Wayne, Gabes - another mag question

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Wayne, Gabes - another mag question

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I read recently that magnesium supplementation can increase GERD by relaxing the lower esophageal sphincter, much as it relaxes other muscles. Any thoughts? Thanks very much.
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That's incorrect, It helps the LES to work properly by relaxing it to stop it from spasming.

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and our muscles need magnesium to contract and work properly...
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My nighttime burning stomach and GERD symptoms went away once my magnesium was in the 600-700 mg range. That was not even on my radar as I had bigger fish I was trying to fry at the time.........but I was happy to see it go.
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Vanessa what did your Gerd feel like? Mine is heartburn after meals but mainly left sided chest pain all day. I'm beginning to think it's more anxiety related than anything else at this point.

How long did you have the burning stomach and GERD?

Did you use ReMag alone to get to 700 mg? On my latest labs my RBC was only 4.4 despite my Dr's Best Magnesium of 600mg plus topical spray and foot soaks. Now that I've upped my Vitamin D to 4000 mg daily I hope it's rising.
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Hey Suzy,

I had GERD for a good 2 years. My stomach would burn when I laid down to sleep. Then I had this weird anomaly when I started to eat food, I would get burning behind my breast plate. It would go away within 10 minutes of starting to eat, but was bothersome. I started adding Betaine HCl with Pepsin which helped for awhile, but only minimally so I just gave up on it.


I started the ReMag very slowly. It took me a good 5 months to get up to 600 mg. I still took my Dr. Best and topical as I slowly incorporated the ReMag. I went slow and stayed consistent. I was so miserable in my symptoms that I persisted past all of the little niggly contrasts that can go on when first starting ReMag. It is so super absorbable, that it can rev up your body and cause you to feel "different" at first before your cells get used to what they've been crying out for!

I had so many symptoms of mag deficiency that I almost started to believe I WAS crazy like the Dr. ended up telling me! I carried around an epi pen for god sakes! I thought my throat was going to close any second. I couldn't take in deep breaths, I felt I was going to faint all of the time just to name a small few. I knew it wasn't anxiety because I wasn't anxious until the symptoms showed up, then I would get nervous. But then I got so used to them, I just knew, oh there they are again.. How yall doin'? I look back on it now and I must've had no less than 30 things associated with magnesium...... :roll:
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Wow Vanessa thanks for that info. Very encouraging. Do you think I should just start with 1 drop of ReMag in about 24 oz water? Do you think your GERD was caused by low mag? Did you ever go on a PPI for it? Did you ever get an endoscopy? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks again.
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My GERD was absolutely caused by low mag, I just didn't know it at the time. I almost had an endoscopy but backed out because by then I was very disgruntled with the medical community. I took Zantac when it was unbearable to see if it would help, it did not. I knew most people had low stomach acid causing GERD symptoms and would never go on a PPI making my MC worse....

If you are on a lot of meds or feel you are toxic, then starting with one drop of ReMag may be necessary. I started with 1/4 teaspoon and had to back down to 1/8 teaspoon measured out with a baby medicine dropper. Once I got up to 1 teaspoon of ReMag I started slowly adding the ReMyte. You can also spray on the skin. Get on Dr. Dean's site and see what you think. Read "when magnesium makes you worse". Just things to think about if contrast pops up. It's short lived and the benefits far outweigh the ick feeling you may get at first....please feel free to ask me as many questions as you want!
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Thanks so much Vanessa. Did you mean spray on the skin the ReMag or the ReMyte?

I too am disgruntled with the medical community because they got me into this mess by putting me on a PPI for gastritis, which then gave me heartburn and chest pain. It seems the only thing in my GI's bag of tricks is invasive procedures (ie endoscopies, manometry's) or horrific drugs (PPIs).

How long did it take with the magnesium therapy until your gerd went away (what level of mag RBC did you need to get to)?
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Hi again Vanessa. I just read through the article your suggested from Dr Dean.

When she says: "you can begin with 5-10 drops a day and take it with food" does she mean drop it on food or drink a few drops in a small amount of water with a meal?

About vitamin D, she says: "That means if you take the extremely high doses that allopathic doctors are now recommending you can plummet into magnesium deficiency and not know what the heck is happening. In general, I don’t recommend more than 1,000-2,000 IU of Vitamin D daily for this reason. And never take Vitamin D without magnesium."

I'm taking 4000 IU of vitamin D a day because I was a little low. Do you stick to 1000-2000?

About calcium she says: "You are taking high doses of magnesium and not getting enough calcium in your diet. I talk about the need to balance magnesium and calcium by supplementing with about 700 mg of magnesium and getting 700 mg of calcium in your diet. However many people are on a dairy-free diet and just don’t get enough calcium."

I eat no dairy but do drink almond milk occasionally. Do you take a calcium supplement? I thought they weren't ideal to take.

Sort of confuse. Thank you! :)
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Yes there is a lot of stuff to sift through. If you drink almond milk you are good to go. I do bone broth and broccoli so I definitely do not take extra calcium. You can spray both ReMag and ReMyte on the skin. Many people with thyroid conditions spray directly on the throat (ReMyte has minerals to support your adrenals, sex glands, and the thyroid). You can put drops of ReMag on food but I would just get in the habit of putting it in your water. Make sure you are drinking half your body weight in ounces of H20 a day. I put a 1/4 of a teaspoon of pink himalayan salt per 1 liter of H20 of water. There are 72 trace minerals found in sea salt that are beneficial. A lot of people can't hack this step but it was crucial for me. The idea is the salt pulls the water into the cells behind it.....I would drink and drink and still feel dry before I did this. I feel spraying mag on the skin is good but orally is best to start healing....

The Vit D thing. She is talking about the synthetic D2 not D3. I have a SNP in my DNA that causes me to have to take 10,000 IUs a day to keep my level in the 60 range even in the summer. I've had no problems doing this. I think Dr. Dean is cautious about Vit D because she has had a few clients not do well on high doses. We are all different and I think she wants everyone to have informed consent. Tex has a way better understanding of how Vit D and Mag interplay with each other. I think you will be just fine on the dose you are at, especially if you are getting used to the ReMag slowly.

I never took the Mag RBC test because my symptoms let me know pretty quickly if I've dipped down and I need a little extra. I get heart skips/palps so I'll take an extra 1/4 teaspoon of ReMag in a quick shot at night. 15 min. and my heart calms down, off to dreamland. Usually this is before ovulation and my period. Hormones can play a role in not absorbing your Mag or the body needs a little extra during those times.
That test is just a guide. A lot of magnesium is stored in the muscles and other parts of the body besides the red blood cells. People's RBC Mag test have actually gone down after they start taking the ReMag. They will feel better but the number decreases. Probably because the mag is in other parts of the body where it is needed most at that time.

I listen to the weekly radio show Dr. Dean has. You can actually call in and talk to her.....I'm a huge geek. But when something has saved your life (besides this group of people) you tend to be a huge fan!
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