Thanks for the link Erica.
Brandy, unfortunately I react to almonds. I didn’t know almond milk is a good source of calcium. Or did you mean it is fortified with calcium?
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Henry,
I react to all nuts. In fact, peanuts cause my digestive symptom to stop (ileus). Another member (Gloria) also reacts to all nuts. We both can drink almond milk with no problems. Of course that doesn't mean that almond milk would be safe for you, but it might be.
Tex
I react to all nuts. In fact, peanuts cause my digestive symptom to stop (ileus). Another member (Gloria) also reacts to all nuts. We both can drink almond milk with no problems. Of course that doesn't mean that almond milk would be safe for you, but it might be.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I also react strongly against peanuts. But what about peanut oil, is that unsafe too? I’m asking because here in China a lot of sunflower cooking oil is actually a mix that contains other oils. Like peanut oil and corn oil.tex wrote:Henry,
I react to all nuts. In fact, peanuts cause my digestive symptom to stop (ileus).
Tex
Henry, several of us are ok with peanut oil. The only reason that I know is that I get french fries that are cooked in peanut oil from a restaurant called Five Guys.
Yes, my almond milk if fortified with calcium. I don't take any calcium supplements. Almond milk is the only thing that I consume that has an ingredient list.
Yes, my almond milk if fortified with calcium. I don't take any calcium supplements. Almond milk is the only thing that I consume that has an ingredient list.
Henry,
I'm not sure how to weigh in on that question. Since I had that experience I've been taking the coward's way out — I have been simply avoiding everything that has anything to do with peanuts.
The "experts" claim it's safe for people with peanut allergies.
Tex
I'm not sure how to weigh in on that question. Since I had that experience I've been taking the coward's way out — I have been simply avoiding everything that has anything to do with peanuts.
The "experts" claim it's safe for people with peanut allergies.Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Here is the latest article from Dr. Carolyn Dean, she is having a webinar this Thursday at Noon pacific, 3pm Eastern for anyone interested in listening about the details. Even after the webinar is over one can listen to the archive.
The American Osteopathic Association reported that up to 50% of the US population is magnesium deficient, which means they are unable to utilize Vitamin D.
Basically Vitamin D can’t be metabolized from the inactive form to the active form without sufficient magnesium. So you may be all tanked up with lots of inactive Vitamin D – which happens to be the blood test that doctors do – yet you don’t have enough magnesium to turn it into active vitamin D. Another interesting point coming from this research is that the Vitamin D supplements can increase your calcium and phosphate but you are still Vitamin D deficient. This adds to the problem of vascular calcification, which they say occurs if your magnesium levels aren’t high enough.
The co-author of the study says that “People are taking Vitamin D supplements but don’t realize how it gets metabolized. Without magnesium, Vitamin D is not really useful or safe.”
Here’s the scenario I write about in The Magnesium Miracle (2017) “You’ve been feeling great on your magnesium, and then you begin taking high-dose Vitamin D and find yourself experiencing magnesium deficiency symptoms again. Magnesium is involved in 8 chemical reactions required to transform Vitamin D from its storage form into its active form. That means if you take the extremely high doses that allopathic doctors are now recommending, you can plummet into magnesium deficiency and not know why. For this reason I don’t recommend more than 1,000–2,000 IU of Vitamin D3 daily. And never take Vitamin D without magnesium.”
From the existing literature, we know that low vitamin D increases the risk of mortality and morbidity and magnesium plays an essential role in vitamin D metabolism. Putting these two facts together, researchers in a 2015 study investigated whether magnesium intake modifies the serum 25(OH)D3 concentration and its association with mortality in middle-aged and older men.[ii] The study included 1892 men aged 42–60 years without cardiovascular disease or cancer. They concluded that low serum 25(OH)D3 concentration was associated with increased risk of death mainly in those with lower magnesium intake.”
The American Osteopathic Association reported that up to 50% of the US population is magnesium deficient, which means they are unable to utilize Vitamin D.
Basically Vitamin D can’t be metabolized from the inactive form to the active form without sufficient magnesium. So you may be all tanked up with lots of inactive Vitamin D – which happens to be the blood test that doctors do – yet you don’t have enough magnesium to turn it into active vitamin D. Another interesting point coming from this research is that the Vitamin D supplements can increase your calcium and phosphate but you are still Vitamin D deficient. This adds to the problem of vascular calcification, which they say occurs if your magnesium levels aren’t high enough.
The co-author of the study says that “People are taking Vitamin D supplements but don’t realize how it gets metabolized. Without magnesium, Vitamin D is not really useful or safe.”
Here’s the scenario I write about in The Magnesium Miracle (2017) “You’ve been feeling great on your magnesium, and then you begin taking high-dose Vitamin D and find yourself experiencing magnesium deficiency symptoms again. Magnesium is involved in 8 chemical reactions required to transform Vitamin D from its storage form into its active form. That means if you take the extremely high doses that allopathic doctors are now recommending, you can plummet into magnesium deficiency and not know why. For this reason I don’t recommend more than 1,000–2,000 IU of Vitamin D3 daily. And never take Vitamin D without magnesium.”
From the existing literature, we know that low vitamin D increases the risk of mortality and morbidity and magnesium plays an essential role in vitamin D metabolism. Putting these two facts together, researchers in a 2015 study investigated whether magnesium intake modifies the serum 25(OH)D3 concentration and its association with mortality in middle-aged and older men.[ii] The study included 1892 men aged 42–60 years without cardiovascular disease or cancer. They concluded that low serum 25(OH)D3 concentration was associated with increased risk of death mainly in those with lower magnesium intake.”
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Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
I think I spoke to soon about upping my Mag to 300 mg, I've had nocturnal D twice, Monday night and last night. I don't know what to think now.ldubois7 wrote:Gabes,
I’m confused by what I’m reading online. Some suggest that the calcium to magnesium ration is 1:1, and some say 3:1.....and then there’s K2 & vit. D3 to consider.
What’s your opinion from your reading?
Bummer! Better back off on the magnesium, at least until you pin point the problem. Did you take Doctor's Best brand Chelated Magnesium (magnesium glycinate)? . . .no mote than 100 mg per meal? Maybe 300mg is more than you need. Or something else may be the cause of the problem.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Yes I did that Tex for several days and yes taking exactly what was recommended. Hmmm. I don't even know if it was even tested, I've lost over 35 lbs, just got Thorne Methly-guard plus in the mail today, started that. Also D3 but not consistently.tex wrote:Bummer! Better back off on the magnesium, at least until you pin point the problem. Did you take Doctor's Best brand Chelated Magnesium (magnesium glycinate)? . . .no mote than 100 mg per meal? Maybe 300mg is more than you need. Or something else may be the cause of the problem.
Tex
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Terry
Terry,
See if your symptoms improve when you skip the oral magnesium for a few days.
But in the long run, skipping oral magnesium is not a treatment. We obviously need to figure out what's going on.
Tex
See if your symptoms improve when you skip the oral magnesium for a few days.
But in the long run, skipping oral magnesium is not a treatment. We obviously need to figure out what's going on.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Are we now suppose to take 750-850 mg of magnesium daily. I had a leg cramp last night and took potassium. The cramp went away, but is the problem magnesium insufficiency? I'm getting confused. I don't want to take magnesium till I get diarrhea. That's what one woman on some forum said. Dorothy
Hi Dorothy,
Here's my take on leg cramps: Usually, they're caused by a magnesium deficiency. But any electrolyte deficiency can cause leg or foot cramps (usually, leg cramps are likely to be due to a deficiency of magnesium, potassium, or calcium, in that order). Leg cramps occur because the body automatically regulates electrolyte levels in the blood. Our bodies store electrolytes in muscle and bone tissue, and when it needs to increase blood level (of an electrolyte), it draws electrolytes mostly from the muscles in our legs (and transfers them to the blood). Because the wee hours of the morning until just before time to get up is a long time since the last meal, this is when our leg muscles tend to run out of magnesium (or potassium, or calcium), and so we develop leg cramps.
As to the amount of magnesium to take, the body can only absorb a rather modest amount at any given time. Most of it is absorbed in the terminal ileum and the colon (not the small intestine, like most nutrients). So we definitely need to scatter doses (preferably with or immediately after meals) throughout the day. Any excess magnesium in the blood has to be removed by the kidneys. If your kidney function happens to be compromised, and blood levels get too high, it can cause arrhythmias or even trigger a heart attack (in extreme cases). The RDA for men is usually listed as 400 mg, and the RDA for women is usually listed as 320 mg. You might need to take more to slowly rebuild reserves, but I wouldn't take that much (750–850 mg). My terminal ileum and colon have been surgically removed (so obviously I have trouble absorbing enough magnesium), and yet I get by just fine with 300 mg of Doctor's Best Magnesium Glycinate each and every day, one tablet after each meal.
Tex
Here's my take on leg cramps: Usually, they're caused by a magnesium deficiency. But any electrolyte deficiency can cause leg or foot cramps (usually, leg cramps are likely to be due to a deficiency of magnesium, potassium, or calcium, in that order). Leg cramps occur because the body automatically regulates electrolyte levels in the blood. Our bodies store electrolytes in muscle and bone tissue, and when it needs to increase blood level (of an electrolyte), it draws electrolytes mostly from the muscles in our legs (and transfers them to the blood). Because the wee hours of the morning until just before time to get up is a long time since the last meal, this is when our leg muscles tend to run out of magnesium (or potassium, or calcium), and so we develop leg cramps.
As to the amount of magnesium to take, the body can only absorb a rather modest amount at any given time. Most of it is absorbed in the terminal ileum and the colon (not the small intestine, like most nutrients). So we definitely need to scatter doses (preferably with or immediately after meals) throughout the day. Any excess magnesium in the blood has to be removed by the kidneys. If your kidney function happens to be compromised, and blood levels get too high, it can cause arrhythmias or even trigger a heart attack (in extreme cases). The RDA for men is usually listed as 400 mg, and the RDA for women is usually listed as 320 mg. You might need to take more to slowly rebuild reserves, but I wouldn't take that much (750–850 mg). My terminal ileum and colon have been surgically removed (so obviously I have trouble absorbing enough magnesium), and yet I get by just fine with 300 mg of Doctor's Best Magnesium Glycinate each and every day, one tablet after each meal.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.