Reintroducing foods

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:31 am

Hi everyone,
I am going on week 3 of my elimination diet. I'm wondering if vegetables are cooked really well, can I try any type? The magnesium oil has been amazing! I feel a lot better... Still have the D but less often and not as W. I feel I'm improving but I'm kind of scared to eat anything besides my chicken and potatoes and bananas :) I used to love salad but I know I shouldn't have it. Does anyone try vegan cheese? Are beans ok? I have tried rice rollers which I love. Thanks in advance!

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:42 am

that is good that there is some improvements

some vegan cheeses are based on soy, double check the ingredients, i have seen some cheese in Australia that a coconut based, taste wise they were quite bland.

I have mentioned the safest vegetables in the early stages of healing, in the guidelines for recovery section
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22328

The best approach is try one new thing at a time. it is normal to have a change in BM when adding a new ingredient.
Have a small serve ( no more than 3/4 cup) one day, wait 24 hours. have another small serve (again no more than 3/4 cup). wait another 24 hours and then have another small serve. If after the third day there are no symptoms, that ingredient is a keeper.

hope this helps.

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:26 am

Thanks Gabes! I heard there is a cashew cheese too, I'll start looking for these. If I am trying out dairy does the ingredients differ between milk and cheese because of the casein? Or does any dairy have casein in it?

Post by **tex** » Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:16 am

Beccasue,

All dairy products (including cheese) contain casein. Ghee, which is refined butter, has most of the casein filtered out of it, but it still contains traces of casein. Some of us can tolerate it, others cannot. And of course the casein content varies by the brand, because the filtering process is critical for casein removal.

Tex

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:49 pm

Hi Tex,
Have you heard of Dr. axes Bone Broth protein powder with turmeric? I saw it advertised but wasn't sure of the reviews. I heard turmeric is really good for you , do you know anything about it?

Post by **tex** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:23 pm

Hi Beccasue,

I'm somewhat familiar with Dr. Axe's general approach to medicine because I studied his views of the cause of Steve Job's death (he blamed it on the liver transplant rather than on Jobs'high-fructose, nutrient-deficient diet) but I'm not familiar with any of his products.

But regarding turmeric, I can recall many members here posting about using it, but like so many of the "natural" supplements/treatments that are supposed to be beneficial, most people probably can't tolerate enough of it to actually provide many benefits. I believe it takes a significant amount to provide any real benefits, and there is a relatively low limit to how much most people can tolerate, that probably varies by the individual. I believe that Brandy may be the only one here who uses it regularly, but I could certainly be wrong.

Here are a couple of past threads about it:

Curcumin (turmeric) use

Turmeric for GI Inflammation

I have a hunch that homemade bone broth would probably do more good than Dr. Axe's concoction, but that's strictly a wild guess based on the fact that most of us almost always do better with homemade meals than we do with processed foods, and I would classify most protein powders as highly-processed foods.

Tex

Tex

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:51 pm

Thanks Tex :) I may try making my own bone broth and supplementing with turmeric. I read the other posts too, thanks! Now that my WD is under control does this mean my inflammation is gone or just controlled? I'm wondering because maybe I don't need the turmeric. The elimination diet has really helped me, and now I need to reintroduce but I'm nervous to. Is it possible to continue the elimination diet for long term or would the nutrition level be too low?

Post by **tex** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:05 am

Now that my WD is under control does this mean my inflammation is gone or just controlled?

Sort of — your inflammation may not be completely gone yet, but it is obviously well on it's way to getting back down to normal levels. It takes a while for all of the inflammation to completely fade away, but once the problem foods are removed from the diet, the immune system begins to settle down so that new inflammation is not generated with each meal, and that allows the existing inflammation to slowly fade away as the production of antibodies ceases.

Many of us have no choice but to continue on a virtual elimination diet because we react to so many foods. If you're concerned about your nutrition level you can check your nutritional status with online nutrition checkers available at sites such as Fitday or Chronometer. Here's a link to a thread where the merits of these options are discussed.

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=21012

https://cronometer.com/

http://www.fitday.com/

There are also aps available for your smartphone. If certain nutrients appear to be inadequate, you can either do as many of us do and simply take a supplement, or try to add one or more foods that contain those nutrients to your diet.

Most of us continue to take vitamin D and magnesium regardless of what the posted nutrition guidelines claim about the nutrients available in foods because it appears that most foods actually contain far less of the nutrients than the guidelines and labels claim. Most of the information is based on old USDA studies made years ago when soils on which these foods are grown were not so depleted of nutrients. Scientists have a bad habit of assuming that once they do a study, those results are chiseled in stone. Unfortunately that's simply not true, because the world, and almost everything in it continue to change. This is one of the reasons why magnesium deficiency is so widespread.

Personally, I eat a very limited diet that's low-carb, with a minimum of fiber. And I take vitamins and minerals as needed.

Tex

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:03 am

This is great information, thank you Tex :)

hollyweb · Post by **hollyweb** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:45 pm

Dear Because:

So glad to hear you are making great progress!! Sometimes it's helpful to keep a journal or some notes so that just in case you need to refer back to a time when you were doing well, you'll be able to see exactly what you were eating (and thus, not eating) and any supplements, etc.

Boy, it sure is scary to make any changes once things start to settle down!! I feel your pain ... yet the hope there too. You may have posted elsewhere and obviously I'm a newbie here too, but did you have any testing done to determine food allergies/intolerances? Specifically, EnteroLabs is recommended here as they are the only labs to test for intolerances that cause inflammation in the intestines (our primary MC symptom). I just sent in my sample and hope to receive my results within the next 1-2 weeks and will surely be sharing them here for help with understanding and how to utilize these results for best control of my LMC.

Just wondering ... having something concrete like that (and personalized ... after all, it's YOUR stool, thus YOUR intestines!!) to go on will definitely give more peace of mind about what foods might be safer for you to add back in than others. Since I'm new to EnteroLabs also, up to now I've just been basing my diet upon my initial naturopathic doctor's recommendation to go gluten-free, plus I have a blood panel food sensitivity/allergy test result for 95 foods (which it will be interesting to compare with the EnteroLab results) and primarily, the recommendations of all the other brave MC'rs who've gone before me and posted HERE. For which my gratitude is unending. Thankfully and gratefully, my D does seem to be ending!!

~ Holly

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:42 pm

Hi Holly,

The only testing I've had done was my initial blood test for celiac and then an endoscopy and colonoscopy. These revealed my celiac, the scalloping, and lymphocytic colitis. I had been gluten free but it was not stopping the WD so that prompted me to start the elimination diet. I assume I'm dairy intolerant just because I feel so much better with out it. I may do the entero labs one day but I'm not sure when. This site has been so great for me too! Everyone is so knowledgeable:)

hollyweb · Post by **hollyweb** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Couldn't agree with you more!! I also have the Lymphocytic Microscopic Colitis, and even though my celiac tests were negative (colonoscopy, endoscopy and blood lab) ... I've learned from this forum that a positive diagnosis of MC means (almost 100% of the time) that one needs to be gluten-free, and dairy-free, and that we likely have other food triggers too. Since I tested "moderate" for gluten reaction on my blood panel, and "avoid - off the charts" with egg whites, soy and dairy ... like I said, it will be interesting to find out what my intestinal tract has to say about that, per the EnteroLab results (measuring what my intestines are reacting to - likely if it's something measurable to such a high extent in my blood, it's already wreaked havoc with the "guts")!!

Again, wishing you all the best. Please keep posting, asking questions, and letting us know how your journey is going!! You've got a lot of support here!!

~ Holly

jessica329 · Post by **jessica329** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:47 am

My experience with vegan cheese- I stay away from it like the plague. It's a highly processed product that gave me awful diarrhea. I've always done well with white Basmati rice. But unfortunately, it's not a one size fits all when it comes to safe foods.

Beccasue · Post by **Beccasue** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:28 am

Hi Jessica,

That's terrible, do you think it's because of the soy? Every label I've looked at has soybean oil in it so I haven't tried any of it. Thank you for the input, I'll probably stay away from it in the future.

Beccasue

T · Post by T » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:14 am

This was one of my mistakes in the beginning by not reading the ingredients just because it said lactose free on the front.

http://www.blisstree.com/2013/01/31/foo ... an-cheese/

This is now my safe cheese

http://daiyafoods.com/

What I have noticed that if it is labeled lactose free it will more than likely contain casein(dairy).

Terry