hive reaction 12 hours after the fact

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:28 pm

What might have been the suspect in the apple pie I made....I had a uticaria reaction on the bend inside my right arm at the elbow.....

Bob's Mill GF flour blend
Melt (butter substitute)

Autumn harvest apples peeled
Mccormick Cinnamon
Mccormick Nutmeg
Arrowroot starch
White sugar

For dinner with it I had a spaghetti sauce from the night before over fresh Tikiyada noodles.

Could it be the apples or the cinnamon? I have used the flour in other items and have not noticed any issues. Geesh if it is the apples or cinnamon maybe my histamine is pretty high in my body already and that one piece of pie just sent it overflowing.

Post by **tex** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:27 pm

Both cinnamon and nutmeg should be avoided if you're trying to minimize histamines in your diet. 12 hours seems to be about the time frame that symptoms start showing up for me when I exceed my histamine tolerance limit, so that may be a universal number that applies to everyone (or at least most people).

I had to give up greenish bananas, but apples work fine for me.

Tex

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:16 am

Thank you Tex,
I seem to always have to watch my histamine, a full time job, I wonder if it will get better....doesn’t seem like it takes much to put it over the edge. I have a terrible time weeding out what I eat and do that contributes to histamine on a day to day basis.

Is there any rule of thumb other than fermented that one can try to remember?

Post by **tex** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:26 am

To be candid, my histamine intolerance has continuously forced me to narrow my diet in order to accommodate it. Once I cut a food out, I don't seem to be able to ever add it back in.

Bear in mind that all nuts, and many spices (that are relatively slow to dry down to a stable storage moisture level) are likely to have a histamine level high enough to be a problem for many of us who have to deal with histamine issues. That can include some grains, in some cases.

Have you seen this article?

Is Gluten Really the Culprit in Gluten Sensitivity?

Here's a couple of links to an abstract of a research article published less than a year ago.

Non-celiac gluten sensitivity: people without celiac disease avoiding gluten-is it due to histamine intolerance?

Non-celiac gluten sensitivity: people without celiac disease avoiding gluten—is it due to histamine intolerance?

Tex

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:30 pm

Thank you Tex....
Very interesting articles....it really gives my mind some food for thought now and why we do so much better with a really limited list of foods.

Gee so much to process....time to eliminate and get back to a better foundation again. As much as I want to keep myself in alignment I sure get a pit in my stomach knowing I'll be 'special' once again due to limiting because of what others do around me and what I will or will not be able to participate in. It's such a lonely road to do this :-(

Post by **tex** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:36 pm

I look at it as a challenge we have to face every day, and I feel a sense of accomplishment at being able to deal with it without the use of medications (or the health care system, for that matter). Compared with all my other medical issues (ileostomy, stroke, etc.), it seems to be the only one that doesn't require any help from the medical system.

Tex

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:08 pm

You are 100% correct in that this does not require the help of a Dr....I find I have not had to seek their help ever since all my testing and what fors back in 2015...I find I am not that sick or debilitated from any of this that it would need a Drs attention.

Thank you for turning my frown upside down

I do hope that your health is behaving itself so that MC is all that you need to concentrate on Hugs.
E

Post by **tex** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:45 pm

My health seems to be fine again, now that my thyroid medication has been restored (which resolved my compromised kidney function issue), so that the arrhythmias have stopped. I've been out trimming trees — spring (and all the goodness it brings) is right around the corner.

Tex

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:00 pm

Found this in my searching....it has a little bit more added into it that makes sense in layman terms...

https://wholenewmom.com/health-concerns ... tolerance/

I'm so glad to hear that your health is at a really good place for you :-) Doing outside chores is a dream thought for us right now.

I wish the snow would leave already where I live SE Washington along the Blue Mtn foothills....this is the first time I can remember that there was snow on the ground during college spring break, that is 23 years

We are just starting to get better days beginning with today....so hopefully it is gone by next week, it can stay in the mountains!

Post by **tex** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:12 pm

That seems to be a very good article. Thanks for the link.

Tex

DeeDee · Post by **DeeDee** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:38 pm

Thank you for the link to the article. Very interesting. I recently received results from a dna gut test and it shows I have a high histamine gene, among other things. I am told high histamine produces too much zonulin, and that causes leaky gut, and then D. I am trying to read up on all this. Started taking a histamine blocker supplement and that is helping, but need to continue to heal the gut at the same time. Still need to research more on this. Its like finding a needle in a haystack.

Erica P-G · Post by **Erica P-G** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:21 pm

Interesting concept that too much histamine produces lots of zonulin....as that is what gluten does as well

I want to know more about this area as well, as it seems to set off a roller coaster of health issues that in turn makes each one of approach healing differently but also a bit the same too. So complex...but maybe this is yet another approach to healing the gut.