Hello everyone! I haven't been on here for a while, I am lucky enough to be practically back to normal after 3 years of dealing with MC - I still have the odd flare up but it doesn't last long and I'm able to manage it through diet.
Over the past few months I've noticed that I've been bloating when I drink water. In the morning before I eat enything it's not too bad but anything after breakfast (even several hours later) makes me bloat quite a bit. It's the same if the water I drink is cold, room temperature, warm or hot.
I've tried peppermint but that seems to actually make it worse. This may have nothing to do with MC but the bloating feels pretty similar to when I was in full flare up mode 18 months ago.
Any insights would be really helpful!
In remission but bloating when I drink water
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Louise1989
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Hi Louise,
Wow! That's a tough one to figure out. Are you by any chance taking any medications (such as antihistamines or antacids) or anything that else that might contain bicarbonates?
Tex
Wow! That's a tough one to figure out. Are you by any chance taking any medications (such as antihistamines or antacids) or anything that else that might contain bicarbonates?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Louise1989
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like Tex I have not heard of this issue before so started doing some googling/research.
this is best explaination that I could find
this is best explaination that I could find
based on content above, do you think it could be stomach flu? thyroid? issues with sugar regulation?Water Consumption and Bloating
Several factors influence whether drinking water leads to temporary stomach bloating, including the volume of water you consume and how quickly; what else is in your stomach; and whether your intestines are also full. On an empty stomach, one or two 8-ounce glasses of water are unlikely to cause noticeable bloating. In contrast, a quart or more of water consumed quickly with other food or liquid already in your stomach, may lead to some distension of your abdomen. Similarly, if your intestines are full due to a recent meal, constipation or both, quickly consuming a quart or more of water may cause temporary stomach bloating and discomfort. The larger the volume of water and other foods or liquids in your stomach, the more likely you will experience temporary bloating.
Contributing Factors
Medical conditions and other factors that slow stomach emptying may increase the likelihood of experiencing temporary bloating when you drink a lot of water. Narcotic pain killers, acid reflux disease, the stomach flu, bulimia, anorexia nervosa, an underactive thyroid gland, Parkinson's disease and nerve damage associated with diabetes, each commonly delay stomach emptying. Drinking water slowly helps prevent stomach bloating if you have one or more of these conditions.
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Louise1989
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Hello!
Thanks for all that info! Unforunately I don't have any of those complaints (well fortunatley, I should say!) I know that my tummy area in general has been a little tight these past couple of months (I hold my stress there and I've had a few of big changes recently) - it could just be that.
Thanks for your help :)
Thanks for all that info! Unforunately I don't have any of those complaints (well fortunatley, I should say!) I know that my tummy area in general has been a little tight these past couple of months (I hold my stress there and I've had a few of big changes recently) - it could just be that.
Thanks for your help :)
FYI.....stresses of any nature exacerbate how I may respond gut wise to things...it is literally a crap-shoot!
So yes stress may not allow the cells in the body to function like they need to hence the bloating feeling, even with water.
You did say you get adequate sea salt in the diet to help aid in absorption of water?
Digestive System > Small Intestine
Absorption of Water and Electrolytes
The small intestine must absorb massive quantities of water. A normal person or animal of similar size takes in roughly 1 to 2 liters of dietary fluid every day. On top of that, another 6 to 7 liters of fluid is received by the small intestine daily as secretions from salivary glands, stomach, pancreas, liver and the small intestine itself.
By the time the ingesta enters the large intestine, approximately 80% of this fluid has been absorbed. Net movement of water across cell membranes always occurs by osmosis, and the fundamental concept needed to understand absorption in the small gut is that there is a tight coupling between water and solute absorption. Another way of saying this is that absorption of water is absolutely dependent on absorption of solutes, particularly sodium:
Sodium is absorbed into the cell by several mechanisms, but chief among them is by cotransport with glucose and amino acids - this means that efficient sodium absorption is dependent on absorption of these organic solutes.
Absorbed sodium is rapidly exported from the cell via sodium pumps - when a lot of sodium is entering the cell, a lot of sodium is pumped out of the cell, which establishes a high osmolarity in the small intercellular spaces between adjacent enterocytes.
Water diffuses in response to the osmotic gradient established by sodium - in this case into the intercellular space. It seems that the bulk of the water absorption is transcellular, but some also diffuses through the tight junctions.
Water, as well as sodium, then diffuses into capillary blood within the villus.
As sodium is rapidly pumped out of the cell, it achieves very high concentration in the narrow space between enterocytes. A potent osmotic gradient is thus formed across apical cell membranes and their connecting junctional complexes that osmotically drives movement of water across the epithelium.
Water is thus absorbed into the intercellular space by diffusion down an osmotic gradient. However, looking at the process as a whole, transport of water from lumen to blood is often against an osmotic gradient - this is important because it means that the intestine can absorb water into blood even when the osmolarity in the lumen is higher than osmolarity of blood.
Here's a tidbit from - https://thecoffeelicious.com/an-explana ... edf9071b0f
If you drink water on an empty stomach, it can pass through the stomach into the large intestine and enter your bloodstream within 5 minutes(especially if the water is colder, compared to warm!). But, if you’re eating while drinking the water, you may have to wait upwards of 45 minutes before the water is passed into the intestines because the stomach must digest the food first. Overall, on average, it takes from 5 minutes to a total of 120 minutes for water to fully absorb into your bloodstream from the time of drinking. The University of Montreal did a study poetically called “Pharmacokinetic analysis of absorption, distribution and disappearance of ingested water labeled with D₂O in humans.” which has graphs and timelines explaining their study if you like that kind of stuff.
Hope you find relief soon to the water mystery
So yes stress may not allow the cells in the body to function like they need to hence the bloating feeling, even with water.
You did say you get adequate sea salt in the diet to help aid in absorption of water?
Digestive System > Small Intestine
Absorption of Water and Electrolytes
The small intestine must absorb massive quantities of water. A normal person or animal of similar size takes in roughly 1 to 2 liters of dietary fluid every day. On top of that, another 6 to 7 liters of fluid is received by the small intestine daily as secretions from salivary glands, stomach, pancreas, liver and the small intestine itself.
By the time the ingesta enters the large intestine, approximately 80% of this fluid has been absorbed. Net movement of water across cell membranes always occurs by osmosis, and the fundamental concept needed to understand absorption in the small gut is that there is a tight coupling between water and solute absorption. Another way of saying this is that absorption of water is absolutely dependent on absorption of solutes, particularly sodium:
Sodium is absorbed into the cell by several mechanisms, but chief among them is by cotransport with glucose and amino acids - this means that efficient sodium absorption is dependent on absorption of these organic solutes.
Absorbed sodium is rapidly exported from the cell via sodium pumps - when a lot of sodium is entering the cell, a lot of sodium is pumped out of the cell, which establishes a high osmolarity in the small intercellular spaces between adjacent enterocytes.
Water diffuses in response to the osmotic gradient established by sodium - in this case into the intercellular space. It seems that the bulk of the water absorption is transcellular, but some also diffuses through the tight junctions.
Water, as well as sodium, then diffuses into capillary blood within the villus.
As sodium is rapidly pumped out of the cell, it achieves very high concentration in the narrow space between enterocytes. A potent osmotic gradient is thus formed across apical cell membranes and their connecting junctional complexes that osmotically drives movement of water across the epithelium.
Water is thus absorbed into the intercellular space by diffusion down an osmotic gradient. However, looking at the process as a whole, transport of water from lumen to blood is often against an osmotic gradient - this is important because it means that the intestine can absorb water into blood even when the osmolarity in the lumen is higher than osmolarity of blood.
Here's a tidbit from - https://thecoffeelicious.com/an-explana ... edf9071b0f
If you drink water on an empty stomach, it can pass through the stomach into the large intestine and enter your bloodstream within 5 minutes(especially if the water is colder, compared to warm!). But, if you’re eating while drinking the water, you may have to wait upwards of 45 minutes before the water is passed into the intestines because the stomach must digest the food first. Overall, on average, it takes from 5 minutes to a total of 120 minutes for water to fully absorb into your bloodstream from the time of drinking. The University of Montreal did a study poetically called “Pharmacokinetic analysis of absorption, distribution and disappearance of ingested water labeled with D₂O in humans.” which has graphs and timelines explaining their study if you like that kind of stuff.
Hope you find relief soon to the water mystery
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Louise1989
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armstrongpilot
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Hello
This might be a long shot for you....but I would check into it. I had a testing panel that showed for some stupid reason that I react very strongly to chlorine....which is in tap water. I put a De-chlorinating filter on my house and it helped dramatically.
I have to agree a bit with Armstrongpilot,
I live in an area where our little town is nestled up against the Blue Mountains and our water comes from a spring from that mountain, and yes I think the city is required to add a certain amount of chlorine and I have a filter on our fridge that potentially captures some or all of that chlorine, and that could make you not feel as well. I know when I drink water at my work which is 20 miles from my home, I am not a big fan of it, even though I know it also comes from a spring near the Blue Mountains, but I'm sure the chlorine is not filtered out of it.
I also do not drink bottled water either....have never been a fan of it unless there is no other alternative for me, I feel that type of water was chlorinated and then perhaps a few minerals added back in....over all it just doesn't taste as good as my home water.
I live in an area where our little town is nestled up against the Blue Mountains and our water comes from a spring from that mountain, and yes I think the city is required to add a certain amount of chlorine and I have a filter on our fridge that potentially captures some or all of that chlorine, and that could make you not feel as well. I know when I drink water at my work which is 20 miles from my home, I am not a big fan of it, even though I know it also comes from a spring near the Blue Mountains, but I'm sure the chlorine is not filtered out of it.
I also do not drink bottled water either....have never been a fan of it unless there is no other alternative for me, I feel that type of water was chlorinated and then perhaps a few minerals added back in....over all it just doesn't taste as good as my home water.
To Succeed you have to Believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a Reality - Anita Roddick
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007