks, no milk, no flour.
Thanks for being here, you all are angels.
Laura
What I'm having trouble with is finding some kind of grain flour that is safe for me to use as a thickener or to dust meat before frying in coconut oil. Since I cannot have wheat,corn,rice,soy or oat that leaves little else. Also, I read where almond milk might be okay even tho almond is on my no-no list. True?
Went shopping at our Sprouts store and came away with practically nothing. This is proving to be quite the challenge! No breakfast cereal , no nut butters, no snacks, no milk, no flour.
Thanks for being here, you all are angels.
Laura
You can also use arrowroot starch as a thickener or to make gravy if you're a gravy fan.
For years I couldn't tolerate any kind of nuts (still can't), but I could always tolerate almond milk. Hemp milk is another possibility, but some of us find that it causes some bloating. These days I can tolerate almond and cashew butter (but not the nuts themselves).
Amaranth flour and amaranth cereal is available, but if I remember correctly, the last time I looked (which was years ago) I couldn't find any amaranth cereal that didn't contain an ingredient or 2 that I couldn't handle. Sorghum flour and millet flour are available, but since they are both grasses, they are genetically somewhat similar to corn. Sorghum flour didn't work for me back when I was recovering. I never tried millet flour because a few years ago at least, it was somewhat notorious for being cross-contaminated with gluten (apparently during the milling process) according to some spot tests of flour taken from grocery store shelves.
Tex
For years I couldn't tolerate any kind of nuts (still can't), but I could always tolerate almond milk. Hemp milk is another possibility, but some of us find that it causes some bloating. These days I can tolerate almond and cashew butter (but not the nuts themselves).
Amaranth flour and amaranth cereal is available, but if I remember correctly, the last time I looked (which was years ago) I couldn't find any amaranth cereal that didn't contain an ingredient or 2 that I couldn't handle. Sorghum flour and millet flour are available, but since they are both grasses, they are genetically somewhat similar to corn. Sorghum flour didn't work for me back when I was recovering. I never tried millet flour because a few years ago at least, it was somewhat notorious for being cross-contaminated with gluten (apparently during the milling process) according to some spot tests of flour taken from grocery store shelves.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thank you so much for the right direction to take. Gravy was my number one concern! I'll give the arrowroot starch a go. Have not seen chestnut flour here so will check it on line. Also the cereal. It looks like I might be going on line to have most of my groceries delivered- that's not a bad thing!
Didn't see hemp milk here but I'll give the almond a try. We are getting a Whole Foods store here before the end of the year, so hopefully I'll find some more options for me.
The nut butters I was trying to get all had multiple ingredients that didn't work for me - so maybe on line I can find some.
Thank you again.
Laura
Didn't see hemp milk here but I'll give the almond a try. We are getting a Whole Foods store here before the end of the year, so hopefully I'll find some more options for me.
The nut butters I was trying to get all had multiple ingredients that didn't work for me - so maybe on line I can find some.
Thank you again.
Laura
I used to order hemp milk in aseptic containers (no refrigeration required). That was over 10 years ago, so I'm sure there have been changes in that time. Here's a link to the company where I ordered it:
http://livingharvest.com/
Pure almond butter and pure cashew butter are available on Amazon, but I'm not sure that you can tolerate those if you showed significant sensitivity on an EnteroLab test.
http://www.amazon.com/Zinke-Orchards-Cr ... ailpages00
http://www.amazon.com/Kevala-Cashew-But ... 0F2ZAP9646
You can also buy single jars, or course.
Here's some pure pistachio butter:
http://www.amazon.com/EdenNuts-Pistachi ... hio+butter
There are probably others.
You're most welcome,
Tex
http://livingharvest.com/
Pure almond butter and pure cashew butter are available on Amazon, but I'm not sure that you can tolerate those if you showed significant sensitivity on an EnteroLab test.
http://www.amazon.com/Zinke-Orchards-Cr ... ailpages00
http://www.amazon.com/Kevala-Cashew-But ... 0F2ZAP9646
You can also buy single jars, or course.
Here's some pure pistachio butter:
http://www.amazon.com/EdenNuts-Pistachi ... hio+butter
There are probably others.
You're most welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Woo Hoo - glad you are enjoying the lamb!
coconut flour might also work for coating meat etc
as I live semi rural, I order most of my pantry type ingredients online, postage is cheaper than the petrol/gas price to go and hunt and gather everything!
My friend and work colleague that lives nearby, uses the same websites, so we do orders together and split the delivery costs. sometimes between us we order enough to get free postage.
it gets easier, once you know your safe products and ingredients, adjust the cooking style a bit, it then just 'flows' and you have a routine...and life with MC is not as overwhelming.
coconut flour might also work for coating meat etc
as I live semi rural, I order most of my pantry type ingredients online, postage is cheaper than the petrol/gas price to go and hunt and gather everything!
My friend and work colleague that lives nearby, uses the same websites, so we do orders together and split the delivery costs. sometimes between us we order enough to get free postage.
it gets easier, once you know your safe products and ingredients, adjust the cooking style a bit, it then just 'flows' and you have a routine...and life with MC is not as overwhelming.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Checking back in with a Q
Well it's been a really good couple of weeks. I've been religiously watching my foods and D3, magnesium, added B12 and antihistamine this week and feeling a little stronger. After I finished my last budesonide pill for April (started 3/29/16), decided to try every other day and so far (just 4 days in) so good. As I said before, I was only taking 3mg a day from the beginning, so maybe I'll be able to reduce without much problem.
I have been discovering new foods (like quail, venison and all parts of lamb) and new methods of preparing and it's not all bad. Fortunately, my sister (we share a house) is on board with the new smells coming out of the kitchen.
One question I have: someone has gifted me 90 quail eggs and I don't know whether I should even try them or not. Chicken eggs is a no-no for me, but from reading other's post, many people can tolerate them. Would you risk trying them at this stage? I fear screwing up a good thing, but I'm also trying other new proteins without a problem.
I have been faithfully reading everyone's post daily and am so glad we all have found a place that understands our plight. Thanks for any input on your experience with quail eggs.
Love to all, Laura
I have been discovering new foods (like quail, venison and all parts of lamb) and new methods of preparing and it's not all bad. Fortunately, my sister (we share a house) is on board with the new smells coming out of the kitchen.
One question I have: someone has gifted me 90 quail eggs and I don't know whether I should even try them or not. Chicken eggs is a no-no for me, but from reading other's post, many people can tolerate them. Would you risk trying them at this stage? I fear screwing up a good thing, but I'm also trying other new proteins without a problem.
I have been faithfully reading everyone's post daily and am so glad we all have found a place that understands our plight. Thanks for any input on your experience with quail eggs.
Love to all, Laura