Question re: reaction time
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Question re: reaction time
I've recently weaned off Budesonide and am trying to determine what foods I'm reacting to by using a food diary. The big question is how long does it take to react to a no-no food? I'm sure everyone is different but are we talking minutes to an hour, several hours or the next day? I've had two great days but this morning has brought with it cramping and WD which I'm sure is from eating something I shouldn't have. Was it this morning, dinner last night or even yesterday's breakfast. What has been your experience?
Hi,
I wish I knew how long it takes until you react. That should make life much easier.
In my case the time and also the reaction itself depends on what I eat: I can react very quickly (within one hour) but it can also take longer, even several days.
My experience with WD is that this comes immediately or within a few hours.
But you are right: everybody is different, that's why it is very useful to keep a food diary.
My advise is: try to find out what it is and try this food,after the WD is gone, a second time to be sure. The good thing is that you are in that case one step further in finding out your intolerances!
I know how frustrating it is. I'm still not sure about all my intolerances. Success!!
Sonja
I wish I knew how long it takes until you react. That should make life much easier.
In my case the time and also the reaction itself depends on what I eat: I can react very quickly (within one hour) but it can also take longer, even several days.
My experience with WD is that this comes immediately or within a few hours.
But you are right: everybody is different, that's why it is very useful to keep a food diary.
My advise is: try to find out what it is and try this food,after the WD is gone, a second time to be sure. The good thing is that you are in that case one step further in finding out your intolerances!
I know how frustrating it is. I'm still not sure about all my intolerances. Success!!
Sonja
Sonja is correct of course. The type of food can make a difference and whether or not we are in remission or still recovering makes a difference. For gluten, typical reactions are between 3 and 6 hours, but it can happen sooner or later, for some of us. And as she pointed out, for some foods (if they cause a mast cell reaction), we may react in an hour or less. Some foods may take over a day, or more than 2 days.
As Sonja said, we are all different, so we tend to have our own patterns of reaction times and symptoms.
Tex
As Sonja said, we are all different, so we tend to have our own patterns of reaction times and symptoms.
Tex
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I hear you - it is hard at first.
in line with what Sonja and Tex have said, there can also be the situation that one small serve of an ingredient will be ok, but having more than 3 serves in a week can cause inflammation.
in the food diary, it is also handy to track other things like activities, locations, sleep quality, was there any additional stress from work or family.
not all our triggers are food related.
hang in there, the time and effort is worth it! knowing our major triggers, and our medium to low level triggers is important for our lifelong wellness...
in line with what Sonja and Tex have said, there can also be the situation that one small serve of an ingredient will be ok, but having more than 3 serves in a week can cause inflammation.
in the food diary, it is also handy to track other things like activities, locations, sleep quality, was there any additional stress from work or family.
not all our triggers are food related.
hang in there, the time and effort is worth it! knowing our major triggers, and our medium to low level triggers is important for our lifelong wellness...
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
My reaction times are a bit longer:
Gluten: about 18 hours and I got a headache and diarrhea. (This was from a small communion wafer)
Soy and legumes: anywhere from 24 hours to 4 days. I get headaches, and terrible body ache and fatigue. Sometimes diarrhea. (This was from textured vegetable protein in a tamale, and from my food on a long airplane flight having beans in it. I tried to eat around the beans, but no luck.)
Dairy: I haven't messed up badly yet, so not really sure. I ate some energy bars that had whey in them, and I noticed increasing gas over the 3 days that I ate the bars. Then I reread the ingredients and stopped eating them. No D or pain from the tiny amount that I ate.
These reaction were caused by small amount of the foods. It's very helpful to keep a diary of what you eat, and your reactions. That's how I traced the soy in the tamale, which was labeled gluten-free, and was also dairy free. It never occurred to me to check for soy before I ate it.
Gluten: about 18 hours and I got a headache and diarrhea. (This was from a small communion wafer)
Soy and legumes: anywhere from 24 hours to 4 days. I get headaches, and terrible body ache and fatigue. Sometimes diarrhea. (This was from textured vegetable protein in a tamale, and from my food on a long airplane flight having beans in it. I tried to eat around the beans, but no luck.)
Dairy: I haven't messed up badly yet, so not really sure. I ate some energy bars that had whey in them, and I noticed increasing gas over the 3 days that I ate the bars. Then I reread the ingredients and stopped eating them. No D or pain from the tiny amount that I ate.
These reaction were caused by small amount of the foods. It's very helpful to keep a diary of what you eat, and your reactions. That's how I traced the soy in the tamale, which was labeled gluten-free, and was also dairy free. It never occurred to me to check for soy before I ate it.
Martha
My reactions are usually the next day as WD. I have had a reaction within an hour from eating a burger and salad at a graduation party that also made pizza at the same location. I think the flour settled on the burger and salad. I've also had a reaction within an hour from eating at a barbeque restaurant.
I'm the same.... Some foods can be within an hour, others the next day. Dairy gives me arthritis-like pains in my finger and toe joints. Many of the delayed reactions were unsolvable puzzles until I read the experiences here. It was the biggest help to me to begin to associate quirkey pains to the foods I ate. It sounds silly to say I ate a piece of cheese and my toe hurts!
Gabes is absolutely correct in that one bite may not cause a noticeable issue but repeated bites throughout the week can all add up. That is the hard part. I agree with you.... It stinks that it's so hard.
Although, I reflected on my progress today and was reminded that some things do get easier. My boss treated everone to lunch today and brought in pizza, broasted chicken, jojo potatoes, and pie. It Smelled awesome. My co-worker leaned over to me and said he felt guilty eating in front of me. It was very sweet but I just shrugged it off and didn't even think twice about it. I simply asked why he would feel guilty because it wasn't a big deal. I munched on my bowl of hamburger and rice was content. Not too long ago I would have cried about it.
Gabes is absolutely correct in that one bite may not cause a noticeable issue but repeated bites throughout the week can all add up. That is the hard part. I agree with you.... It stinks that it's so hard.
Although, I reflected on my progress today and was reminded that some things do get easier. My boss treated everone to lunch today and brought in pizza, broasted chicken, jojo potatoes, and pie. It Smelled awesome. My co-worker leaned over to me and said he felt guilty eating in front of me. It was very sweet but I just shrugged it off and didn't even think twice about it. I simply asked why he would feel guilty because it wasn't a big deal. I munched on my bowl of hamburger and rice was content. Not too long ago I would have cried about it.
Deb
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2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
I decided to try butternut squash today that I cooked at home. Within 30 minutes, acid D, then nausea followed. I sum it up as mast cell, can't be certain. I usually think mast cell with meat and not veges, but who knows. I thought it probably sat in the grocery store for a month, can't really see someone eating those on a regular basis around here
Martha E.
Philippians 4:13
Jul 2008 took Clindamycin for a Sinus infection that forever changed my life
Dec 2014 MC Dx
Jul 15, 2015 Elimination Diet
Aug 17, 2015 Enterolab Test
Dec 2015 Reflux
Sept 2016 IC
Philippians 4:13
Jul 2008 took Clindamycin for a Sinus infection that forever changed my life
Dec 2014 MC Dx
Jul 15, 2015 Elimination Diet
Aug 17, 2015 Enterolab Test
Dec 2015 Reflux
Sept 2016 IC
I sit here and ponder this question.....
The immediate reactions have to be Mast cell and high histamine related - due to once something touches the mouth our bodies register it right away as a friend or foe.
The subtle reactions that take longer and aren't noticed right away are the most frustrating, but then again it takes time for the body to digest things - so the thought here is maybe I'm benefiting from that particular food but by the time it reaches the Large intestine I didn't have enough enzyme to get it broken down and absorbed well enough so now it has to leave the body in the form of WD. That temperamental Large intestine!
I'd watch the foods I've eaten for three days (and make it only 1-2 foods eaten and rotated in those days so you don't have to be a detective at every bathroom trip). See how they passed thru, how did my body feel, was I under any stress during this time....etc.
This may give you the best scenario you are looking for, then as you increase your foods you may be able to pinpoint that particular one that causes distress.
Warmly,
Erica
The immediate reactions have to be Mast cell and high histamine related - due to once something touches the mouth our bodies register it right away as a friend or foe.
The subtle reactions that take longer and aren't noticed right away are the most frustrating, but then again it takes time for the body to digest things - so the thought here is maybe I'm benefiting from that particular food but by the time it reaches the Large intestine I didn't have enough enzyme to get it broken down and absorbed well enough so now it has to leave the body in the form of WD. That temperamental Large intestine!
I'd watch the foods I've eaten for three days (and make it only 1-2 foods eaten and rotated in those days so you don't have to be a detective at every bathroom trip). See how they passed thru, how did my body feel, was I under any stress during this time....etc.
This may give you the best scenario you are looking for, then as you increase your foods you may be able to pinpoint that particular one that causes distress.
Warmly,
Erica
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Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007