Relapse
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Hello everyone,
I seems that my CC has relapsed a week ago after about 4 months off of budesonide. The first go around I did 7 months of treatment and weened off once the constipation started to become significant. I still had not been feeling great with lots of fatigue due to my body not producing cortisol and some what looks like adrenal fatigue. I am DF, grain free, Soy free, eat grain fed beef, and general eat as clean as possible. So jump to a week ago, hit me pretty quick and progressively got worse each day. By a weeks end, every two hours I was going to the toilette. Now time for the gruesome details....it wasn't as watery as the first time around and at times I would only go a handful of beige mucous, never had that happen before. Yesterday morning I started running a low grade fever, which is unusual for me. I never run fevers. Got kind of scared and went to the ER, thinking I would just need some IV fluids and that was it. The ER was only concerned with testing me for the COVID and sending me home, they did give me a steroid shot to help with the gut and somethingfor nausea. Yesterday I also started back on 9 mg of budesonide. Any thoughts about the mucous, so weird and I really don't thing I have the COVID unless it is strictly attacking my gut. And the budesonide should I give it more time or go ahead and start? Any thoughts, comments would be much appreciated!!!
Thanks you all,
Eliza
I seems that my CC has relapsed a week ago after about 4 months off of budesonide. The first go around I did 7 months of treatment and weened off once the constipation started to become significant. I still had not been feeling great with lots of fatigue due to my body not producing cortisol and some what looks like adrenal fatigue. I am DF, grain free, Soy free, eat grain fed beef, and general eat as clean as possible. So jump to a week ago, hit me pretty quick and progressively got worse each day. By a weeks end, every two hours I was going to the toilette. Now time for the gruesome details....it wasn't as watery as the first time around and at times I would only go a handful of beige mucous, never had that happen before. Yesterday morning I started running a low grade fever, which is unusual for me. I never run fevers. Got kind of scared and went to the ER, thinking I would just need some IV fluids and that was it. The ER was only concerned with testing me for the COVID and sending me home, they did give me a steroid shot to help with the gut and somethingfor nausea. Yesterday I also started back on 9 mg of budesonide. Any thoughts about the mucous, so weird and I really don't thing I have the COVID unless it is strictly attacking my gut. And the budesonide should I give it more time or go ahead and start? Any thoughts, comments would be much appreciated!!!
Thanks you all,
Eliza
Hello Eliza,
The fact that your symptoms are different with your reaction this time suggests that you might indeed be having a SARS or COVID-19-related issue. This family of viruses can indeed attack the body by way of the gut. Although SARS-Cov-2 viruses primarily cause lung infections through binding of ACE2 receptors present on the alveolar epithelial cells (in the lungs), the small intestinal epithelial cells also express ACE2 receptors. This gives the virus a pathway through the gut.
Gut microbiota and Covid-19- possible link and implications
Medical opinions differ on the use of steroids outside of the ICU because of the way that steroids interact with the inflammatory agents. In other words, whether or not to treat MC with steroids during a COVID-19 attack might be a medical decision better made by a COVID-19 expert. My opinion is that it should be safe to use budesonide, but I'm not a doctor. My reasoning is that the lower our general inflammation level, the less likely we are to experience severe COVID-19 issues because we're less likely to have a cytokine storm.
Tex
The fact that your symptoms are different with your reaction this time suggests that you might indeed be having a SARS or COVID-19-related issue. This family of viruses can indeed attack the body by way of the gut. Although SARS-Cov-2 viruses primarily cause lung infections through binding of ACE2 receptors present on the alveolar epithelial cells (in the lungs), the small intestinal epithelial cells also express ACE2 receptors. This gives the virus a pathway through the gut.
Gut microbiota and Covid-19- possible link and implications
Medical opinions differ on the use of steroids outside of the ICU because of the way that steroids interact with the inflammatory agents. In other words, whether or not to treat MC with steroids during a COVID-19 attack might be a medical decision better made by a COVID-19 expert. My opinion is that it should be safe to use budesonide, but I'm not a doctor. My reasoning is that the lower our general inflammation level, the less likely we are to experience severe COVID-19 issues because we're less likely to have a cytokine storm.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
C. Diff
Hello all,
I received the results from the GI on some testing and it turns out I tested positive for C. Diff. Started Vancocin on Friday. I have searched some on this forum for C. diff and found some information. I guess one of my main concerns are the antibiotics causing more issues and causing CC to flare. Any thoughts or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated. As you all know, this GI stuff gets quite frustrating and I am feeling very discouraged today.
Thanks everyone,
Eliza
I received the results from the GI on some testing and it turns out I tested positive for C. Diff. Started Vancocin on Friday. I have searched some on this forum for C. diff and found some information. I guess one of my main concerns are the antibiotics causing more issues and causing CC to flare. Any thoughts or advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated. As you all know, this GI stuff gets quite frustrating and I am feeling very discouraged today.
Thanks everyone,
Eliza
Hi Eliza,
Vancomycin should do the job. Many of us take a good probiotic for a couple of weeks after we take the last capsule of the antibiotic in hopes that it will help to keep the C. diff and any other pathogens from becoming established while our intestine is vulnerable.
Tex
Vancomycin should do the job. Many of us take a good probiotic for a couple of weeks after we take the last capsule of the antibiotic in hopes that it will help to keep the C. diff and any other pathogens from becoming established while our intestine is vulnerable.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.