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Corticotrophin-releasing hormone - Tex? Anyone??

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This caught my eye and I wondered if our protocol of VitD and Mag is helping to regulate this particular hormone better? If so I hope it starts soon. I get a couple hits of light head/hot flush/almost pass out feelings but attribute it to menopause as it has been 2 years now menses free but still get awkward feeling intense moments. I hate the prickly skin feel after the few moment flush has passed and it all but drains me for a few minutes and then I feel better again.

I seem to notice this more since I've had a strained left arm for a month now...the pain from pushing or pulling on something that I thought I could handle causes such immediate pain I am not sure if this hormone is being released and making things worse or what? I'm about to drive myself crazy wondering if I need to get a cortisone shot like I did in 2011 for my right arm, but that was a 2-3 dr office process that I'm not looking forward to. :-(


Corticotrophin-releasing hormone is the main element that drives the body’s response to stress. It is also present in diseases which cause inflammation. Too much or too little corticotrophin-releasing hormone can have a range of negative effects.

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Erica,

Check out this old thread (it's also in the book):

Issues related to stress

The active form of vitamin D is a hormone and I'm sure that magnesium is directly involved in stress processing. Remember that magnesium is very relaxing, in general. Magnesium regulates over 300 biochemical processes in the human body.

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Wow Tex...I think it is time I re-read your book again.... :oops:

Apparently it is time to refocus on some relaxation techniques again....

Thank you so much for the info :grin: It makes sense....my busy body 'literally' is getting the best of me for no better way to describe it.
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Tex,
If magnesium is so relaxing, could it contribute to my fatigue? Would it be better to drink my ReMag water in the evening? I didn't have this fatigue until I started the magnesium, now that I look back.

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Susan,

I doubt that magnesium is causing your fatigue, but you may interpret it as contributing to fatigue. Magnesium relaxes muscles — you might interpret muscle relaxation as fatigue. Magnesium lowers blood pressure. You might interpret that as fatigue because we seem to have less energy when we have lower blood pressure. But those are not major effects and you wouldn't be likely to be complaining about those effects. So something else is probably happening to your energy.

When I had chronic magnesium deficiency, I didn't have much endurance. I fatigued easily. Of course recently, the stroke has destroyed my energy, but prior to that, I was much more energetic than I was when I was chronically magnesium deficient.

Most likely you're having some sort of adverse reaction to the ReMag that diminishes your energy. Since your symptoms began when you started taking the ReMag, it's clearly implicated in your loss of energy. ReMag is not conventional magnesium. Maybe something in the ReMag other than magnesium, or something in the way that the magnesium is being administered is affecting your energy level. More than a few people are finding that if they don't use ReMag according to directions (start very slowly) they are having various problems. Some are having problems even when they are doing everything according to directions. Fatigue could easily be one of those problems. But regarding the elemental magnesium itself, fatigue is not a normal reaction to supplemental magnesium. Magnesium treats fatigue.

But this is just my opinion.

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Thanks, Tex.
If I were to experiment and try a different magnesium (pre MC, I took magnesium oxide, I think it was, for constipation and it helped loosen me up. Ha! Pretty. funny post MC.) which kind would be best, one that would not have a laxative effect?

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Hey Susan,
IMO, the ReMag is a better absorbed form of Magnesium which can contribute to better detox. You may feel a little worse before you feel better. In the long run the only thing that fixed my chronic fatigue symptoms was the ReMag. But I stuck it out long enough to reap the benefits. I wouldn't give up on it totally just yet. You may want to read Carolyn Dean's When Magnesium makes you worse.....hope this helps.

You can also put your ReMag in a spray bottle and use it topically, which would have no laxative effect. I never had loose stools from using it orally myself. Many people here use Dr.s Best chelated Magnesium Glycinate. Epsom salts foot soaks and baths are also a good topical option. :bashful:
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ReMag is absorbed too well (for many people). That's why they can have trouble with it. It can take a while for the body to learn how to move the magnesium from the blood into storage. That's why you can feel bad sometimes while using it. ReMag is great if you know what you're doing and you use it correctly. The problem is that magnesium is a vital electrolyte and it's blood level is carefully regulated by the body. If your body can't use it out of your blood fast enough, your kidneys have to take out the excess. This can overwork the kidneys if their function is below par. That can result in a dangerous excess of magnesium in the blood that can lead to adverse symptoms and even cardiac arrest in severe cases.

Magnesium oxide is a laxative because we can't absorb it so it stays in our intestines to promote motility. That might sound counterintuitive, but when electrolytes cannot be absorbed, they promote D. Try chelated magnesium (magnesium glycinate). It's the form of magnesium that's the least likely to cause D. It's magnesium bonded with an amino acid (glycine), so that it's easily absorbed.

Most members who take oral magnesium supplements take Doctor's Best brand of magnesium glycinate. The front label on the bottle says 200 mg, but that's per "serving". The back label says the "serving" size is 2 tablets. So each tablet contains 100 mg of actual (elemental) magnesium.

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Thanks Vanessa and Tex.

I'll have to make a decision. I will either stick with the ReMag, as you suggest, Vanessa, or try the Doctor's Best magnesium glycinate. I'm really fighting fatigue which I didn't have before. After a good nights sleep, I get up for a while and often just want to crash on the couch. It's hard to be productive even doing simple things. We have kids and grandkids coming in early July and I am dreading being so drained as we want to go river rafting and other activities.

I worked up slowly to 600 mg of ReMag and drink it in water with Himalayan sea salt, throughout the day.

Thanks again,

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I also feel like people only post when they have contrast or questions about a particular regime. Who knows how many have actually really benefitted from the ReMag. So updates on progress is always good!
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Hi Susan,

I had the fatigue you are describing pre MC diagnosis and then even after starting the stage one and getting the magnesium and VitD protocol going. It took a good stretch of time of ups and downs in energy if I recall to get to a new normal of energy, which is fairly decent now days, but I put myself immediately of high dose Magnesium 800 or so for a good part of 2015 it seems like 8 months rings a bell for me to start seeing a difference.

Everyone is different and it all depends on how you jump right in and just start implementing the process of healing, be it diet, supplements, meditation, getting proper rest when your body says to do it....etc. you may need the B's vitamins at this point too in combo with the D and Mag...

I take my Mag in various ways, KAL 200mg, Drs Best 100mg, Lifeflo spray oil and lotion, PatchMD and also ReMag here an there....I do it ALL. I am trying to maintain around 600mg a day since my VitD levels are in the low 80's I want my VitD to function at it optimal best :grin:

It also sounds like you may need to eat protein often (includes bone broths), maintain blood glucose levels. If you get tired after rising in the morning your Adrenals are not working at their best, so be kind to yourself, eat well, sleep well, get good helpings of VitD, Mag and Vit B's and don't try to overdo in anything that you do right now....when it comes time for grands to come visit, you will be at your best for this year and I hope you can be at peace with that, by this time next year you will be in a much better energy state. Enjoy every moment that you can...and take a nap when you need to ;-)

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Susan wrote:After a good nights sleep, I get up for a while and often just want to crash on the couch. It's hard to be productive even doing simple things.
That's the way I feel these days. Maybe you had a stroke. :lol:

Seriously, fatigue is probably the most common symptom of MC, second to D. Most mornings back when I was recovering, when I dragged out of bed I felt as though I had been hit by a truck during the night. That's no joke.

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Thanks to all. I read every new insight and older ones, too.

Tex, too funny!

I ordered Doctor's Best magnesium glycinate and will try that instead of the ReMag. I also ordered a multi vitamin without iron or iodine since I have trouble with those and it contains no gluten, dairy, soy, eggs, etc. I'll wait to take it but want one when I am ready.

My homemade bone broth I drink every day and do eat good protein and some veggies. I will try to eat more in the morning. Good point, Erica.

Strange: I had diarrhea Sunday and Monday so I took one Imodium on Tuesday morning (hadn't had a BM but took it) as I had a work situation where I had to be in and out of my car a lot. No BM Tuesday or Wednesday. Thursday and Friday, non-urgent almost forced normal BMs mid morning. Waiting to see when D will come around the corner and say "Boo!"

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