I can't find it now but I think in the last few days someone on here asked what the time is to get results from Enterolab. I believe the answer given was about 3 weeks, but I am here to delightedly tell you that they must be really ramping up their efforts because I got mine back in FOUR DAYS!!!!! I mailed my sample Wednesday, they received it Thursday, and today, I got my results! Less than a week - I am so excited!
Sue
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Turn-Around Time for Enterolab Testing!!!!
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
That was fast!What would be the best way to share them? Capture the pages as .jpgs? Do I have to save them to some photo-hosting website first?Gabes-Apg wrote:and what were the results??
Sue
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
If you can copy the text, you can paste it directly into a post. JPGs have to be uploaded to a hosting website (postimage.com).
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I just checked the Enterolab website to see if they had a test for fruit/fructose but I didn't see anything..... did I miss it or does that test not exist? I figured while they still have my sample this would be the time to order it. They e-mailed me today asking if I wanted to do the intestinal mal-absorption test. I told them to do it... what the heck.... might as well hear all they've got to tell me, right?
Sue
Sue
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Sue,
You can only be sensitive to (produce antibodies in response to) proteins. Sugars cannot produce sensitivities, with one exception known as alpha-gal, explained in this old thread. However, fruit and fructose affect us negatively in two ways, fruit has a high fiber content, and most of us have a low capacity for fructose when our gut is inflamed. IOW we can't digest it very well when our gut is inflamed. Also be aware that at least six types of pancreatic cancer can only reproduce and spread when they have fructose available as fuel. Unlike sucrose and other sugars, fructose does not produce an insulin response, so our bodies can't burn it as energy. The net result is that it is stored as brown fat.
Bottom line — fruit is not nearly as good for us as is claimed by many. Except for bananas, I haven't eaten any fruit in probably close to ten years.
Tex
You can only be sensitive to (produce antibodies in response to) proteins. Sugars cannot produce sensitivities, with one exception known as alpha-gal, explained in this old thread. However, fruit and fructose affect us negatively in two ways, fruit has a high fiber content, and most of us have a low capacity for fructose when our gut is inflamed. IOW we can't digest it very well when our gut is inflamed. Also be aware that at least six types of pancreatic cancer can only reproduce and spread when they have fructose available as fuel. Unlike sucrose and other sugars, fructose does not produce an insulin response, so our bodies can't burn it as energy. The net result is that it is stored as brown fat.
Bottom line — fruit is not nearly as good for us as is claimed by many. Except for bananas, I haven't eaten any fruit in probably close to ten years.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
tex wrote:Sue,
You can only be sensitive to (produce antibodies in response to) proteins. Sugars cannot produce sensitivities, with one exception known as alpha-gal, explained in this old thread. However, fruit and fructose affect us negatively in two ways, fruit has a high fiber content, and most of us have a low capacity for fructose when our gut is inflamed. IOW we can't digest it very well when our gut is inflamed. Also be aware that at least six types of pancreatic cancer can only reproduce and spread when they have fructose available as fuel. Unlike sucrose and other sugars, fructose does not produce an insulin response, so our bodies can't burn it as energy. The net result is that it is stored as brown fat.
Bottom line — fruit is not nearly as good for us as is claimed by many. Except for bananas, I haven't eaten any fruit in probably close to ten years.
Tex
Well, just shoot me now, Tex. Let's get it over with. I love fruit and am always so proud that I choose fruit over candy when I need a sweet.
Of course what you say makes sense, except I'm not sure about fruit not causing an insulin response because I know I get a sugar high and rapid decline after some fruits that leaves me swearing I'll never eat it again. So between that and your commentary that it's not good for me, I'm just going to go back to my good old chocolate. Go ahead, take that away from me, too!
You can try, but you better wait a few weeks.... I can only give up so many things at one time and I seriously think I'm having gluten withdrawal. I've had a headache since I gave it up and have been feeling kinda "yuck". (Kinda like when I got the "carb flu" when I did Atkins 15 years ago.) It's also times like this when I'm feeling tired, cranky, antsy, stuffy and headachey that I want to go back to just relying on drugs and eating whatever I want, rather than trying to heal myself and be drug-free at some point. But a couple of pieces of chocolate and a good night's sleep should have me back fighting this war again tomorrow. Tonight, I'm on the pity pot.
Thanks for the always helpful information, even though I sometimes wish I didn't hear it.
Sue
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
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Sue
don't want make your day worse, go steady on the chocolate intake... it is high histamine.
Lean towards the dark chocolate (that doesn't have dairy or soy etc)
and chocolate can be a cross reactor for gluten.
a few small squares of dark chocolate is ok.
don't want make your day worse, go steady on the chocolate intake... it is high histamine.
Lean towards the dark chocolate (that doesn't have dairy or soy etc)
and chocolate can be a cross reactor for gluten.
a few small squares of dark chocolate is ok.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Sue,
Everything is relative, nothing is absolute. So yes, fruit is much better for you than candy. I didn't mean to imply that you needed to give it up. My point was that everything is best in moderation because virtually everything has it's dark side. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Even deadly poisons like cyanide have their advantages. And even good things such as vitamin D can be overdone to cause bad effects. Too much salt is a poison. Even too much water can be fatal.
There's nothing wrong with continuing to eat fruit — that's how we evolved. Just don't force yourself to overindulge because you think it's the key to good health. It's good for a carb boost (if you want a carb boost), and fructose isn't the only sugar in most fruits. They also contain sucrose, sugar alcohols, and other sugars that trigger an insulin boost. The worst part for us is probably the fiber, because it irritates our guts when they're already inflamed. Especially when raw. Peeled, canned fruit or otherwise cooked fruit is much better for our sensitive intestines while we are reacting. It's much easier to digest. Remember, we're talking about a recovery diet here, not an everyday diet.
Tex
Everything is relative, nothing is absolute. So yes, fruit is much better for you than candy. I didn't mean to imply that you needed to give it up. My point was that everything is best in moderation because virtually everything has it's dark side. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Even deadly poisons like cyanide have their advantages. And even good things such as vitamin D can be overdone to cause bad effects. Too much salt is a poison. Even too much water can be fatal.
There's nothing wrong with continuing to eat fruit — that's how we evolved. Just don't force yourself to overindulge because you think it's the key to good health. It's good for a carb boost (if you want a carb boost), and fructose isn't the only sugar in most fruits. They also contain sucrose, sugar alcohols, and other sugars that trigger an insulin boost. The worst part for us is probably the fiber, because it irritates our guts when they're already inflamed. Especially when raw. Peeled, canned fruit or otherwise cooked fruit is much better for our sensitive intestines while we are reacting. It's much easier to digest. Remember, we're talking about a recovery diet here, not an everyday diet.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks - as much as I sometimes don't want to hear the facts, I NEED to hear them, so thanks for supplying them whether I like it or not.
I DID switch to dark chocolate about 6 months ago (I find I'm eating a lot less because I don't like it as much, so I guess it's a win-win there). Regarding it being high histamine, do we know if everyone has an issue with histamine? That's one area where I've done little to no research, but I can certainly put it on my list of things to research.
OK, point taken about the fruit. Something tore up my gut yesterday after lunch so I need to figure out if it were the hard-boiled eggs I had for breakfast or if it was the 1/8 of a cantaloupe I had with lunch. I skipped the eggs this morning and will have the identical lunch I had yesterday..... test in progress. :)
Sue
I DID switch to dark chocolate about 6 months ago (I find I'm eating a lot less because I don't like it as much, so I guess it's a win-win there). Regarding it being high histamine, do we know if everyone has an issue with histamine? That's one area where I've done little to no research, but I can certainly put it on my list of things to research.
OK, point taken about the fruit. Something tore up my gut yesterday after lunch so I need to figure out if it were the hard-boiled eggs I had for breakfast or if it was the 1/8 of a cantaloupe I had with lunch. I skipped the eggs this morning and will have the identical lunch I had yesterday..... test in progress. :)
Sue
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
It was probably the cantaloupe. Melons contain some chemicals (which I don't recall the names of offhand) that don't agree with us, especially when we are still recovering. Melons get me every time, and a lot of others are in the same boat.
Regarding histamines, most people who have a histamine issue notice certain symptoms almost immediately when they begin to eat certain high-histamine foods. Excess perspiration, runny nose, itching, a facial neck or chest flush (redness), rash, tachycardia, sneezing, throat congestion are all examples of possible symptoms (it's an IgE reaction, so it's immediate, unlike the delayed reaction from food sensitivities that are based on IgA antibodies). But symptoms can be subtle, you may have to look for them. Examples of high-histamine foods are chocolate, dried or fermented foods, fish, chicken, very ripe fruit, etc.
Tex
Regarding histamines, most people who have a histamine issue notice certain symptoms almost immediately when they begin to eat certain high-histamine foods. Excess perspiration, runny nose, itching, a facial neck or chest flush (redness), rash, tachycardia, sneezing, throat congestion are all examples of possible symptoms (it's an IgE reaction, so it's immediate, unlike the delayed reaction from food sensitivities that are based on IgA antibodies). But symptoms can be subtle, you may have to look for them. Examples of high-histamine foods are chocolate, dried or fermented foods, fish, chicken, very ripe fruit, etc.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Sue
fruit and especially melons are contributing to your current issues. the chemicals that Tex refers to do cause inflammation, coupled with the fruit sugar, and if you are having fruit/melons AFTER a meal they are impacting the digestion process of the proteins you had in the meal (things ferment in your gut)
fruit and especially melons are contributing to your current issues. the chemicals that Tex refers to do cause inflammation, coupled with the fruit sugar, and if you are having fruit/melons AFTER a meal they are impacting the digestion process of the proteins you had in the meal (things ferment in your gut)
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
I hope you two don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon..... your presence on this board is invaluable. Yes, I have my lunch (turkey with vegan mayo on a GF wrap with just a few leafs of spring mix) and then have some cantaloupe as my dessert. I did that today and didn't have any real issues, but yes, there is some mild grumbling and poking going on in my gut. Tomorrow I will add back in the hard boiled eggs for breakfast and skip the cantaloupe at lunch and see what happens. If the eggs bother me again, I will try the next day WITHOUT the yolk. Oh what a tangled web this is....Gabes-Apg wrote:Sue
fruit and especially melons are contributing to your current issues. the chemicals that Tex refers to do cause inflammation, coupled with the fruit sugar, and if you are having fruit/melons AFTER a meal they are impacting the digestion process of the proteins you had in the meal (things ferment in your gut)
Sue
Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!