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wow.....THANKS SO MUCH! Called my Gastro but they are closed for the day after Thanksgiving. He has been so good to me with my MC. I just took 3 of my 'old' stockpile. We shall see but going to order from the site you gave me.

Alldaychemist says ...."A prescription is needed for prescription medicines. The same may be sent by e-mail (as a scan) or by fax to our number +1-760-2845903." You said none was required when you ordered? I can get a script but sure would like to order without bothering.

Also I have read on here NOT to order more than 90 day supply as customs might reject it. We know that a 90 day supply of Budez is 270 capsules as the dosage is 3 a day so I have to order 3 packages of 90. Will
this raise a red flag? How much did you order at a time? Thanks


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tommyboywalker wrote:Your post below said there was a link for overseas pharmacies where no script is required but there is no link in the post. I am willing to use any reliable source to save money as I am so miserable. I will call gastro to make appt and can get script for Canadian use but might want to do it NOW without script. Whats the best overseas pharmacy to use and whats the best Canadian pharmacy to use? I will try to get all the samples I can from my gastro and I know he will do all he can for me when I tell him I cannot afford the meds from my Medicare Part D.

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Hi Terri,

The overseas pharmacy that many of us use for inexpensive Budesonide is called ALLDAYCHEMIST. It is located in India. No prescription necessary and as mentioned, U.S prescriptions are of no value anyways out of the U.S. This is the pharmacy that was recommended to me on this forum. Link to them is below.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/

I have used AllDayChemist twice now and I have had no issues. From the date of the order to your door is approximately 2 weeks. Easy to pay with money being taken directly from your checking account using "eCheck". I just checked on their site and 270 capsules of Budesonide (BUDEZ CR is what the name to search) will cost you about $160. Quite a discount! I agree that this drug can be ultra-expensive in the U.S, even with good insurance. Good luck to you and hope this helps!
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Terri,

I think there is some wording regarding prescriptions, but you absolutely do not need one. Just ignore any reference to a prescription while completing your order / checkout with them. I've ordered twice from them now without a prescription (even though I do have the valid U.S. prescriptions for both items I ordered) and had no problem. This was my biggest question as well and I contacted them about it and was told that a prescription isn't necessary. A U.S. prescription isn't valid in India anyways, so a script truly has no logistical value to them.

I do agree that ordering more than 270 Budesonide capsules "could" raise a flag at customs so it is best to limit your order to 270 capsules or less. The options on their website are quantities of 30, 60 or 90. So my max recommendation would be a quantity of 3 of the 90 capsules. I ordered 270 capsules without issue.

The Budesonide they carry comes from Sun Pharma, the largest pharma company in India, the largest India pharma company in the U.S. and the 5th largest specialty generic company globally. (per Wikipedia)

Hope this helps!
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Ok....I won't worry about the prescription but even in the checkout process it says to upload or fax it but I will rely on your experience 100%.

I didn't know if 3 packages of 90 would make customs think that I was ordering more than 90 days because they don't have a clue that 270 IS A 90 DAY order for this med. Thanks again

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Hi Terri,

270 capsules in one order is fine — that's the practical limit.

They include the wording about a prescription requirement to try to make the regulatory folks happy. As Tommy said, just ignore it.

But you don't need a new supply, anyway — not for a long time. The pharmaceutical industry realized that if they put an expiration date of only 1 year on all prescriptions, they'll sell a heck of a lot more prescriptions in the long run. Drugs don't lose strength anywhere near that soon. Entocort should be good for at least 8–10 years. Properly stored, it should still have over 80 % of it's original effectiveness for up to 40 years.

I never throw any prescriptions away (unless they might be dangerous for someone else).

And there is indeed a link in that post you cited. That phrase in blue that says

Budez CR 3 mg

is a live link to the medication on All Day Chemist. Try clicking on it.

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tbenton7 wrote:I . . . can get script for Canadian use but might want to do it NOW without script. Whats the best overseas pharmacy to use and whats the best Canadian pharmacy to use?
I use GlobalCareRx in Canada for budesonide. It and every other medication I've checked is less expensive at GlobalCareRx than at AllDayChemist in India. GlobalCareRx says they require a script for certain medications including budesonide, and I've always emailed them one, but possibly that's not a rule that's enforced. You say you can get a script. The value of the prescription, which is put in the medication mailer, is to comply the the FDA's rules about buying imported drugs from other country. So, if you can get a script, why not get it so you can buy from the less expensive foreign pharmacy and have better protection against confiscation by U.S. Customs.
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Thanks for the reply Tex,

I have been taking the 'old' Entocort for 3 days and things are much better. I have 5 bottles dispensed in 2012-2013 and noticed long ago when I didn't need the stockpile that the bottles that were packaged from the manufacturer and not put in new ones at the pharmacy had manufacturer expiration dates 2 yrs longer than the pharmacy label so that was a hint right there. Therefore as you said I do have a long time to use them. They are stored in the coolest darkest place in the house.

I have found the correct site for the meds and will keep it bookmarked

Looking at your post about meds that can affect MC....I see one I took for 10 days starting 9/20/2018 for a staph infection resulting from skin cancer surgery....cephalexin 500mg. You indicted "The following antibiotics are generally considered to carry the greatest risk of causing problems (a flare or relapse, and/or a higher risk of a C. diff infection) for someone who has MC". Hmmm...wonder if that antibiotic may have triggered my flare that began 11/7/2018. After the 5 yrs of remission and being 'normal' I am truly disturbed about this really bad flare.

Thanks to you and Tommy I feel much better about what to do with the meds

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Terri,

Usually, if an antibiotic is going to cause a problem such as a flare, it will do so within a few days to a couple of weeks. Except for Cipro — it virtually never triggers a flare, but it can cause a torn tendon or peripheral neuropathy up to several months later.

My impression is that most flares that occur after years of remission are triggered by either stress, minor (trace) cross-contamination of an item that's used daily, or a new food (undiscovered) sensitivity (in that order).

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Thanks Tex,

Guess I am just looking for cause/effect. I have not introduced anything new or different to my diet but am usually under stress of some kind. 72 yrs old, retired and always money issues.

I starting taking Wellbutrin a few weeks before this flare. Ironic that I started taking it not long before my first battle with MCC in 2008 to aid with smoking cessation and after rounds of Entocort over a couple a years and after I stopped the Wellbutrin I didn't have any flares and started it recently again due to smoking cravings and now have MCC flare again. I did not like the way the Wellbutrin was making me feel this time so am now stopping it. Even more irony....off label use of Wellbutrin is also for colitis AND it also can cause colitis. Jeez! Whats a girl to do?

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tbenton7 wrote:I . . . can get script for Canadian use but might want to do it NOW without script. Whats the best overseas pharmacy to use and whats the best Canadian pharmacy to use?
I use GlobalCareRx in Canada for budesonide. It and every other medication I've checked is less expensive at GlobalCareRx than at AllDayChemist in India. GlobalCareRx says they require a script for certain medications including budesonide, and I've always emailed them one, but possibly that's not a rule that's enforced. You say you can get a script. The value of the prescription, which is put in the medication mailer, is to comply the the FDA's rules about buying imported drugs from other country. So, if you can get a script, why not get it so you can buy from the less expensive foreign pharmacy and have better protection against confiscation by U.S. Customs.
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I will check that one out...thanks!

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Terri,

I would consider Wellbutrin to be much more likely to cause MC than to treat it. But medications have different effects on some of us, so there are exceptions.

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