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Reaction to Duck Eggs?

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Hi Everyone -

Things have been going very well for me for several months and for the most part I have felt pretty close to my pre-MC days. I still follow a strict gf, df, soy free diet. I tested 12 for chicken eggs when I did Enterolab testing but I have had chicken eggs in baked goods (which some members have said they can do) and haven't had any difficulty. I found a farm near me that sells duck eggs which I have used when I have made muffins at home and had no difficulty. Yesterday, I decided that I was going to have a duck egg fried (over easy) on gf toast. I have had this gf bread before without issue. Shortly after I ate, my stomach hurt a little but I didn't need to use the bathroom and didn't feel nauseous. Next month I am walking the Boston Marathon route to raise money for the Jimmy Fund/Dana Farber. I haven't had the time to train much this summer so I set out to do a 5 mile training walk. As I was walking, I was having a hard time feeling like I was hitting my normal stride and my stomach hurt a bit more. About a mile into my walk, I called my husband as I was feeling lightheaded and asked him to get me. On the ride home (which only took a few minutes) I felt lightheaded and told him I felt like I might pass out. My heartbeat picked up (which may be because I was anxious about everything). When he pulled into the driveway, I got out of the car but couldn't make it into the house before I got sick. Afterwards, I felt better (not great) and napped for awhile. Later in the day we were celebrating my daughter's birthday and I was able to rally and participate (and eat safe food) without difficulty.

Any reactions I had to food in the past resulted in me getting diarrhea so this is the first time I actually got sick to my stomach from something. My sister in law was saying that perhaps it was a bad egg and not related to the MC. All I know is that I am just fine with never eating a fried egg again.

I'm wondering if any of you have experienced something like this and what your take is on it - do you think it was a reaction to a bad egg or MC related?

Thank-you so much for your input -I haven't been on the forum much lately but I do stop in to "visit" each week and am grateful to all of you for what I have learned. A year ago, I never thought I would be doing so well -

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Hi Pam,

Sorry about the reaction, that's never any fun. This is just my opinion, but I agree with your sister-in-law — I suspect you may have just had the misfortune to get a bad duck egg. If it was a bad egg, it certainly could have caused nausea, lightheadedness, and tachycardia (rapid heart beat).

Another possible cause of lightheadedness and tachycardia (which suggests low blood pressure), would be an allergic reaction. I've never heard of an allergic reaction to an egg, but I suppose it's possible.

Another possible cause of those symptoms would be a hypoglycemic reaction, but that's not likely because duck eggs are a very high-protein food.

Sorry if I just confused the issue, but I'm guessing it was a bad egg.

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Thank-you so much, Tex! As always, I appreciate your input.

Wishing you all the best -
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Pam V
It's interesting that you happened to post this concerning eggs just now. I just got on here in order to enter a post about eggs myself. I tested +4 for chicken eggs. I had noticed in the past - before I was tested that after eating scrambled or fried eggs for breakfast I would have a burning sensation at the top of my stomach and it would last all day. Just made me not want to eat or drink anything the rest of the day, because after eating the egg then everything else I put in my stomach just made the discomfort worse.

So then when I got the test result I stayed off eggs for a while. Then I decided to try just eating the yolks. I've been doing that for a couple of months now and never have a problem. So I determined that the whites are my problem and not the yolks. So then this morning, I decided to test my theory. I had 2 scrambled eggs, well cooked - whites and all. Sure enough, after a couple of hours, the burning sensation set in and it is still with me.


Soooo, just a little food for thought for those who can't eat eggs. You might try just the yolks and see what happens.
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Post by Pam V »

Thank-you, Kathy! I wasn't a big fan of eggs growing up - occasionally I would enjoy a poached egg (very good with that hollandaise sauce as I recall) or an omelet but as a rule, I didn't eat too many for breakfast. I've been okay with them baked in products and will continue to do that. Interesting, that the yolk didn't bother you! I always thought that was the best part of the egg:) I'm glad that you were able to enjoy the yolks without any difficulty!

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My experience with eggs since having MC, it depends on what they have been fed.
If the eggs come from birds that have been fed high wheat and soy based food, I react.
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So we should stick to organic eggs? Are all organic eggs the same are is there a brand I should look for? Or do you get yours fresh from someone?
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Post by Gabes-Apg »

I am in Australia so the food supply chain is very different here.

I live semi rural and can access free range eggs not fed grain.
(Both chicken and duck)

Of note, here in Australia we have strict labelling laws and the levels of gluten in a product to be gluten free is 4 times lower than USA.
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Right. Well I know I have seen Eggs labeled "free-range" so I will look for those. I do think its strange though that I can eat the yolks just fine and not the whites.
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Hi Kathy,

The reason why you can eat the yolks and not the whites (albumen) is because sensitivity to egg yolks is very rare. In fact, EnteroLab only tests samples that are sent in for egg testing for albumen reactions — they don't even have a test available for the yolks.

Please be aware that most "free-range" chickens are still fed grain. The rules simply specify that a "free-range" chicken must have access to a larger (usually fenced-in) area where they may roam (if they choose to do so) for a specified minimum number of hours per day during a specified minimum number of weeks each year. Obviously, in some areas, weather may prevent free-ranging for many weeks during the winter. Chickens cannot tolerate extremes of weather (nor can other animals). I would venture a guess that it would be very rare for any animal to not have access to grain during all or most times of the year in just about any area of the country.

A farmer or rancher would be guilty of cruelty to animals if they didn't provide supplemental feed to animals when they need it (during various times of the year).

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Post by Gabes-Apg »

What Tex states is true, most free range chickens would still be getting supplemental feed that is grain/ soy based.
I am lucky that my sources for eggs, the grain based food doesn't not have soy, and other grains are less than 40% of their feeding.
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Hi Pam,

Sorry to hear about your experience. I am intolerant to chicken eggs, so I decided to test myself on duck eggs. They were from a friend who raises them organically e.g. no pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, natural feed. I tried them a few times as I was hoping they would be successful, as I used to love eggs. Unfortunately, each time I felt stomach pains within 15 minutes of eating and ended up with loose bowel motions and very sulfurous gas.

Not sure if your experience is similar to mine, but thought I'd let you know that there are others who can't tolerate duck eggs either.
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Maximus74,

Thank-you for sharing your experience with duck eggs. In a way I am kind of lucky because I wasn't a huge fan of eggs but I did enjoy the occasional poached or scrambled egg for breakfast. Where I seem to be tolerant of chicken eggs in baked goods, I'm going to skip the trip to the farm for duck eggs from now on and just use the chicken eggs when I bake gluten free muffins.

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Post by grannykathy »

Thanks Tex for that explanation about the yolks. I'm glad its the yolk and not the white that I can eat. I would find straight egg whites to be pretty boring and find a couple of scrambled yolks to be quite satisfying. I have been using Bisquick's gf baking mix for pancakes and it calls for eggs. I was concerned the first time I made them - but it didn't cause a problem. Of course thats one egg spread out in the entire batch of pancake batter and I only eat a couple of small pancakes out of it so that may be why. But also have eaten some gluten free cookies that contain egg whites without a problem.
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