Hi all,
My apologies for yet another question - but you all have been so helpful, and have guided me so far on my recovery. I'm now down to 3mg/day of Entocort (after almost a year of being on the drug, starting with 9mg/day), and made great strides after eliminating a problem food or two. But I remain on a very restricted diet (ground turkey, ground venison, ground elk, winter squash, cream of rice [one serving/day], and Oskri coconut bars (1/day), and still have bloating, gas, and occasional loose stools. I'm trying hard to make that final push to recovery.
One thing I noticed is that every time I eat, my nose runs. Not a lot of discharge all at once, but a steady flow of very clear discharge (like water in consistency). It starts almost immediately upon eating. I always thought of it as a mere annoyance (and my wife always says I am like a dog when I kiss her after eating - wet nose, that is), but I am starting to wonder if this means something more.
I have read bits and pieces of you all taking about mast cells, antihistamines, etc. I can't say I understand it all. Does anyone know if the nose issue is significant, and if so, what it means for my recovery? Is it a sign of a separate health issue? Does it signal that there are other steps I should be taking to help my recovery? Antihistamines? Anything else?
Thanks for your help with this. As you all know too well, posing these questions to my [very well meaning] doctor will get me nowhere. I very much appreciate your help.
Thanks,
Brian
Runny nose when I eat ?
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yes the runny nose is an indicator of histamine inflammation (linked to mast cells)
not really a separate health issues, very much linked to MC and how the immune system reacts to things.
definitely consider anti-histamines.
long term, taking P5P (active form of B6) and magnesium helps the body manage histamine levels and minimise reactions.
double check the ingredients of what you are eating - the ground turkey does it have rosemary flavouring? if so this may have traces of soy that you might be reacting to
also look at the environment when you are eating, does it happen every meal? if so, do you eat the meals at the exact same place? there could be a enviro trigger that is heightening histamine reactions
not really a separate health issues, very much linked to MC and how the immune system reacts to things.
definitely consider anti-histamines.
long term, taking P5P (active form of B6) and magnesium helps the body manage histamine levels and minimise reactions.
double check the ingredients of what you are eating - the ground turkey does it have rosemary flavouring? if so this may have traces of soy that you might be reacting to
also look at the environment when you are eating, does it happen every meal? if so, do you eat the meals at the exact same place? there could be a enviro trigger that is heightening histamine reactions
Gabes Ryan
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Hello Brian,
Here's some insight into what Gabes mentioned in her post. As background information, one of many enzymes used by the digestive system is lipase (which is used to help digest fat). Small amounts of lipase are produced in the stomach, but most of it is produced by the pancreas, and released into the duodenum by way of the common bile duct. But small amounts of lipase are also found in saliva.
As soon as we begin to anticipate eating (whether it's the smell of food, or the act of actually placing some of it in one's mouth), we begin to increase saliva production and the saliva also contains a small amount of lipase. The lipase in saliva is known as lingual lipase and it uses the catalysts aspartate, histidine, and serine to help digest fat by hydrolyzing long-chain triglycerides into partial glycerides and free fatty acids.
Histidine is used by the body to make histamine. The body uses histidine decarboxylase enzyme to convert histidine into histamine. When food is anticipated or ingested, histamine production is increased, and it is used to activate the parietal cells (in the stomach) to produce gastric acid which does most of the digestion that takes place in the stomach.
But as explained in the article at the following link, the ability of IBD patients to purge the body of leftover unused or unneeded histamine is commonly compromised, leading to a buildup of histamine in the body, resulting in a condition where the ingestion of certain foods can trigger common classic allergy symptoms.
How a chronic magnesium deficiency can cause inflammation, and how antibiotics can amplify the problem
Please be aware that the point of the cited article is a theory based on published medical research and it's strictly a theory, not proven medical fact. I hope that you find this explanation useful.
Tex
Here's some insight into what Gabes mentioned in her post. As background information, one of many enzymes used by the digestive system is lipase (which is used to help digest fat). Small amounts of lipase are produced in the stomach, but most of it is produced by the pancreas, and released into the duodenum by way of the common bile duct. But small amounts of lipase are also found in saliva.
As soon as we begin to anticipate eating (whether it's the smell of food, or the act of actually placing some of it in one's mouth), we begin to increase saliva production and the saliva also contains a small amount of lipase. The lipase in saliva is known as lingual lipase and it uses the catalysts aspartate, histidine, and serine to help digest fat by hydrolyzing long-chain triglycerides into partial glycerides and free fatty acids.
Histidine is used by the body to make histamine. The body uses histidine decarboxylase enzyme to convert histidine into histamine. When food is anticipated or ingested, histamine production is increased, and it is used to activate the parietal cells (in the stomach) to produce gastric acid which does most of the digestion that takes place in the stomach.
But as explained in the article at the following link, the ability of IBD patients to purge the body of leftover unused or unneeded histamine is commonly compromised, leading to a buildup of histamine in the body, resulting in a condition where the ingestion of certain foods can trigger common classic allergy symptoms.
How a chronic magnesium deficiency can cause inflammation, and how antibiotics can amplify the problem
Please be aware that the point of the cited article is a theory based on published medical research and it's strictly a theory, not proven medical fact. I hope that you find this explanation useful.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
You aren't alone with the drippy nose. I don't experience as much as I used to but now it serves as a clear indicator that I need to watch what I am eating when it happens. It's very annoying.
Deb
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2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
Sorry for the delayed response, everyone. Thanks for your insight. Sounds like the runny nose issue is not uncommon.
Tex - I'll continue to keep up withy my magnesium. Thanks for the very interesting information and blurb from your book.
Gabes - on your advice, I stopped eating ground turkey from the store and now eat only meats that have no additives (I have to go to a special meat store to get that meat). Also, the runny nose happens no matter where I eat.
I guess the last question outstanding is whether I should be taking an antihistamine in the hopes that it helps the MC issues. My review of comments on the issue suggests I should skip that step for now, but I of course welcome your thoughts. Thanks.
Tex - I'll continue to keep up withy my magnesium. Thanks for the very interesting information and blurb from your book.
Gabes - on your advice, I stopped eating ground turkey from the store and now eat only meats that have no additives (I have to go to a special meat store to get that meat). Also, the runny nose happens no matter where I eat.
I guess the last question outstanding is whether I should be taking an antihistamine in the hopes that it helps the MC issues. My review of comments on the issue suggests I should skip that step for now, but I of course welcome your thoughts. Thanks.
Personally, if the reaction also tends to cause an itchy rash or other irritating symptoms, I would take an antihistamine. For a short runny nose episode, I would probably skip it. It's a judgement call. 
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.