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Help for nausea

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I am wondering if anyone has found something to help with nausea. Mine has been so bad I have great difficulty eating or drinking anything. (It does make going gf easier though)
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Nausea can be helped with benedryl in a pinch, long term help for it is going to be VitD3 2000-5000iu and Magnesium Glycinate 300-500mg combo. I had bad nausea for a long time before I gave my body what it needed in those two supplements. I no longer get nausea....ever.
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Can they be taken without food?
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Yes...in fact you can take Benedryl without food and go rest and it will start working right away.

The supplements will take a little while to get absorbed into the cells with daily use, but once you get on a decent regimen and maintenance dose you'll notice the difference moving forward. It may take a week or longer, we are all different in response rates.

Also Nausea went away for me after I removed Gluten and Dairy out of my diet too along with the supplement additions :wink:
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Erica is right on target, and I agree with her completely. Believe it or not, a persistent nausea problem is often a symptom of a chronic magnesium deficiency. It's believed that something like 80 % of the general population is magnesium deficient. Doctors continue to ignore the problem because the magnesium test they normally use (the serum magnesium test) is so inaccurate that it's virtually worthless except in the most extreme cases. Besides, professionally ignoring magnesium deficiency among patients is good job insurance because every known disease is associated with a magnesium deficiency, and doctors are not in the business of preventing disease — they earn their money diagnosing and treating disease.

Consider one of the best-known examples of nausea, the famous "morning sickness" associated with the first trimester of pregnancy. Most medical professionals blame morning sickness on the hormonal changes that occur during pregnancy. And they are correct. But that's not the end of the story. Those hormonal changes (escalating estrogen levels) deplete magnesium by supercharging the utilization of magnesium to build healthy bones, etc. both in the mother and in the fetus. The result is a magnesium deficiency after a few weeks, and it's the magnesium deficiency that actually causes the morning sickness. Women who build up their magnesium reserves early on in preparation for this event can prevent morning sickness. The bottom line — magnesium deficiency causes nausea.

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https://drcarolyndean.com/2011/02/magne ... vitamin-d/

Now I can't guarantee that a magnesium deficiency is the cause of your nausea, because there are other causes, sometimes. But consider that MC depletes magnesium, the medications most commonly used to treat MC (corticosteroids) deplete magnesium, and many other drugs (especially PPIs) deplete magnesium. Even coffee depletes magnesium.

I wish I had known about this when I was recovering, many years ago. I had nausea so bad that it interfered with my work on many days. But I didn't discover my magnesium deficiency until a few years ago when what was left of my meager magnesium reserves were wiped out by an allergic reaction to Bactrim. My symptoms became so severe that I had to do something.

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Post by MamaFill »

Thank you both.

I have read a lot on here about the magnesium and vitamin D3 but I posted under another topic about being too nervous to take them especially with all my prescription meds. And the info about too much magnesium scared me too, but I'm pretty sure I'm deficient from the symptoms posted. I am going to try to see my pcp this week and ask about testing for the vitamin d. I have been taking magnesium occasionally but not consistently. I don't have the right one yet (waiting for my order to come in). My husband is out getting me some benadryl and D3 right now. (Wonderful man!) I think I just have to ignore my anxiety for now and take the supplements because I'm feeling quite poorly.
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My run in with feeling better was I needed to supplement with Magnesium (even if it was the external lotion or Epsom Salt soaks) because VitD will not absorb properly without proper Magnesium levels in the body...go figure.

So with that said even if you are afraid of Magnesium, you probably really need a decent dose of it right now, just to begin with....later when you feel better and can start noticing little abiances about how things make you feel then take what you feel you may or may not need. But for now....you need it and however you are comfortable getting it.
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Thank you Erica and Tex. I feel like such a dunce about all of this. I really appreciate your advice.
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If you need something immediate, I recommend Bonine, which is meclizine, and sold over the counter as a remedy for motion sickness. I had horrific nausea, especially when flaring. My doctor prescribed Zofran which does help but I find it is a little sedating. The only side effect I have with Bonine is thirst.

Finally the biggest long term help was acupuncture. I went a full year without nausea after several treatments. My nausea resolved after 3 sessions (maybe that’s just me but there are clinical studies showing the effectiveness of acupuncture as a treatment for pain and nausea).

I also take Vit D3 and magnesium and they really have helped improve my energy and I agree with Tex and Erica that in the long, long run it’s important to get these levels up to where they need to be.

I hope you find some relief. Nausea can really stop a person in their tracks.

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Thank you, Carol. I will get some of that today if I can. The nausea has not let up at all and the benadryl did not help. I have a very hard time eating anything and I have no energy or desire to prepare bone broth or anything else. I've lost ten pounds in the last couple of weeks and I feel that if I can just get past this nausea I can work on healing my gut.
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Sometimes I would take one Bonine tablet and if that wasn’t enough I could take 4-8 mg of Zofran without any significant side effects. I would encourage you again to look in acupuncture too. It’s surprising how effective that was for me and I hope it would be for you. A good acupuncturist will probably work on other things too like immune system support or increasing energy.
Another thing that helped me at times more recently was taking a Zantac at bedtime. I still do that for reflux (although I’m hoping to fade it soon).

I hope you get some relief quickly.
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I see zofran is a prescribed medicine - my doctor just asked if I wanted something for the nausea and I turned her down. I take so many meds that I try to do without whenever possible, but I may have to get this. I will try the bonine first. Didn't get to the store yesterday. Hopefully I'll get it today. I would like to try the acupuncture but, honestly, I can't do a whole lot of anything right now. Very weak and nauseous. Thank you so much for the advice.
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MamaFill wrote:I see zofran is a prescribed medicine - my doctor just asked if I wanted something for the nausea and I turned her down. I take so many meds that I try to do without whenever possible, but I may have to get this. I will try the bonine first. Didn't get to the store yesterday. Hopefully I'll get it today. I would like to try the acupuncture but, honestly, I can't do a whole lot of anything right now. Very weak and nauseous. Thank you so much for the advice.
I'm having an issue with intermittent but chronic nausea myself. As I also have Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and am taking a cocktail of medication for that, it is a bit tough to sort out if my CRPS is in play or possibly the Microscopic Colitis.

My doctor did prescribe Zofran for me; it's prescribed commonly for nausea of all sorts including chemotherapy. But the Zofran didn't help my nausea and it also gave me constipation so I've passed on it since the initial trial of it. But everybody is different; it may be worth a shot for you. My main nausea drug lately has been the generic version of Dramamine, the good old "car sick pill". I am also taking Vitamin D3 and magnesium supplementation as the others have mentioned.

Best of luck to you and keep us updated!!
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Post by MamaFill »

Thank you for that. I'm definitely going to try the motion sickness stuff first. I'm pretty certain my nausea is due to the mc. The one thing that did stop it was the entocort but I am hesitant to go back on that due to the side effects I had. I also realized I wasn't taking the correct dose of magnesium so maybe that will help.

I am sorry to hear you're struggling with another issue (which sounds awful!). I couldn't imagine having something like that on top of mc. Best wishes to you.
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