Does leaky gut continue after remission?
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Thanks Polly,
I feel blessed to have crossed your path too! I'm encouraged by you, and others that are able to show that there is healing and life does work itself out for us at an individual level.
It certainly does, and the work never ends that is why I've been ever so thankful that this site exists We constantly keep learning and having Ah-ha moments!
Love
Erica
I feel blessed to have crossed your path too! I'm encouraged by you, and others that are able to show that there is healing and life does work itself out for us at an individual level.
It certainly does, and the work never ends that is why I've been ever so thankful that this site exists We constantly keep learning and having Ah-ha moments!
Love
Erica
To Succeed you have to Believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a Reality - Anita Roddick
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Hi Carol and Tex,
Re: probiotics and MC
As you know, few studies exist on MC to begin with. It would be difficult to find any studies on MC and probiotics. But if I find one, I’ll post it here. I just happened to pull the study on IBS - which, I would agree is a wastebasket diagnosis. There are also studies on probiotics and IBD. Here's a beneficial study on Ulcerative Colitis, for example:
Epub 2016 Sep 13.
The long-term effects of probiotics in the therapy of ulcerative colitis: A clinical study.
Palumbo VD1,2, Romeo M3, Marino Gammazza A1,3, Carini F3,4, Damiani P4, Damiano G3, Buscemi S3, Lo Monte AI3,4, Gerges-Geagea A3,5, Jurjus A5, Tomasello G1,3,4.
Of course, I could come up with additional studies, but these would likely be on IBD not MC. Given the paucity of information about this particular topic (probiotics in MC) I think one has to do one's own experimenting. I’ve seen some benefits with probiotics. You clearly have not, Carol. And you don’t hear most people on this site saying that they work, Tex. I get it.
Chris
P.S. In terms of SCD and GAPS (I’ve been in both of those communities and experimented with both diets in the past). I find that even within those groups, one-size-does not fit all. Participants generally have to tailor the diet to their own needs. I just thought they might offer a good starting point.
Re: probiotics and MC
As you know, few studies exist on MC to begin with. It would be difficult to find any studies on MC and probiotics. But if I find one, I’ll post it here. I just happened to pull the study on IBS - which, I would agree is a wastebasket diagnosis. There are also studies on probiotics and IBD. Here's a beneficial study on Ulcerative Colitis, for example:
Epub 2016 Sep 13.
The long-term effects of probiotics in the therapy of ulcerative colitis: A clinical study.
Palumbo VD1,2, Romeo M3, Marino Gammazza A1,3, Carini F3,4, Damiani P4, Damiano G3, Buscemi S3, Lo Monte AI3,4, Gerges-Geagea A3,5, Jurjus A5, Tomasello G1,3,4.
Of course, I could come up with additional studies, but these would likely be on IBD not MC. Given the paucity of information about this particular topic (probiotics in MC) I think one has to do one's own experimenting. I’ve seen some benefits with probiotics. You clearly have not, Carol. And you don’t hear most people on this site saying that they work, Tex. I get it.
Chris
P.S. In terms of SCD and GAPS (I’ve been in both of those communities and experimented with both diets in the past). I find that even within those groups, one-size-does not fit all. Participants generally have to tailor the diet to their own needs. I just thought they might offer a good starting point.
Hi Polly, it’s great to see you here. Thanks for joining the conversation. I hope you are doing well.
Hi Chris, I’ve looked at both the GAPS and SCD early on, but found that after remission a Paleo diet was more in line with what I needed, so it was just easier to search for recipes and ideas within Paleo diets. Paleo recipes don’t require me to adapt or substitute many ingredients. And before remission I ate chicken, turkey, beef, red potatoes, white rice, carrots and green beans... for an entire year +. That’s about all I could tolerate and even at that I rotated them around so I didn’t eat any one food twice in the same day in case I was reacting to one of them. Thank goodness I’m no longer on the ‘I can only tolerate 7 foods’ diet anymore.
C.
Hi Chris, I’ve looked at both the GAPS and SCD early on, but found that after remission a Paleo diet was more in line with what I needed, so it was just easier to search for recipes and ideas within Paleo diets. Paleo recipes don’t require me to adapt or substitute many ingredients. And before remission I ate chicken, turkey, beef, red potatoes, white rice, carrots and green beans... for an entire year +. That’s about all I could tolerate and even at that I rotated them around so I didn’t eat any one food twice in the same day in case I was reacting to one of them. Thank goodness I’m no longer on the ‘I can only tolerate 7 foods’ diet anymore.
C.
“.... people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” Maya Angelou
Hi Janie,
In my opinion, any (new) damage is dependent on how long we react. If we are able to stop the flare relatively quickly, the amount of damage should be minimal. On the other hand, if we're unable to stop the reaction, the damage will continue to accrue until eventually it may be as bad as (or possibly even worse) than it was when we first began to treat the disease. So (again, in my opinion), no, a flare doesn't necessarily put us back to square one, but it may eventually, if we're unable to resolve a flare reasonably soon.
Tex
In my opinion, any (new) damage is dependent on how long we react. If we are able to stop the flare relatively quickly, the amount of damage should be minimal. On the other hand, if we're unable to stop the reaction, the damage will continue to accrue until eventually it may be as bad as (or possibly even worse) than it was when we first began to treat the disease. So (again, in my opinion), no, a flare doesn't necessarily put us back to square one, but it may eventually, if we're unable to resolve a flare reasonably soon.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.