Safe Meats Fed Corn and Soy
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kariswalstad
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Safe Meats Fed Corn and Soy
Hello! I just got my EnteroLab results and show that I'm reacting to corn, oats and soy. Pork is safe for me and I much prefer it to turkey, so I was asking a butcher for information on buying pork bones and possibly half a hog. They use very few antibiotics, but they feed the animals corn and soy! Am I safe to 1) use the bones for broth, and 2) buy meat from their hogs? Thank you!
Karis
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Hi Karis,
Some may disagree with me, but I think that as long as the hog was healthy, you'll be OK. Here's why I think the health of the hog maters:
Hogs have a digestive system that's very similar to a human digestive system. In fact they're so similar that pig digestive organs can be successfully transplanted into humans, and they normally work very well. Consider that when our digestion is working normally, we don't have leaky gut, therefore we don't have to worry about any medium-length chains of amino acids (due to poor digestion) being deposited in our joints and other organs causing arthritis-like aches and pains, and immune system reactions against them, such as when MC is active. IOW, when we have good digestion, only individual amino acids get into our blood stream, so everything works well.
With that in mind, you can see how if that hog happened to have poor digestion, due to a similar problem (a disease causing leaky gut) then it might have some of those medium-length amino acid chains (peptides) in joints and other organs (such as muscles). If we ate the meat from such a hog, we might react to some of those peptides (that shouldn't be there in the first place) if we also had leaky gut, or if those peptides (such as the common 33-mer gluten peptide, if it were in the meat) provoked leaky gut for us.
Another avenue that might allow the meat to be contaminated with reactive peptides, is if the processors contaminated the meat with digestive system contents. I'm pretty sure that hogs cannot completely digest gluten either, so if they happen to be fed wheat, their digestive system would likely contain the same reactive peptides that a human digestive system contains, after trying to digest wheat (no human can completely digest wheat, but many people are not adversely affected by wheat — the partially-digested peptides just pass through harmlessly).
Another thing to consider is that wheat is not normally a component in hog rations. It's only used if wheat is the cheapest feed grain available. Normally, wheat is much more expensive than corn or milo, so rations are usually based on corn or milo. Those feeds shouldn't be a problem because they shouldn't cause the hog to have leaky gut.
Opinions vary on this, but the bottom line is, normally, I don't believe the risk is very large. I can see how it might be possible, though. I hope this doesn't just confuse the issue.
Tex
Some may disagree with me, but I think that as long as the hog was healthy, you'll be OK. Here's why I think the health of the hog maters:
Hogs have a digestive system that's very similar to a human digestive system. In fact they're so similar that pig digestive organs can be successfully transplanted into humans, and they normally work very well. Consider that when our digestion is working normally, we don't have leaky gut, therefore we don't have to worry about any medium-length chains of amino acids (due to poor digestion) being deposited in our joints and other organs causing arthritis-like aches and pains, and immune system reactions against them, such as when MC is active. IOW, when we have good digestion, only individual amino acids get into our blood stream, so everything works well.
With that in mind, you can see how if that hog happened to have poor digestion, due to a similar problem (a disease causing leaky gut) then it might have some of those medium-length amino acid chains (peptides) in joints and other organs (such as muscles). If we ate the meat from such a hog, we might react to some of those peptides (that shouldn't be there in the first place) if we also had leaky gut, or if those peptides (such as the common 33-mer gluten peptide, if it were in the meat) provoked leaky gut for us.
Another avenue that might allow the meat to be contaminated with reactive peptides, is if the processors contaminated the meat with digestive system contents. I'm pretty sure that hogs cannot completely digest gluten either, so if they happen to be fed wheat, their digestive system would likely contain the same reactive peptides that a human digestive system contains, after trying to digest wheat (no human can completely digest wheat, but many people are not adversely affected by wheat — the partially-digested peptides just pass through harmlessly).
Another thing to consider is that wheat is not normally a component in hog rations. It's only used if wheat is the cheapest feed grain available. Normally, wheat is much more expensive than corn or milo, so rations are usually based on corn or milo. Those feeds shouldn't be a problem because they shouldn't cause the hog to have leaky gut.
Opinions vary on this, but the bottom line is, normally, I don't believe the risk is very large. I can see how it might be possible, though. I hope this doesn't just confuse the issue.
Tex
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kariswalstad
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