Hi All,
Anyone ever try any of these? I picked up a couple in the Peanut Butter version, almost a week ago, on my last visit to the local HF store, but so far I haven't gotten up the nerve to try a two ounce candy bar, (57 grams), that costs $2.95. They also had a Coconut something-or-other version, and a Brownie something flavor, if I remember correctly.
The ingredients listed on the label are egg white protenin, xylitol, organic peanut butter, water, arabic gum, organic agave, peanuts, organic crispy brown rice, natural flavoring, vanilla, and guar gum.
A banner on the wrapper proclaims: NO Dairy NO Hydrogenated Oils NO Artificial Sweeteners NO GLuten NO Casein NO Glycerin NO Maltitol NO Acesulfame-K NO Aspartame.
In another location on the wrapper, in large print, it notes that "This product is manufactured in a facility that uses peanuts, tree nuts, soy, dairy, wheat, and eggs.
I note that while there is a banner that says "Made with Organic Peanut Butter", the whole peanuts that are in the product, are apparently not organic, which, to me at least, seems a little misleading.
Since it specifically lists NO Gluten, I assume the natural flavoring is free of gluten, so I guess I'll try one later today, to see if it's worth $2.95. LOL.
Love,
Wayne
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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wayne,
Glad to see someone posting here!
I worry about the gums because they could be grown on corn, but you seem to be OK with corn now, right? Natural flavorings might be a problem for me too.
Let us know what you think.
I found some bean dips and salsas made by a company out your way; Desert Pepper Trading Company. They are very good and free of all of my intolerances. I think I got some gas from the bean dip, but that would happen to 'normal' people.
Love, Jean
Glad to see someone posting here!
I worry about the gums because they could be grown on corn, but you seem to be OK with corn now, right? Natural flavorings might be a problem for me too.
Let us know what you think.
I found some bean dips and salsas made by a company out your way; Desert Pepper Trading Company. They are very good and free of all of my intolerances. I think I got some gas from the bean dip, but that would happen to 'normal' people.
Love, Jean
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Jean,
You might be right, because the label does not specifically mention NO Corn. I wonder if some of the "natural flavoring" might come from corn, also.
I find that I can eat normal size servings of corn these days, (all I've tried so far are popcorn, tortilla chips, and Fritos), but it I pig out, it makes me feel bad. I don't, however, get D, or nausea, just sort of a bloated, cruddy feeling. It doesn't take a very large amout of Fritos to make me feel bad, but that could be due to all the oil in them.
I haven't noticed any Desert Pepper Trading Company products around here. I'll have to start keeping a lookout for them.
Love,
Wayne
You might be right, because the label does not specifically mention NO Corn. I wonder if some of the "natural flavoring" might come from corn, also.
I find that I can eat normal size servings of corn these days, (all I've tried so far are popcorn, tortilla chips, and Fritos), but it I pig out, it makes me feel bad. I don't, however, get D, or nausea, just sort of a bloated, cruddy feeling. It doesn't take a very large amout of Fritos to make me feel bad, but that could be due to all the oil in them.
I haven't noticed any Desert Pepper Trading Company products around here. I'll have to start keeping a lookout for them.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Here's hoping it's Wayne,
As you know, corn is not one of the allergens that has to be listed on food labels (darn). Interesting to hear that you're reacting to corn. Does that mean that you may still have to follow an intolerance diet? Are you reacting faster now that your blockage is gone?
Love, Jean
As you know, corn is not one of the allergens that has to be listed on food labels (darn). Interesting to hear that you're reacting to corn. Does that mean that you may still have to follow an intolerance diet? Are you reacting faster now that your blockage is gone?
Love, Jean
Be kind to everyone, because you never know what battles they are fighting.
Looks like an interesting combination but following my own perceptions I really do best by avoiding legumes of any kind. I have felt much better and had much more energy for the last three weeks by just eliminating one of my favorite vegetables, green beans, a legume . Peanuts are really not a nut but a legume that is considered to be an antinutreint by a number of experts who think they know what they are talking about. LOL Thought I would try it on for size and , for the moment , would agree with them.
I am not quite brave enough to try anything that is manufactured in a facility that also processes wheat , soy and peanuts, all that have been major problems for me in the past. Guess I am still prejudiced by Dr. Fine’s cautions about high protein energy bars.
Find that by eliminating high glycemic grains and vegetables and eating moderate meat protein, and lots of fruit and vegetables at every meal and ocasional nuts and seeds I don’t feel I need to snack as much as I did on the SAD diet that must have been responsible for the two hour spikes and drops of blood sugar that resulted in the mid morning and mid afternoon snacks for so many years.
Hope they work for you , we are all so different.
Love
Matthew
I am not quite brave enough to try anything that is manufactured in a facility that also processes wheat , soy and peanuts, all that have been major problems for me in the past. Guess I am still prejudiced by Dr. Fine’s cautions about high protein energy bars.
Find that by eliminating high glycemic grains and vegetables and eating moderate meat protein, and lots of fruit and vegetables at every meal and ocasional nuts and seeds I don’t feel I need to snack as much as I did on the SAD diet that must have been responsible for the two hour spikes and drops of blood sugar that resulted in the mid morning and mid afternoon snacks for so many years.
Hope they work for you , we are all so different.
Love
Matthew
Jean,
My reactions to corn are not very strong, but yes, they do occur sooner, now that you mention it. It takes something like four to eight hours for the effects to show up. The more I eat, the more noticable it is. That could just be a "grains in general are not good for you" effect, for all I know. I still eat it, but I have to resist the temptation to eat as much as I like. I don't notice the problem with rice, though.
Peanuts are the same way. A few don't seem to be a problem, but if I eat very many, I don't feel worth a hoot. I won't get D, but it's as if my digestive system has decided to go on strike for a while. Again, it could be some sort of antinutrient effect, as Matthew points out.
Love,
Wayne.
My reactions to corn are not very strong, but yes, they do occur sooner, now that you mention it. It takes something like four to eight hours for the effects to show up. The more I eat, the more noticable it is. That could just be a "grains in general are not good for you" effect, for all I know. I still eat it, but I have to resist the temptation to eat as much as I like. I don't notice the problem with rice, though.
Peanuts are the same way. A few don't seem to be a problem, but if I eat very many, I don't feel worth a hoot. I won't get D, but it's as if my digestive system has decided to go on strike for a while. Again, it could be some sort of antinutrient effect, as Matthew points out.
Love,
Wayne.
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wayne,
Well, was the protein bar worth the price? LOL!
Jean,
I agree - it's good to see some posts here!
Matthew,
I have also been avoiding legumes for several weeks now and notice a big difference. Especially in mental alertness and very sound and restful sleeping (not that sleeping has ever been a problem for me, luckily), and less gas. Also, you are so right about not having the hunger spikes. I didn't realize until very recently that green beans and sugar snap peas were legumes. I used to eat a lot of pea and bean soups, and I miss them a little in this cold weather. I have stopped eating peanuts for now, too, but am eating the tree nuts. I guess I am fully paleo now.
Love,
Polly
Well, was the protein bar worth the price? LOL!
Jean,
I agree - it's good to see some posts here!
Matthew,
I have also been avoiding legumes for several weeks now and notice a big difference. Especially in mental alertness and very sound and restful sleeping (not that sleeping has ever been a problem for me, luckily), and less gas. Also, you are so right about not having the hunger spikes. I didn't realize until very recently that green beans and sugar snap peas were legumes. I used to eat a lot of pea and bean soups, and I miss them a little in this cold weather. I have stopped eating peanuts for now, too, but am eating the tree nuts. I guess I am fully paleo now.
Love,
Polly
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Ok, here's the results of the "taste test" on that over-priced candy bar:
When I got about halfway through the bar, I got tired of ignoring the stale taste, and dug out the wrapper and read the manufacture date. It was May 20, 2005. No wonder it tasted stale. I figured what the hell, I'm half-way through, so there's no point in worrying about it now. Sooooooo, I ate the rest of it. LOL. My opinion: It was stale.
Ok, so I decided to try to salvage the test by eating the other bar at noon, today. It was dated December 13, 2005. That's more like it. Sure enough, it tasted more like a $2.95 candy bar.
It was relatively soft and moist, (so was the stale bar), and tasted very good. Since I can now eat Snickers, though, I probably won't be buying any more of them. If I were dairy and/or soy intolerant, though, I would probably go for them, as they taste great-- they're just a bit pricey.
Love,
Wayne
When I got about halfway through the bar, I got tired of ignoring the stale taste, and dug out the wrapper and read the manufacture date. It was May 20, 2005. No wonder it tasted stale. I figured what the hell, I'm half-way through, so there's no point in worrying about it now. Sooooooo, I ate the rest of it. LOL. My opinion: It was stale.
Ok, so I decided to try to salvage the test by eating the other bar at noon, today. It was dated December 13, 2005. That's more like it. Sure enough, it tasted more like a $2.95 candy bar.
It was relatively soft and moist, (so was the stale bar), and tasted very good. Since I can now eat Snickers, though, I probably won't be buying any more of them. If I were dairy and/or soy intolerant, though, I would probably go for them, as they taste great-- they're just a bit pricey.
Love,
Wayne
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Interesting about the protein bar, Wayne -
Does the protein come from the peanuts? Or did they add some other kind?
I eat roasted peanuts on a regular basis - they are so inexpensive and fun to shell while eating; also tasty. But perhaps I would be better off w/o them?
I am glad you, Matthew and Polly, are still finding ways to feel better after all this time figuring out your diet. I hope to find ways to fine tune mine that will improve quality of life too.
Polly, have you considered eating more of the butternut squash boxed soup from Pacific (or is it Imagine) now that you don't do the pea/bean soups anymore? I have discovered that I like the tomato soup and the butternut squash soups quite well - I heat a mug full in the microwave oven and drink it; can't beat the ease of preparation!! You all used to rave about these soups; now I have caught up with you - I love the soups. Of course I need to eat additional foods to get anywhere near full but it is a nice appetizer or afterthought.
Love,
Karen
Does the protein come from the peanuts? Or did they add some other kind?
I eat roasted peanuts on a regular basis - they are so inexpensive and fun to shell while eating; also tasty. But perhaps I would be better off w/o them?
I am glad you, Matthew and Polly, are still finding ways to feel better after all this time figuring out your diet. I hope to find ways to fine tune mine that will improve quality of life too.
Polly, have you considered eating more of the butternut squash boxed soup from Pacific (or is it Imagine) now that you don't do the pea/bean soups anymore? I have discovered that I like the tomato soup and the butternut squash soups quite well - I heat a mug full in the microwave oven and drink it; can't beat the ease of preparation!! You all used to rave about these soups; now I have caught up with you - I love the soups. Of course I need to eat additional foods to get anywhere near full but it is a nice appetizer or afterthought.
Love,
Karen
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Hi Karen,
Egg white protenin is the first item on the ingredient list, so I presume that means that it is a major ingredient. Peanuts are 27% protein. In fact, if you look at their attributes, in general, they are almost a "perfect" food, with no cholesterol, and they contain healthy oil, lots of vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, fiber, etc. Check this site:
http://peanutvan.com.au/nutrition.htm
Love,
Wayne
Egg white protenin is the first item on the ingredient list, so I presume that means that it is a major ingredient. Peanuts are 27% protein. In fact, if you look at their attributes, in general, they are almost a "perfect" food, with no cholesterol, and they contain healthy oil, lots of vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, fiber, etc. Check this site:
http://peanutvan.com.au/nutrition.htm
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Shirley,
You're right, of course. In fact, most fruits, and a heck of a lot of vegetables are also non-paleo. I doubt that our paleo ancestors ever ate a salad, unless they couldn't find any "more substantial food", and they were desperate to get something into their bellies. They ate what they could find, and presumably, many of the things that they ate are now modified by evolution, or extinct, so that in a sense, eating anything that we can find, that is unprocessed, and suitable, is a modern day version of the paleo diet. At least that's the way I see it. I'm sure everyone has her/his own opinion on this issue.
Love,
Wayne
You're right, of course. In fact, most fruits, and a heck of a lot of vegetables are also non-paleo. I doubt that our paleo ancestors ever ate a salad, unless they couldn't find any "more substantial food", and they were desperate to get something into their bellies. They ate what they could find, and presumably, many of the things that they ate are now modified by evolution, or extinct, so that in a sense, eating anything that we can find, that is unprocessed, and suitable, is a modern day version of the paleo diet. At least that's the way I see it. I'm sure everyone has her/his own opinion on this issue.
Love,
Wayne
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Hi Wayne and Shirley,
I think Wayne answered the question about peanuts not being Paleo very well. They are legumes and as such not allowed. However, I am not on the Paleo diet in order to punish myself; I am on it in order to get good nutrition while staying free of MC symptoms. For the most part I am orthodox about following the Paleo rules but I tweak and twist it to meet my taste and requirements. Of course, Matt and Polly's posts make me think that perhaps I too would be better off w/o the peanuts - who knows. I will only know if I try it, right?
Good link to nutritional info on peanuts, Wayne (it may be a little biased since it is posted by a peanut grower
). The protein content is one of the reasons I started eating them; another reason is that I rather like them. I eat unsalted roasted ones - or I eat Smucker's Natural Peanut Butter, the crunchy version, it is sooooo delicious.
Love,
Karen
I think Wayne answered the question about peanuts not being Paleo very well. They are legumes and as such not allowed. However, I am not on the Paleo diet in order to punish myself; I am on it in order to get good nutrition while staying free of MC symptoms. For the most part I am orthodox about following the Paleo rules but I tweak and twist it to meet my taste and requirements. Of course, Matt and Polly's posts make me think that perhaps I too would be better off w/o the peanuts - who knows. I will only know if I try it, right?
Good link to nutritional info on peanuts, Wayne (it may be a little biased since it is posted by a peanut grower
). The protein content is one of the reasons I started eating them; another reason is that I rather like them. I eat unsalted roasted ones - or I eat Smucker's Natural Peanut Butter, the crunchy version, it is sooooo delicious.Love,
Karen
Inspired by the paleolithic diet and lifestyle -
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.