What does it mean when this happens

grannykathy · Post by **grannykathy** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:42 pm

So I am on day 4 of the elimnation diet. This morning I was so encouraged - about an hour after breakfast I had the most normal looking bm I have had in weeks, if not months. Not perfect but you know, we get excited when it is that near normal. I had felt really weak all morning, but felt the weakness lift right after and felt really good. Then all of a sudden, maybe 15-20 minutes later I had to run to bathroom with WD.

Does that mean that my system liked what I ate for supper last night but did not like what I had eaten for breakfast an hour earlier? Just seemed weird to me coming just minutes after the good bm.

Post by **tex** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:33 pm

Maybe, but that's also a common event for MC patients. During recovery sometimes the first BM of the morning will be formed, followed by diarrhea later. What did you have for breakfast?

Tex

grannykathy · Post by **grannykathy** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:20 pm

I had Rice Chex with Almond Milk and canned peaches. And the peaches were in fruit juice. I ate a pretty large handful of the dry Rice Chex yesterday afternoon as a snack and did fine with them. The peaches weren't new but the almond milk was.

Post by **tex** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:52 pm

That was most likely OK. Without testing, we can only go by probabilities. If there was a problem with the meal, it was most likely the peaches, but a small to moderate helping of them should be OK.

Tex

skp · Post by **skp** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:39 am

Inflammation doesn't go away quickly with MC. Your Normal followed by D is, as Tex said, common with lots of us in the healing stage. I have kept a journal with a rudimentary spreadsheet I made to track what I ate, the supplements I took each day and my stools. Looking back it looks like a stool rollercoaster. Normals, D, soft but not D, fluffy, C and so forth.

It was over a year before I was writing Normal AM in my journal routinely. And I still can have D or very soft stools but it happens seldom now. We are all unique but one commonality for most is that healing is a process of avoiding foods we can't eat and patience. When I was in your shoes I would despair and wonder if I would ever be able to live life again without worrying about having D when I was away from home. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Hang in, we are with you!

Susan

grannykathy · Post by **grannykathy** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:38 pm

So oddly enough it is 3:30 in the afternoon and I've had 1 tiny but firm bm so far today. Considering I'm still on only 2 pills (6mg) I am encouraged by that. I haven't had a day with no D on 2 pills up to this point. After yesterday, I was afraid I was going to have to go back up to 3 pills a day. I had gone down to 2 pills a few weeks ago, but the D came back and had to go back to 3.

Of course, I know I can't count my chickens just yet, but I take every encouragement I can. Funny that this restricted diet is really not been as hard to take as I thought it would be. I thought it would be very depressing, but it hasn't been. I even made my husband a Mexican casserole last night and wasn't the least bit tempted by it. I just looked at it and could almost feel what it would feel like in my gut. Just happily grilled my chicken breast and heated my green beans.

I'm going to bake a potatoe tonight and was thinking of then slicing and frying it in a tiny bit of Canola. Does that sound safe? Or had I better use Olive oil?

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:40 pm

Good quality olive oil or coconut oil much better choice.
Oils like canola and cheap olive oils have additives, fillers and soy etc.

Enjoy.

grannykathy · Post by **grannykathy** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:58 pm

Thanks Gabes. I will use the olive oil. And thank you Susan. I appreciate the encouragement. I actually am keeping a log also of everything I eat. How frequent and what kind of stools I'm having and how many Budesonides I'm taking. I do feel like I have improved just in 5 days I have been on the elimination diet. Even if its just a little. It just makes me feel like I am having a little bit of control over what's happening to me. That has been the hardest part up to now. Just so confused - not knowing what to do - what to eat and been helpless to change my situation. Then I found this forum and just feel like you all are giving me some direction and I appreciate it so much.

Post by **tex** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:10 pm

Kathy,

If you do any really serious frying (such as fish or chicken) I recommend refined coconut oil. It has a much higher smoke point than olive oil or unrefined coconut oil, which you will need if you fry anything in the 350 degree F range, or higher. Refined coconut oil does not add the flavor of coconut to fried foods, the way that unrefined oil does. It works great, and makes the best fish I ever tasted.

Tex

grannykathy · Post by **grannykathy** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:31 am

Thanks for that tip. I will pick some up. Do you put anything on the fish other than just salt and pepper before you fry it? Is fish even safe for me at this early stage?

Post by **tex** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:04 am

Some members are sensitive to tuna and/or salmon, and possibly other species, but most of us have no problems with most species. Being from the South, I choose catfish whenever I eat fish. I roll the pieces in corn flour, rather than corn meal (but that's a personal preference) and use salt, but no pepper. Pepper (ground peppercorns, not chilies) is hard on the stomach, so I never eat it. Chilies (and all spicy foods) can be a bit hard on the digestive system also, especially during recovery, so they're best avoided until after you are in remission.

It may sound strange, but when I was recovering I sometimes ate leftover fried catfish for breakfast, so it must have been safe for me, at least.

Tex