Enterolab results - what can I eat??

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Tex, I just had a ground turkey pattie, no additives, all natural - I stocked up on the turkey and froze it in 4oz portions so I can just pull out a portion every morning and let it thaw in the fridge and then I eat it the same night. Anyway,it may be possible that I'm allergic to the turkey.? I haven't had hives like this for this long before. I've also never had ground turkey until Saturday. I got more hives tonight after I ate. I had the ground turkey, mixed veggies, coconut oil and riced cauliflower. I had one chocolate cookie, which I mentioned in a previous post (above). I took another claritin in the hopes that tomorrow morning, the hives will disappear or at least reduce in size --- I don't know what to eat anymore. I'm sensitive to the following: I'm thinking I may be sensitive to turkey too

Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+):
Corn
Rice
Chicken
Pork
Beef
Almond
Cashew
Walnut
White potato

Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+):
Oat
Tuna

Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
None

Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice

Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Tuna
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Chicken
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Pork
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Beef

Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Walnut
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I just wrote a response in another thread about this. Lemme look it up . . .

Found it.

Read my second post in the thread at this link:

Immune system antibodies

IOW, your problem may be the chocolate.

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my brief thoughts on this discussion

- chocolate is a high histamine food
- are you experiencing change of season / additional histamine triggers in your home, work environment?
- in line with Tex's earlier response about cross reactors to the immune system, chocolate and coffee can be cross reactors for gluten that means that certain proteins in the chocolate are the same as gluten, when you consume chocolate the immune system thinks it is gluten, and reacts.


if you suspect turkey may be an issue - then stop having it and try game red meats like bison or venison (given beef was your safest protein option)

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GF, Dairy Free,Nut Free - Histamine issues

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Hi everyone - I've been on the gf, dairy free,nut free diet for about 4 weeks now and I am not bloated anymore and I do have more energy. I still however still have histamine issues - I will wake up one morning and have hives on my face and chest and swollen glands/lymph nodes on my head, neck, behind ears, above ears, etc. I am very concerned and overwhelmed. I don't know if I should also include a low histamine diet as well, but by doing so, there are even more foods that I would have to eliminate. Do you have any dietary advice for me?

My meals are:
breakfast, cream of buckwheat, salt, cinnamon, pumpkin pie spice, small amount of blackberries and apple
lunch: ground organic turkey, olive oil, well cooked broccoli, cauliflower (it's a mix) using sea salt and basil
dinner: same thing as lunch - sometimes I'll cook spaghetti squash or zucchini noodles
snack: sunflower seed butter

I appreciate any advice you can give me. thank you
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You don't necessarily have to follow a low-histamine diet, but you definitely have to minimize high-histamine foods. And there is another category of foods you have to watch out for — histamine liberators, or foods that provoke a histamine response from your body. Sunflower seeds are one of those foods. In other words, a few might be OK, but a larger snack might be too much.

The problem is, we have varying thresholds for a reaction, and foods don't have a constant level of histamines (or a constant level of provocation capacity). As we accrue histamine during any given day, at some point we may over do it and our histamine level exceeds our threshold, so we react. It's a frustrating problem. For me, for example, half a not-quite-ripe banana with cashew butter is OK, but a whole banana is too much. And my sensitivity goes up during pollen season or when mold spores are at a high level.

I hope this is helpful.

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looking at your eating plan along with Tex's comments above
- not enough protein (no protein at breakfast)
- some of the items you are having could increase histamine levels, but this also depends on how much contact with external histamine triggers you are having -
- are you taking P5P (active form of B6) and taking magnesium and/or using topical magnesium?? both of these are needed to moderate histamine levels in the body
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