An Association Between Infections And Mental Disorders

[tex]

A study in Denmark finds that treated infections are associated with subsequent treated mental disorders in children and teens. Naturally the medical, establishment emphasizes this association. They found more than an 80% increased risk that a treated infection will lead to a later treated mental disorder.

But here's what I find very interesting in the "association". The use of an antibiotic to treat the infection was associated with about a 40% increased risk of a later mental disorder. Since various antibiotics were used, it's possible that a specific class of antibiotics was the primary cause of mental disorders. It might have been fluoroquinolones for example. We already know that they can cause peripheral neuropathy in adults.

Here's another way to look at the results: Maybe the infections only cause mental disorders in 40 % of the cases and the other 40 % are caused by antibiotics (with no contribution from the infection). The real question is whether the infection causes the mental disorders despite the use of antibiotics, or whether the mental issues are caused by the antibiotics.

Interestingly, the study found:

Findings

This nationwide register-based cohort study that included 1 098 930 individuals born in Denmark between 1995 and 2012 found that severe infections requiring hospitalizations increased the risk of hospital contacts due to mental disorders by 84% and the risk of psychotropic medication use by 42%. Less severe infection treated with anti-infective agents increased the risks by 40% and 22%, respectively; the risks differed among specific mental disorders.

A Nationwide Study in Denmark of the Association Between Treated Infections and the Subsequent Risk of Treated Mental Disorders in Children and Adolescents

IOW, it appears that antibiotics can adversely affect developing brains. This reminds me of the claim by many that too many (childhood) vaccinations in a short period can have adverse effects on developing immune systems.

But maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Tex

[Gabes-Apg]

Linked to to this, in kryptopyrrole world (Pyrrole or PD for short) it is known that antiobitoics can cause bound (usable) copper to become unbound (toxic) which is what causes mental symptoms.

Copper is stimulating to the brain, causing it to produce high levels of the activating neurotransmitters, like serotonin, norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine. This is why you will see copper toxicity in manic states like paranoid schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. The so-called copper head tends to be very emotional, very intense, often very creative. Such individuals are prone to crash and burn because their overactive mind is being supported by a very fatigued body.

Copper toxicity is a major factor in irritable bowel syndrome because copper is excreted through the bile and certain things will cause you to suddenly dump copper. If you have been building up copper, anything that causes an increase in your metabolic rate will cause a copper dump and it comes out through the bile. If you are copper toxic and suddenly under a lot of stress, this may bring on an irritable bowel episode because suddenly excess copper is moving through your bowels and irritating them.

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-top ... -the-mind/


This also explains my flares due to stress....

[nsaidcolitis]

I can say from experience during my sick journey. I was given abx to treat the bacteria I had in my stomach. I had mental side effects. I acted like a different person and got psychosis from it. Ended up in a mental facility diagnosed with schizophrenia (of course they were wrong) and was given meds to treat it lol so it took me 3 weeks to prove them wrong and therefore get out of that place. I told them it was the meds I was on.

I have my own theories about why this happened but no evidence.
This same thing also happened to a lil girl I met on facebook. But she didn't recover as quickly as I did (I was fine the next day).

I don't remember much of what I did while I was in psychosis except answering questions.....of course I gave the wrong answers that's why I ended up locked up lol.



Never had an episode again. I got a lot of stories like this haha glad it's all over, maybe I should write a book

[Zizzle]

Interesting thread Tex! I'm in the process of bringing my mom to the US from Centra America for confirmatory diagnosis of drug-induced Parkinson's. My mom developed insomnia and anxiety after dealing with nerve injuries from botched herniated disk surgery 2 years ago, but she developed severe depression and paranoia over the summer, seemingly after a round of antibiotics to treat a giardia infection. It's been a long road, almost 2 months in a facility, tried 2 SSRIs, then 2 SNRIs, anti-psychotics (Abilify), and continuing need for benzodiazepins for sleep. Motor symptoms started while on the anti-psychotic, but docs want to say it's "idiopathic" Parkinsons. Lining up functional medicine docs and neurologists now!

[tex]

Hi Zizzle.

I'm Sorry to hear that your mom's having such worrisome issues. It seems that once one gets caught up in the medical web, one thing leads to another, the drugs get stronger and stronger, and "new" health problems start turning up. I hope that you, she, and her doctors can find a solution.

You probably recall that I was diagnosed with Parkinson's slightly over 9 years ago. I was prescribed Azilect (rasagiline) by the neurologist. He failed to warn me about any diet restrictions, and back in those days I was able to eat dairy products. (I didn't realize that I was producing antibodies against casein, because dairy products didn't affect my digestive system). Anyway, about 6 months later, I ate a sizeable chuck of cheese. That's forbidden when taking Azilect and for 30 days after stopping it. I began having blood pressure problems that quickly got out of hand (my systolic pressure was often way over 200), and about a week later I started bleeding and the surgeons had to remove my colon in order to save my life. And to add insult to injury, it turns out I don't have Parkinson's, anyway.

Here's the point of all this: I had most of the symptoms of Parkinson's, so naturally the neurologist figured if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, . . . But by taking the active (methylated) forms of vitamins B-6, B-9, and B-12, I managed to greatly diminish my Parkinson's symptoms. Years of active MC before I figured out what was wrong with me probably depleted those vitamins, and and caused nerve damage. And I have methylation issues, so I probably wasn't able to activate enough of the vitamins anyway. I'm still taking those activated forms of those vitamins. Neurologists now agree that I don't have Parkinson's, so obviously I never did. As Gabes will attest, resolving certain vitamin and mineral deficiencies can sometimes work "miracles".

But if the symptoms are drug-induced, that's a different situation. You need to figure out if the drugs she's taken deplete certain vitamins or minerals. Many drugs do. Restoring those vitamins and/or minerals might be all (or an least mostly what) she needs.

Tex

[Greengoddess]

There appears to be a growing understanding of a link between problems in the microbiome (due to antibiotics) leading to gut bacteria depletion and certain kinds of mental illnesses like OCD. Sadly there is also evidence of gut problems associated with the weed killer Glyphosate which has been banned in Europe. In the teeth of fierce resistance. Things that so called mainstream medicine sneered at before are now been given significant research funding.