I'm sure this has been covered extensively here but I'm such a dork at searching the site, so please bear with me.
Since I joined the site, my dinner has almost exclusively been rice cooked in bone broth and mixed with ground pork.
Now that I got my Enterolab results, rice is among the foods I'm reactive to (14 units mean value of the 11 antigenic foods).
Of the grains, I'm most reactive to oat, then rice and least reactive to corn.
I've been doing really well and I truly thought that the bone broth had a big part in that. But do I now have to eliminate rice? And if so, I need another way to get the bone broth in me. There is NO way I can just drink it as is. I get nauseous just thinking about it!
Any ideas are most appreciated.
Seeking ideas for bone broth intake
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Gabes-Apg
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my daily intake of bone broth is via the following;
- cooking safe vegetables in it
- making soup / stew / casseroles with protein and safe veges
I have a serving of soupy stew for breakfast and dinner
lunch is safe protein and the safe veges cooked in bone broth.
as I no longer have histamine issues, I cook chicken in the bone broth (which was made from Lamb) once chicken is cooked, I take it out then cook the veges in the same broth, once cooked take these out.
my lunch is reheated chicken and veges. (both were cooked in the broth)
- cooking safe vegetables in it
- making soup / stew / casseroles with protein and safe veges
I have a serving of soupy stew for breakfast and dinner
lunch is safe protein and the safe veges cooked in bone broth.
as I no longer have histamine issues, I cook chicken in the bone broth (which was made from Lamb) once chicken is cooked, I take it out then cook the veges in the same broth, once cooked take these out.
my lunch is reheated chicken and veges. (both were cooked in the broth)
Gabes Ryan
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Dalai Lama
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Gabes-Apg
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as Rice came up as a nogo on your testing then I would start to try some peeled well cooked veges - one at a time
another option would be to make soup/ stew with bone broth and safe protein and use a bit of organic maize flour (as corn is you safest grain)
but I think that having something like sweet potato or carrots, or peeled squash (well cooked) is a better option, as the veges have more nutritional benefit and will provide you with some energy and key things like Vit C.
start with small serve one day, wait 24 hours and then have another small serve etc. if after the 3rd day there are no noticeable symptoms that vege is a keeper! wait a week and then maybe try another.
Part of why I like having the soupy stew for breakfast is that the veges in it give me lots of energy for the work day and the good serve of protein first up makes a huge difference to my day.
another option would be to make soup/ stew with bone broth and safe protein and use a bit of organic maize flour (as corn is you safest grain)
but I think that having something like sweet potato or carrots, or peeled squash (well cooked) is a better option, as the veges have more nutritional benefit and will provide you with some energy and key things like Vit C.
start with small serve one day, wait 24 hours and then have another small serve etc. if after the 3rd day there are no noticeable symptoms that vege is a keeper! wait a week and then maybe try another.
Part of why I like having the soupy stew for breakfast is that the veges in it give me lots of energy for the work day and the good serve of protein first up makes a huge difference to my day.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Susanne,
Being from Louisiana, you may not be as well acquainted with grits, as Southeners living east of you are, but grits might be an option. I would think that they could be cooked in bone broth, and corn grits are often even eaten for breakfast in some parts of the South. I recall having bacon and eggs and grits for breakfast in Florida a few years ago when I went there to pick up a truck. Grits would appear to me to be a pretty good substitute for rice.
Tex
Being from Louisiana, you may not be as well acquainted with grits, as Southeners living east of you are, but grits might be an option. I would think that they could be cooked in bone broth, and corn grits are often even eaten for breakfast in some parts of the South. I recall having bacon and eggs and grits for breakfast in Florida a few years ago when I went there to pick up a truck. Grits would appear to me to be a pretty good substitute for rice.
Tex
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Thank you both! Great ideas!
Tex, all restaurants here that are open for breakfast serve grits! I never found it too interesting but it's definitely doable. I'm not from here - I'm actually from Denmark, but I've lived here long enough to appreciate the local cuisine. I seem to recall it was on most menus too when I lived in Houston.
Gabes - when you say peeled veggies, is that because most of the fiber is in the skin? Or something else?
How about cauliflower? It's become quite popular in Denmark as an alternative to white rice. They just grate it and cook it briefly. They use it to make pizza crusts too.
Tex, all restaurants here that are open for breakfast serve grits! I never found it too interesting but it's definitely doable. I'm not from here - I'm actually from Denmark, but I've lived here long enough to appreciate the local cuisine. I seem to recall it was on most menus too when I lived in Houston.
Gabes - when you say peeled veggies, is that because most of the fiber is in the skin? Or something else?
How about cauliflower? It's become quite popular in Denmark as an alternative to white rice. They just grate it and cook it briefly. They use it to make pizza crusts too.
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Gabes-Apg
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I use lots of cauliflower - yes you can puree it in a blender and use it as a rice replacement
I peel veges for a few reasons - a) yes the fibre
b) any pesticides/chemicals etc
c) some veges can be sprayed with soy oil to help the items last longer for transport and shelf life in air conditioned shops etc. Even organic vegetables (they use organic soy) as I react to soy worse than gluten I peel all veges
(the sheep and chooks on the farm where I live LOVE my cook up days when I take out big bucket of vege scraps and peelings)
I peel veges for a few reasons - a) yes the fibre
b) any pesticides/chemicals etc
c) some veges can be sprayed with soy oil to help the items last longer for transport and shelf life in air conditioned shops etc. Even organic vegetables (they use organic soy) as I react to soy worse than gluten I peel all veges
(the sheep and chooks on the farm where I live LOVE my cook up days when I take out big bucket of vege scraps and peelings)
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Thanks, Gabes. A lot of information I didn't know about, especially about the organic vegetables which we buy whenever possible.
Chooks - is that chickens? I bet they enjoy your goodies!
I'm definitely getting grits to replace rice but I also want to try the cauliflower. I've always loved it.
I hope one day I'll have enough experience to help others on here like you guys are always doing. I feel bad for only posting when I need help!
Chooks - is that chickens? I bet they enjoy your goodies!
I'm definitely getting grits to replace rice but I also want to try the cauliflower. I've always loved it.
I hope one day I'll have enough experience to help others on here like you guys are always doing. I feel bad for only posting when I need help!
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Gabes-Apg
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yes Chook /Chooks is aussie lingo for Chickens.
I have two sheep of the group of 14 that will eat the vege peelings/scraps from my hand.
when I go into the paddock with the bucket, all the sheep and all the chooks come running! it is funny to watch.
going forward, the best thing anyone can do is do what you are doing, ask questions - as many people view these discussions but don't always comment etc
and when things improve, put a post in the success stories area sharing what worked, what didn't, how long it took to see improvements etc.
have fun experimenting with the grits and cauliflower. remember to start slow, small amounts and increase gradually etc..
I have two sheep of the group of 14 that will eat the vege peelings/scraps from my hand.
when I go into the paddock with the bucket, all the sheep and all the chooks come running! it is funny to watch.
going forward, the best thing anyone can do is do what you are doing, ask questions - as many people view these discussions but don't always comment etc
and when things improve, put a post in the success stories area sharing what worked, what didn't, how long it took to see improvements etc.
have fun experimenting with the grits and cauliflower. remember to start slow, small amounts and increase gradually etc..
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Susanne,
I would not recommend this for newbies as it may have too much fat but it works for me....This is the Sicilian way to enjoy soups/broths. The olive oil adds a better flavor profile.
1 cup Pacific organic bone broth (available most groceries)--9 GRAM PROTEIN
optional 2 heaping Tablespoons Great Lakes Gelatin in green can--12 GRAM PROTEIN
optional generous drizzle of California Extra Virgin Olive Oil (in green bottle, California brand)
Homemade bone broth is better for a lot of reasons but I typically used boxed. I put the bone broth in micro for 2 minutes on high. The gelatin does not add any flavor, I use it for extra protein only. I mix the 2 Tablespoons of gelatin into the heated bone broth. I generously drizzle the heated bone broth with olive oil, drink, and enjoy.
I would not recommend this for newbies as it may have too much fat but it works for me....This is the Sicilian way to enjoy soups/broths. The olive oil adds a better flavor profile.
1 cup Pacific organic bone broth (available most groceries)--9 GRAM PROTEIN
optional 2 heaping Tablespoons Great Lakes Gelatin in green can--12 GRAM PROTEIN
optional generous drizzle of California Extra Virgin Olive Oil (in green bottle, California brand)
Homemade bone broth is better for a lot of reasons but I typically used boxed. I put the bone broth in micro for 2 minutes on high. The gelatin does not add any flavor, I use it for extra protein only. I mix the 2 Tablespoons of gelatin into the heated bone broth. I generously drizzle the heated bone broth with olive oil, drink, and enjoy.
