Laura
that is fantastic news!
re the quail eggs, I would try small amount and see how your body responds,
dont have any other new ingredients that day.
you cant screw things up persay, figuring out your safe eating plan is all about learnings.
so long as you dont have big servings of new things, and dont try too many things close together you should be ok.
Lab tests back-now I need some advise, please
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Laura,
Kudos on your progress.
Gabes' advice to try them is right on target. Chickens and quail are in the same genetic family (Phasianidae), but so are turkeys, and virtually everyone can tolerate turkey meat, thought no one here (to my knowledge) has tried turkey eggs. We know that most members who are sensitive to chicken eggs can tolerate duck eggs. But while ducks are certainly related to chickens, not only are they from a different family (Anatidae), they are from a different order (the taxonomy level above family) so they are definitely not as closely related to chickens as quail.
That said, some taxonomists believe that the New World Quail (including Bobwhites) are different enough to get their own family, (Odontophoridae). So that supports the possibility that their eggs might be safe (though it certainly doesn't guarantee it). Do you know which species of quail laid the eggs that you have? If they're from old-world quail (such as coturnix), I'm guessing that they may not work.
Tex
Kudos on your progress.Gabes' advice to try them is right on target. Chickens and quail are in the same genetic family (Phasianidae), but so are turkeys, and virtually everyone can tolerate turkey meat, thought no one here (to my knowledge) has tried turkey eggs. We know that most members who are sensitive to chicken eggs can tolerate duck eggs. But while ducks are certainly related to chickens, not only are they from a different family (Anatidae), they are from a different order (the taxonomy level above family) so they are definitely not as closely related to chickens as quail.
That said, some taxonomists believe that the New World Quail (including Bobwhites) are different enough to get their own family, (Odontophoridae). So that supports the possibility that their eggs might be safe (though it certainly doesn't guarantee it). Do you know which species of quail laid the eggs that you have? If they're from old-world quail (such as coturnix), I'm guessing that they may not work.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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based on various discussions over my time here on the board, as more people are reacting to chicken, my thinking is, it is not the chicken per say but more so, what the chickens have been fed/injected with coupled with mass production approaches to breeding etc and the impact on the eggs.
I can not tolerate commercial eggs. (even those packaged as Free Range)
Even organic 'gluten free eggs' are not ideal, as they are fed Soy.
I can eat eggs from free range chickens that are supplemented with grain no problems at all - where the chickens have grown at their 'normal growth cycle'
Any product from an animal that has had minimal amounts of human intervention is generally safest option
I can not tolerate commercial eggs. (even those packaged as Free Range)
Even organic 'gluten free eggs' are not ideal, as they are fed Soy.
I can eat eggs from free range chickens that are supplemented with grain no problems at all - where the chickens have grown at their 'normal growth cycle'
Any product from an animal that has had minimal amounts of human intervention is generally safest option
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
These quail and eggs are from Manchester Farms outside of Charlotte SC. The breed they are using is Pharaohs that originated in Asia. (I had to look it up on the internet just now.) My sweet cousin lives there and just couldn't resist sending them to me when she found out I could eat quail.
Interesting observation re chickens and that so many of us are intolerant. That makes total sense to me. I'm one "us."
Laura
Interesting observation re chickens and that so many of us are intolerant. That makes total sense to me. I'm one "us."
Laura
Yep, those are an old-world species. Still, since you have so many, the eggs are certainly worth trying, because there's a decent chance that they will be OK. The meat from those quail should work just fine.
Enjoy.
Tex
Enjoy.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Update from Dr appt
Well it's been a couple of weeks of staying the course and all is going okay. I had my first appointment with GI 5/9/16 since he diagnosed my MC back in February. This is not a man I am real fond of, so I had to make up my mind to not let him push my buttons and just go with the flow. Well he surprised me by actually pretending to listen to me and seemed to be interested in Dr. Fine's lab report. Even commented "what CAN you eat??". We decided to go to every other day on budesonide (I didn't tell him I was already started doing that 1 week prior). He asked me what I was doing about my Gerd issues and I told him that since changing my diet, there was no issue. He said that most of his patients don't have the will power to follow a strict diet and knew that diet does help gerd. However, he was not convinced that the PPI he gave me last year was the trigger for my MC. He said " we don't know what causes MC, but it is not PPI's." (HA!) Then as he was running out the door he had to ruin it...his parting words were: you know you really need to stop smoking and loose weight (never mind I have just lost 25 lbs. the hard way).
Any how, I kept my promise to myself and didn't let him upset me.. I just need him around for his signature, not for his bedside manner. Speaking of which, I'm trying to get him to sign off on a jury duty excuse form. Hope to hear from the office today. If he doesn't come through for me I have an appointment with my Primary dr next week and she'll do it for me I'm sure. I'm not ready for "prime time" in the public just yet. Don't quite have all my confidence back yet. I do okay in the afternoons - it's the mornings that I worry about still. Not that anything bad has happened. I just still feel like anything could happen without notice!
Update on Quail eggs: I finally got the nerve up to try them yesterday and they were great. No reaction from them. Wish I could find some duck eggs to try. The quails are so tiny they're kind of hard to deal with. It takes 5 eggs to = 1 chicken egg!
Enough rambling for one day. Hope everyone has a good weekend!
Love to all,
Laura
Any how, I kept my promise to myself and didn't let him upset me.. I just need him around for his signature, not for his bedside manner. Speaking of which, I'm trying to get him to sign off on a jury duty excuse form. Hope to hear from the office today. If he doesn't come through for me I have an appointment with my Primary dr next week and she'll do it for me I'm sure. I'm not ready for "prime time" in the public just yet. Don't quite have all my confidence back yet. I do okay in the afternoons - it's the mornings that I worry about still. Not that anything bad has happened. I just still feel like anything could happen without notice!
Update on Quail eggs: I finally got the nerve up to try them yesterday and they were great. No reaction from them. Wish I could find some duck eggs to try. The quails are so tiny they're kind of hard to deal with. It takes 5 eggs to = 1 chicken egg!
Enough rambling for one day. Hope everyone has a good weekend!
Love to all,
Laura
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glad the quail eggs worked out
and well done on how you handled the doctors visit..
you are on the right path to wellness,,, hang in there
it takes time to know your body, the symptoms and indicators, in time the mornings will be less stressful
and well done on how you handled the doctors visit..
you are on the right path to wellness,,, hang in there
it takes time to know your body, the symptoms and indicators, in time the mornings will be less stressful
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Had the best dr visit today. I visited with my primary care dr and caught her up on everything going on. She was so cool, she wrote wrote down everything I told her about this site, the book, the lab work and asked all the right questions. Turns out her father is suffering with symptoms that sounded very familiar and she didn't know where to get help for him. So we "bonded" today. And the best part was when I asked her if We could find a way for us to deal with my mc from here on out without having to involve my yucky GI and she smiled (knowingly) and said yes!
Then the next best part was when she signed my jury excuse form and got me permanently excused! Told you it was a great visit.
Also, my bone density test came back great. I actually raised my scores and doing good on that front. I didn't realize you can reverse the loss. Going to have full blood work done next, so keep your fingers crossed for me that that comes out good too!
My horoscope did tell me I was going to have a 5 star day!
Tex, if you see this, I received my card yesterday. Thank you so much. It looks great. I just hope I don't have to use it!
Laura
Then the next best part was when she signed my jury excuse form and got me permanently excused! Told you it was a great visit.
Also, my bone density test came back great. I actually raised my scores and doing good on that front. I didn't realize you can reverse the loss. Going to have full blood work done next, so keep your fingers crossed for me that that comes out good too!
My horoscope did tell me I was going to have a 5 star day!
Tex, if you see this, I received my card yesterday. Thank you so much. It looks great. I just hope I don't have to use it!
Laura
Kudos to your doctor. Good for her. You definitely have found a keeper.
Please be aware that bone density scores can vary slightly not only from one machine to another (and possibly from one calibration to another), but they can also depend somewhat on the operator/poses, etc. But yes, it is certainly possible to improve bone health and strength.
Thank you for sharing all the good news. Regarding the card, you are most welcome of course. I also hope that you will never need to use it.
Tex
Please be aware that bone density scores can vary slightly not only from one machine to another (and possibly from one calibration to another), but they can also depend somewhat on the operator/poses, etc. But yes, it is certainly possible to improve bone health and strength.
Thank you for sharing all the good news. Regarding the card, you are most welcome of course. I also hope that you will never need to use it.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex, I have been reading your other posts re: the bone density tests and how they can vary. I'm hoping that since I've been going to the same place for years that it is close to being true. I was just pleased that I'm not falling apart at the seams!
I also forgot to mention that my blood pressure is way down so I don't have to take pills for that. Doc thought it was probably a result from all the weight loss and good diet.
Thanks for being here for all of us.
Laura
I also forgot to mention that my blood pressure is way down so I don't have to take pills for that. Doc thought it was probably a result from all the weight loss and good diet.
Thanks for being here for all of us.
Laura
Laura,
I agree that if the tests were done at the same location, the results should be about as accurate and reliable as anyone can hope to get.
Everyone hates to be diagnosed with a disease such as this, but I have to say that it has definitely forced me to eat a healthier diet, and apparently that applies to many of us. Good for you for making your doctor happy.
You're most welcome. Thank you for sharing your insight.
Tex
I agree that if the tests were done at the same location, the results should be about as accurate and reliable as anyone can hope to get.
Everyone hates to be diagnosed with a disease such as this, but I have to say that it has definitely forced me to eat a healthier diet, and apparently that applies to many of us. Good for you for making your doctor happy.
You're most welcome. Thank you for sharing your insight.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Just when I thought things were purring along.....
I seem to be taking that infamous "one step back" the past week. I have been reducing the Budesonide to take one then two days off and that was doing okay. Then I guess the stress took over when I lost my long time friend to cancer, had to put one of my precious cats down and the kitchen sink clogged up all within 2 days. I'm just wondering if the stress trigger will abate soon? I have been really good about eating safely and doing the d3 and magnesium. The WD is only occurring once in the morning and then I' m okay for the day...except for the gurgling that has come back after being long gone.
Thanks for letting me vent. That always helps!
Laura
I seem to be taking that infamous "one step back" the past week. I have been reducing the Budesonide to take one then two days off and that was doing okay. Then I guess the stress took over when I lost my long time friend to cancer, had to put one of my precious cats down and the kitchen sink clogged up all within 2 days. I'm just wondering if the stress trigger will abate soon? I have been really good about eating safely and doing the d3 and magnesium. The WD is only occurring once in the morning and then I' m okay for the day...except for the gurgling that has come back after being long gone.
Thanks for letting me vent. That always helps!
Laura