Juicing my vegetables?
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Juicing my vegetables?
I tried juicing my vegetable because I thought it would eliminate the fiber. I did not work. Is a juicer of any use at all? Should I try certain vegetable one at a time? I'm getting weak from no vege in spite of taking good quality vitamins. Also, what about using pgx daily for prebiotic. Thanks
Hi Lizabelle.
I'm not so certain weakness comes from no veges....but just low B vitamins in general. I only eat carrots, some celery and occasionally squash but I supplement (now that I have had some good healing time) with B12, B6, and Biotin and that has lifted my energy level much nicer now. I also keep the VitD3 and Drs Best Elemental Magnesium going along with some external magnesium too.
At this point depending on your healing, probiotic use would only be useful if you had to be on an antibiotic, then I would say sure take a probiotic for a couple weeks after you were done with the antibiotic and get some beneficial bacteria back into your gut. Then after a couple weeks the bacteria that you ingest on a daily basis moving forward from foods and liquids and the air will balance you out as an individual on its own.
The combo I mention above seems to be enough to keep me going. I've looked into the juicing and low fiber fruits and veges and only a little intake at a time is all I can think of. Too much sugar (even in natural form) or fiber upsets the apple cart in the MC world.
Good luck!
Erica
I'm not so certain weakness comes from no veges....but just low B vitamins in general. I only eat carrots, some celery and occasionally squash but I supplement (now that I have had some good healing time) with B12, B6, and Biotin and that has lifted my energy level much nicer now. I also keep the VitD3 and Drs Best Elemental Magnesium going along with some external magnesium too.
At this point depending on your healing, probiotic use would only be useful if you had to be on an antibiotic, then I would say sure take a probiotic for a couple weeks after you were done with the antibiotic and get some beneficial bacteria back into your gut. Then after a couple weeks the bacteria that you ingest on a daily basis moving forward from foods and liquids and the air will balance you out as an individual on its own.
The combo I mention above seems to be enough to keep me going. I've looked into the juicing and low fiber fruits and veges and only a little intake at a time is all I can think of. Too much sugar (even in natural form) or fiber upsets the apple cart in the MC world.
Good luck!
Erica
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Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Maybe, especially if the apples are cooked (or microwaved), but most of us have to limit our fiber intake significantly until our intestines have done some healing. We're all different though in how much fiber we can tolerate. For most of us, in general, the less fiber we take in, the faster we heal.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Phase 1 -- how can I get veggies in my diet?
Hi, everyone,
I am trying to help my husband get his daily cooked veggies, but understand from this wonderful forum that it is wise to limit fiber, esp. in Phase I, at the beginning of the healing process.
Is there a place here that might list veggies in terms of their insoluble fiber content?
Also, if I boil the heck of a vegetable and then blend it in our Vitamix -- would that reduce the insoluble fiber? Or at least reduce its ability to irritate the colon, which is all we care about anyway, right?
I am limited in what I can give him to eat. He is pre-diabetic. And he has heart disease. So that limits how many carbs I can give him and also saturated fat. -- Which is why I am turning to all of you for help!
Thanks
Lydia
I am trying to help my husband get his daily cooked veggies, but understand from this wonderful forum that it is wise to limit fiber, esp. in Phase I, at the beginning of the healing process.
Is there a place here that might list veggies in terms of their insoluble fiber content?
Also, if I boil the heck of a vegetable and then blend it in our Vitamix -- would that reduce the insoluble fiber? Or at least reduce its ability to irritate the colon, which is all we care about anyway, right?
I am limited in what I can give him to eat. He is pre-diabetic. And he has heart disease. So that limits how many carbs I can give him and also saturated fat. -- Which is why I am turning to all of you for help!
Thanks
Lydia
Hello Lydia,
Welcome to the group. I'm not aware of any place where vegetables are listed in order of fiber content. Such lists wouldn't be of much value to us anyway,because we recommend peeling any vegetable with a thick protective cover or skin. Peeling gets rid of most of the fiber for many vegetables. The worst offenders as carbs go, are the grains. The fewer grains we eat, the better off we are, as a general rule, and I believe that applies to diabetes as well. Overcooking vegetables makes them easier for us to digest, and running them through a Vitamix should surely make them easier to digest, although that won't reduce the fiber content.
Most of us are not diabetes experts, but we do have quite a few diabetics among our members. Fortunately, the type of diet that we usually recommend for treating MC is low-carb, so it's automatically diabetes-friendly. There are certain foods that everyone reacts to and certain foods that cause no one to react. It's certainly possible to develop a diet that will be compatible with diabetes and at the same time will not cause an MC reaction. We do best on a low-carb diet. In fact, a no-carb diet will work well for MC. Proteins that are safe for everyone with MC include turkey, lamb, venison, duck, goose, rabbit and other wild-type meats. Except for bison. All bison alive today have DNA from domestic cattle, so some MC patients (but not all) will react to them. Unless he is otherwise allergic to them, shellfish such as shrimp, prawns, clams, oysters, etc., should be safe.
Vegetables such as green beans, squash, carrots, and asparagus are usually safe for most MC patients. They should all be over-cooked to make digestion easier, and vegetables such as squash and carrots should be peeled to minimize the fiber. In general, MC patients need to minimize fiber (because it irritates the gut when the intestines are already inflamed) and sugar (because we are only able to digest small amounts of sugar when our intestines are inflamed — we are unable to produce normal amounts of the enzymes needed to digest larger amounts of sugar when our intestines are inflamed).
On the other hand, everyone reacts to gluten. Most people react to all dairy products and soy, and at least half react to chicken eggs. Most (but not all) people who react to chicken eggs can safely eat duck eggs, turkey eggs, quail eggs, etc. People who react to dairy products can safely drink the milk from the cameloids (camels, llamas, guanacos, alpacas, and vicuñas), but they cannot safely drink the milk from sheep and goats. Using almond milk, cashew milk, coconut milk, or rice milk is usually a more practical substitution. Some fish may be safe, but some people react to tuna and salmon, especially. Most people (but not all) can safely eat potatoes or sweet potatoes
Meals should be cooked from scratch (using plain, whole foods), to avoid contamination. Any commercially-processed food that contains more than about 5 ingredients should usually be avoided because the more ingredients it contains, the greater the chances that it probably contains something that will cause a reaction. When recovering from MC, one's diet should be simple and bland. The fancy stuff should be left for later, after remission is attained. If risky foods are included while trying to reach remission, remission may never be achieved.
I hope that some of this is helpful.
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
Welcome to the group. I'm not aware of any place where vegetables are listed in order of fiber content. Such lists wouldn't be of much value to us anyway,because we recommend peeling any vegetable with a thick protective cover or skin. Peeling gets rid of most of the fiber for many vegetables. The worst offenders as carbs go, are the grains. The fewer grains we eat, the better off we are, as a general rule, and I believe that applies to diabetes as well. Overcooking vegetables makes them easier for us to digest, and running them through a Vitamix should surely make them easier to digest, although that won't reduce the fiber content.
Most of us are not diabetes experts, but we do have quite a few diabetics among our members. Fortunately, the type of diet that we usually recommend for treating MC is low-carb, so it's automatically diabetes-friendly. There are certain foods that everyone reacts to and certain foods that cause no one to react. It's certainly possible to develop a diet that will be compatible with diabetes and at the same time will not cause an MC reaction. We do best on a low-carb diet. In fact, a no-carb diet will work well for MC. Proteins that are safe for everyone with MC include turkey, lamb, venison, duck, goose, rabbit and other wild-type meats. Except for bison. All bison alive today have DNA from domestic cattle, so some MC patients (but not all) will react to them. Unless he is otherwise allergic to them, shellfish such as shrimp, prawns, clams, oysters, etc., should be safe.
Vegetables such as green beans, squash, carrots, and asparagus are usually safe for most MC patients. They should all be over-cooked to make digestion easier, and vegetables such as squash and carrots should be peeled to minimize the fiber. In general, MC patients need to minimize fiber (because it irritates the gut when the intestines are already inflamed) and sugar (because we are only able to digest small amounts of sugar when our intestines are inflamed — we are unable to produce normal amounts of the enzymes needed to digest larger amounts of sugar when our intestines are inflamed).
On the other hand, everyone reacts to gluten. Most people react to all dairy products and soy, and at least half react to chicken eggs. Most (but not all) people who react to chicken eggs can safely eat duck eggs, turkey eggs, quail eggs, etc. People who react to dairy products can safely drink the milk from the cameloids (camels, llamas, guanacos, alpacas, and vicuñas), but they cannot safely drink the milk from sheep and goats. Using almond milk, cashew milk, coconut milk, or rice milk is usually a more practical substitution. Some fish may be safe, but some people react to tuna and salmon, especially. Most people (but not all) can safely eat potatoes or sweet potatoes
Meals should be cooked from scratch (using plain, whole foods), to avoid contamination. Any commercially-processed food that contains more than about 5 ingredients should usually be avoided because the more ingredients it contains, the greater the chances that it probably contains something that will cause a reaction. When recovering from MC, one's diet should be simple and bland. The fancy stuff should be left for later, after remission is attained. If risky foods are included while trying to reach remission, remission may never be achieved.
I hope that some of this is helpful.
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.