How to get protein in a full liquid diet when allergic

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:58 pm

Dear Fellow MCers,

I am on a full liquid diet and thanks to Dr. Fine's help have been symptom free until now when another condition involving an infection and antibiotics which causes D itself and which required me to be first on clear liquids for 4 days and now on a full liquid diet.

I need protein. However I am lactose intolerant (no creamy soups or ice cream or milkshakes), beef sensitivity (so no gelatin), egg intolerant (so no ice cream or milkshakes). I also have type 2 diabetes and am getting dextrose in my IV packaged with one antibiotic so drinking juices is not wise either. I have other sensitivities which don't apply directly to FLD: soy, corn, walnuts, oats, gluten, barley. Also don't do well with MSG, preservatives, etc.

Clear broth has only one or two grams of protein per cup.

I don't cook and don't feel well and don't trust other nonMCers to be as careful making something for me simply due to their unawareness. I have plenty of sweet shoppers who will "go get" whatever will help.

Any recommendations please?

Best, Misty

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:12 pm

I dont think there are any MC safe commercially available options based on the criteria/limitations you have

my only suggestion is to make broth on other meats - lamb, turkey, duck, etc, if you use meaty cuts of the meats this will increase the protein level

(as i type this I have lamb shanks and a duck carcass bubbling away for my latest batch of bone broth)

In Australia, some gourmet eateries will have bone broth made on other meats in their freezer section, but ensuring that is MC safe with no other ingredients, or made in MC safe kitchen can not be guaranteed.

Hope things improve for you soon

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:15 pm

Gabes, you are so dear!!! What a great idea and because I don't cook, didn't even know how this is done. But my friends will. I shall write immediately and am encouraged! Thanks so much for your quick reply too. Best, Misty

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:23 pm

use the joint bones of any safe meat source or cooked carcass of poultry etc

very simple....
big pot, salt, water, bones. boil for 3 hours. (this minimises histamine issues) freeze into small portions. reheat before consuming

some use apple cider vinegar to help draw out goodness from the bones, (I dont)
if you bake the bones first this will increase mineral/amino acid content of the broth. (bake at high temp for an hour or so)

as you progress into your recovery eating plan, using the bone broth to cook rice or cook vegetables is good way to enhance gut healing etc.

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:40 pm

Gabes, Thank you for for directions! Were you saying in first one that you would also suggest cooking the meaty fatty part as well as the bones to get more protein? If so, when and how would that fit in please? I just want to give my FF good directions. I will be able to take over cooking in a bit hopefully but not just yet...Many thanks, Misty

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:44 pm

For example do you take all the meat off the bones to bake it for an hour? Sorry, really primitive in cooking department...

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:47 pm

as lamb is readily available in Aus - i use lamb shanks for my broth, the shanks come with some meat on them.
some options for you - using leg quarters of chicken (with meat on)
smaller birds like quail, duck etc given your current situation, i would use the whole bird

depending on what meats you have readily available near where you live and what bones are available - neck pieces, fleshy ribs,

If there is an actual butcher that is accessible, if you phone them they may be able to sell you suitable bone pieces with meat

hope this helps

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:52 pm

wholefoods in the USA have this...
something like this would be ideal

https://www.instacart.com/whole-foods/p ... ment_id=95

https://www.instacart.com/whole-foods/p ... ment_id=95

WhirledPeas · Post by **WhirledPeas** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:17 am

The Instacart links no longer work it seems and just takes you to their main page. I tried a frozen beef bone broth from whole foods which was $10 and it was absolutely horrific. The brand name was Bonafide Provisions. When I have the energy I will be returning it. Too bad I didn't keep the first defrosted bag so I could return that too.

Post by **tex** » Sat May 27, 2017 8:00 am

There are a lot of links in the archives that don't work. This thread is almost a year old. We don't prune old posts. We still have the original posts from when we started in 2005. So naturally a lot of links no longer work.

Tex

skp · Post by **skp** » Sat May 27, 2017 3:23 pm

I buy bones from Whole Foods where I live. They are sold in a bag, several bones in each bag. They aren't cheap but I make a large batch in two slow cookers (one cooker bigger than the other) and freeze them in smaller containers. That amount lasts me for some time. The bones are often beef but I have found lamb bones, too and some bags contain bones with more marrow and neck bones, etc. The bones usually have a small amount of meat left on them. I do usually cook the bones first at 450 degrees for thirty minutes. That makes an oven mess as they spatter so I now tent the bones with aluminum foil. When making the bone broth, salt is a must. You can always add more later but I do start with an ample dose. It never turns out tasting too salty and at times I have to add more.

Isn't it crazy that bones are now expensive when they used to be thrown away!

Susan

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:33 pm

Susan has provided response pretty much what I would say...

bones may appear expensive, but the healing goodness home made bone broth can provide is worth the outlay.

water, salt and meat bones only- you can add in veges when you prepare meals.

Over Achiever · Post by **Over Achiever** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:34 pm

I am also on a liquid only diet right now. My doctor has me using Ancient Nutrition Bone Broth Protein it has 20g protein in one scoop. The one I have is made from chicken and tastes like chocolate. They have many flavors. (I'm not a bit chocolate fan and would have preferred plain but they were out.) Anyway it tastes fine and I'm get my protein now. (Smells awful though, I have to put it in a cup with a lid and use a straw.)

Post by **tex** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:17 am

Hi,

Welcome to our Internet family of ex over-achievers who are rehabilitating and learning how to shift down a gear or two. Stress is a major factor in the activation of MC, so learning how to control it is a major part of recovering from the disease.

We're glad you joined us and feel free to ask anything.

Tex