I am gearing up to start my elimination trial since I am back on Entocort again. I've been taking three pills/day for the past two weeks and still have D. Things have slowed down a bit and I'm in the bathroom about 3-4 times/day instead of 5-8. I've been debating exactly how to go about this.... Turkey and rice only. Allowing my coffee? Allowing carrots and squash..... I know less is best but the idea of this is daunting.
I read in one of Gabes posts to be careful with rosemary as a flavoring in ground turkey. I emailed jenni o some time ago because their ingredient list is vague. They said their natural flavors were Rosemary. Not sure why that needs to be so secret. Does anyone know if that has soy? I assumed Rosemary is an herb and would be safe.
I suspect sugar may be an issue so my daily break time meal of a Lara bar and piece of fruit should be eliminated for now. I've been around long enough to know the occasional tomato products, beans, an PB need to go. I haven't noticed a huge difference if I eat them or if I don't but considering the D hasn't changed in years it has to be something.
I think my thyroid meds are as good as they will get, for now. I simply accepted I may be one who never sees remission but I also know I haven't tried to the best of my ability either. I'm hoping after a week of turkey and rice with coconut oil only will improve things. If I see improvements, I can start weaning off and see what happens.
I don't want to set myself up for failure by thinking the turkey is a safe choice.
Ground turkey and soy
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Ground turkey and soy
Deb
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
Thanks! I will look. The response I received from jenni o just said Rosemary. Nothing about extract but I wouldn't place full confidence in that. :)
Deb
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
Deb,
Here's a link to that post in case you have a problem locating it, or in case someone else wants to review it:
Rosemary extract
Tex
Here's a link to that post in case you have a problem locating it, or in case someone else wants to review it:
Rosemary extract
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thank you!! I'm behind on reading posts. That was exactly what I didn't want to hear but all these little things in my diet have to cumulative as to why I haven't experienced a true success. Maybe it would be better to try hamburger and rice at first.
Even though my MC remains active I do consider myself a sucess because I felt like I was at death's door when I joined in 2011. It was all strongly related to food.
Even though my MC remains active I do consider myself a sucess because I felt like I was at death's door when I joined in 2011. It was all strongly related to food.
Deb
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
ground turkey is one of my safe foods. I eat it often, almost daily. It's so aggravating that they just can't leave food plain. I can't get it without rosemary in my area. Soy doesn't bother me but I'm still avoiding it as much as humanly possible....
Martha E.
Philippians 4:13
Jul 2008 took Clindamycin for a Sinus infection that forever changed my life
Dec 2014 MC Dx
Jul 15, 2015 Elimination Diet
Aug 17, 2015 Enterolab Test
Dec 2015 Reflux
Sept 2016 IC
Philippians 4:13
Jul 2008 took Clindamycin for a Sinus infection that forever changed my life
Dec 2014 MC Dx
Jul 15, 2015 Elimination Diet
Aug 17, 2015 Enterolab Test
Dec 2015 Reflux
Sept 2016 IC
Marcia,
The problem with most "Soy-Free" labels is that the nutritionist or dietitian or whoever writes the label does not recognize that many people react to such things as soy oil or soy lecithin. This is because most so-called "experts" insist that people who are allergic to soy do not react to soy oil or soy lecithin. Yet actual experiences among the members of this forum (and others) prove them wrong. But because soy oil is generally considered to be allergen-free, then naturally any extraction process (such as rosemary extract) would be incorrectly assumed to be allergen-free.
The basic problem is that too many "experts" in the world are just flat wrong, but most people trust "expert" advice because they are legally recognized as "experts" and they are allowed to testify as "experts" in a court of law. Unfortunately, whether legal or not, they are still wrong.
The bottom line is that just plain rosemary is a safe ingredient, but rosemary extract is not a safe ingredient for many people who are sensitive to soy.
If Plainville Farms Ground Turkey contains no form of rosemary then obviously it is safe. If it contains just plain rosemary, then it is safe. But if it contains rosemary extract, then it is not safe for some of us who are sensitive to soy.
I looked up their label for Plainville Farms Ground Turkey, Raised Without Antibiotics and it shows:
Ingredients
Turkey, rosemary extract.
So a soy-free claim is irrelevant in this case. With such legal labeling errors slipping under the radar, it's no wonder that food sensitivities are so difficult to avoid.
Tex
The problem with most "Soy-Free" labels is that the nutritionist or dietitian or whoever writes the label does not recognize that many people react to such things as soy oil or soy lecithin. This is because most so-called "experts" insist that people who are allergic to soy do not react to soy oil or soy lecithin. Yet actual experiences among the members of this forum (and others) prove them wrong. But because soy oil is generally considered to be allergen-free, then naturally any extraction process (such as rosemary extract) would be incorrectly assumed to be allergen-free.
The basic problem is that too many "experts" in the world are just flat wrong, but most people trust "expert" advice because they are legally recognized as "experts" and they are allowed to testify as "experts" in a court of law. Unfortunately, whether legal or not, they are still wrong.
The bottom line is that just plain rosemary is a safe ingredient, but rosemary extract is not a safe ingredient for many people who are sensitive to soy.
If Plainville Farms Ground Turkey contains no form of rosemary then obviously it is safe. If it contains just plain rosemary, then it is safe. But if it contains rosemary extract, then it is not safe for some of us who are sensitive to soy.
I looked up their label for Plainville Farms Ground Turkey, Raised Without Antibiotics and it shows:
Ingredients
Turkey, rosemary extract.
So a soy-free claim is irrelevant in this case. With such legal labeling errors slipping under the radar, it's no wonder that food sensitivities are so difficult to avoid.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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The labelling used in Australia is 'no added Soy' it is the end producers way of not taking responsibility for processes in the ingredients they use
it is the same for me in Australia there is no ground turkey that is 'pure' it either has rosemary extract or yeast based extracts.
it is the same for me in Australia there is no ground turkey that is 'pure' it either has rosemary extract or yeast based extracts.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Well, if you're not sensitive to soy, then there shouldn't be any problem with you eating it.
And even if you're sensitive to soy, if you're not reacting then the amount must be below your reaction threshold, so you're apparently not producing any significant amount of antibodies to it.
So you might as well continue to enjoy it.
Tex
And even if you're sensitive to soy, if you're not reacting then the amount must be below your reaction threshold, so you're apparently not producing any significant amount of antibodies to it.
So you might as well continue to enjoy it.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
My EnteroLab test for soy was 46 so I have tried to avoid it even though I don't think I react to it. I was drinking soy milk at the time of the testing because I thought it was a healthy alternative to cow's milk. Most articles I've read lately discuss the downside of soy so that's another reason I have tried to stay away from it. I tossed my copy of "The Joy of Soy" which was recommended by our dietitian at work who is a vegetarian.
Marcia
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Marcia,
I have a similar problem. Neither casein nor soy seem to cause any digestive problems, but I produce antibodies to both. And if I eat casein my osteoarthritis becomes active. And while I can't tell that soy causes any digestive problems, peanuts can actually shut down my digestive system and it just completely stops working.
Needless to say, that's not a good thing, so I don't touch casein, soy, or peanuts.
Tex
I have a similar problem. Neither casein nor soy seem to cause any digestive problems, but I produce antibodies to both. And if I eat casein my osteoarthritis becomes active. And while I can't tell that soy causes any digestive problems, peanuts can actually shut down my digestive system and it just completely stops working.
Needless to say, that's not a good thing, so I don't touch casein, soy, or peanuts. Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.