Some new food challenges since diagnosed with diabetes.

renee2 · Post by **renee2** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:05 am

Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to share a message of hope, gratitude, and ask a question about diabetes diet and how that may effect LC.
I have been in remission since the end of my first treatment, with pepto bismal, since July. I followed the diet suggestions recommended here and credit those, more than anything else, with my success. Thanks to all of you who offered me so much support in the beginning. Though the LC is in remission, I've been diagnosed with diabetes and now I'm concerned the diet I need to manage that disease will cause a flare up with LC. In the beginning of LC I stuck to a diet that was high in carbs, but all I could handle at the time. Before I found out about diabetes I had already successful, but slowly, added raw vegetables to my diet. I was, and still am, avoiding most breads. The problem is the diet I need for the diabetes is in direct conflict from the LC diet. For diabetes, I need to avoid foods high in carbs. They teach you to use the plate method. Your to divide the plate in three sections. One section should be carbs (300), 1/4 of your plate, the other 1/4th should be fruit, and 1/2, the largest section, should be vegetables. Too many carbs and my sugars rise. I've done well with this so far, but fear this may trigger LC.
The other thing that has happened is I had a spinal fusion for a compressed nerve and a fractured back. I had to have some steroid injections, take NSAID'S, and after the surgery developed an infection at the wound site that required me to be on high doses of antibiotics. I retained remission though out those procedures, too. I'm no longer requiring narcotics for the pain, but if I didn't have LC NSAIDS would be most helpful. Instead I take ultram, which I don't want to continue long-term, but it is my safest choice. Have any of you had success with topical NSAID'S? If so which ones?
Those six months, or so, of intense LC symptoms is something I do not want to go through again, so I'm just thinking ahead this time.
I'm going to go back and read some of your stories now. I got very consumed with the back treatment, but hope some of you reached remission, too.

Vanessa · Post by **Vanessa** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:17 am

Hey Renee,

Sorry about your new diagnosis. The eating plan for MC is actually very conducive to a low carb eating plan for a diabetic. Eating mostly protein provided it has enough fat, is actually the best way to heal our gut. I wouldn't worry about dividing your plate with fruit and so on. We have a member here who literally ate just meat and coconut oil for a very long time until she could add cooked greens. She also corrected her blood sugar this way. But baby steps if you've been eating high carb.....

Are you taking a good Magnesium supplement? Vit D3? Magnesium has been shown to improve insulin resistance or sensitivity. Tex's book on Pancreatic Cancer goes into detail on this...

Vanessa · Post by **Vanessa** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:19 am

Hey Renee,

I just read your other post about not tolerating mag.....Can you do topical? I would really put the hammer down on trying to do as many Epsom salts baths and or foot soaks, lotion, or oil if possible. I don't know what your calcium situation is, but supplementing it without proper mag intake might not be the best idea. If possible a good bone broth intake would give good calcium as well as broccoli, etc. I apologize if you have visited these ideas already....keep us posted....

Post by **tex** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:35 pm

Hi Renee,

I'm sorry to hear that you've had to deal with so much, but it's good to hear that you're getting things back under control.

I have no idea where your doctor got the idea that topical magnesium causes diarrhea, but that's simply not true (except possibly in rare cases). That might be possible with topically-applied magnesium oxide (which is little more than a laxative), but no one in her or his right mind (other than hospital staff who have to use what the hospitals supply) would be likely to use magnesium oxide topically or any other way. In the real world, diarrhea as a result of topically-applied magnesium occurs so rarely that for all practical purposes, the risk can be disregarded for most people.

Your doctor's misguided advice to avoid even topically-applied magnesium is almost surely the reason why your blood sugar became elevated and progressed to frank diabetes. IMO magnesium deficiency is the number one cause of type 2 diabetes, and there is plenty of published research to back up that claim.

Vanessa's suggestions are right on target, IMO. If you want to read the reasons why magnesium deficiency leads to insulin resistance and diabetes, you can download a digital copy of that book (free) at the link below. Chapters 2 and 3 contain the information about magnesium deficiency and it's association with type 2 diabetes that she is referring to.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/665808

And as she mentioned, treating MC and diabetes by diet works well. Many other members here are doing that. Carbs are contraindicated for optimal treatment of MC, also.

Tex

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:40 pm

Renee
I am 200% in agreement with Tex about this

Your doctor's misguided advice to avoid even topically-applied magnesium is almost surely the reason why your blood sugar became elevated and progressed to frank diabetes. IMO magnesium deficiency is the number one cause of type 2 diabetes, and there is plenty of published research to back up that claim.

I know that you tried magnesium and didnt think it agreed with you, have you read this post about why when you start magnesium it can make you feel worse
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19921

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:30 pm

This article may help appease your concerns about using topical magnesium
http://it-takes-time.com/2015/06/29/tra ... magnesium/

and some well researched articles about diabetes and magnesium
http://drsircus.com/diabetes/

hope this helps

JFR · Post by **JFR** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:41 am

I am the person who eats a low carb diet and normalized my blood sugar. Like so much else in western medicine, the conventional advice given about treating diabetes, especially about diet, is in fact wrong. The best website I know of to learn about how to treat diabetes by eating a low carb diet is www.dietdoctor.com. Also check out this talk by Sarah Halberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1vvigy5tQ. There is also Dr Eric Westman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMizC6sQ6w. Plus there is Dr Richard Bernstein who has a book "Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution" and a series of YouTube videos entitled Dr Bernstein's Diabetes University. Also check out Dr Jason Fung: https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/ ... re-series/

A low carb diet for diabetes can absolutely be compatible with an MC diet. What conventional medicine calls a low carb diet is actually not very low carb at all.

Jean

MCT · Post by **MCT** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:09 pm

Hi Renee,
Have you seen any of Dr Fungs utube videos? He is a MD treating type 2 with low carb and fasting. I've enjoyed all his stuff. He has a clinic in Canada with over a year weight list.