Hi Tex or anyone,
My vit D level was 37.5 in Sept. I was taking 2000Iu.
I increased it to 4000iu and today it was only 39.
I am out in the California sun all the time. so this really shocked me??
My caps are 2000 iu each,
What should i increase it to?
Are there side effects with higher doses?
Thank you in advance
Jen
vit d question
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Hi Jen,
At 39, your vitamin D level is way better than most people in the general population, and you should have good resistance against colds and other viruses. Higher vitamin D levels offer better resistance against many diseases, so I agree with you, and I try to keep my level in the 60–80 ng/ml (150–200 nmol/L) range, as much as possible. But vitamin D levels tend to shift over time for various reasons, depending not only on how much we're taking in, but on how much we're using, also. When MC (or any other disease or infection) is active, our immune system tends to use a lot of vitamin D as it goes about trying to control whatever issue it's dealing with.
The average adult normally uses about 5,000 IU of vitamin D each day, so unless you're getting a lot of vitamin D from the sun, or your diet, the increased usage due to dealing with active MC may result in your need to supplement with a larger dose. I live in sunny Texas, and I've been in remission for over 15 years, but I wear long-sleeve shirts in order to minimize contact allergies, so I take a 5,000 IU capsule every other day during the summer, and every day during the late fall, winter, and early spring. I sent a sample to ZRT Laboratories on January 30, when I decided that the coronaviruses might create a pandemic, and my vitamin D level was 71. I sent the lab a sample last week, but the result hasn't been posted yet. I usually order a test every spring and again in the fall, to make sure that my vitamin D dose doesn't need to be adjusted.
It's best to keep your level below 80 ng/ml. If your level goes over 100 ng/ml, that's considered to be an overdose, but most people won't have overdose symptoms until their level gets above 150 ng/ml (375 nmol/L). Vitamin D overdose symptoms include digestive upset, diarrhea, etc.
Tex
At 39, your vitamin D level is way better than most people in the general population, and you should have good resistance against colds and other viruses. Higher vitamin D levels offer better resistance against many diseases, so I agree with you, and I try to keep my level in the 60–80 ng/ml (150–200 nmol/L) range, as much as possible. But vitamin D levels tend to shift over time for various reasons, depending not only on how much we're taking in, but on how much we're using, also. When MC (or any other disease or infection) is active, our immune system tends to use a lot of vitamin D as it goes about trying to control whatever issue it's dealing with.
The average adult normally uses about 5,000 IU of vitamin D each day, so unless you're getting a lot of vitamin D from the sun, or your diet, the increased usage due to dealing with active MC may result in your need to supplement with a larger dose. I live in sunny Texas, and I've been in remission for over 15 years, but I wear long-sleeve shirts in order to minimize contact allergies, so I take a 5,000 IU capsule every other day during the summer, and every day during the late fall, winter, and early spring. I sent a sample to ZRT Laboratories on January 30, when I decided that the coronaviruses might create a pandemic, and my vitamin D level was 71. I sent the lab a sample last week, but the result hasn't been posted yet. I usually order a test every spring and again in the fall, to make sure that my vitamin D dose doesn't need to be adjusted.
It's best to keep your level below 80 ng/ml. If your level goes over 100 ng/ml, that's considered to be an overdose, but most people won't have overdose symptoms until their level gets above 150 ng/ml (375 nmol/L). Vitamin D overdose symptoms include digestive upset, diarrhea, etc.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Jen,
My results showed up today. My vitamin D level on 12/16/20 was 64 ng/ml.
If your burning tongue symptoms are caused by one or more vitamin deficiencies, you're probably going to need much more potent vitamins than what can be found in most multis. I see his reasoning, though. He figures that since we don't know what's causing the symptoms, he'd take a shotgun approach, but I'd be surprised if a multi is potent enough. He's the doctor though. Maybe he knows of one that might work. If only a trace element is deficient, a multi might do the job (as long as it doesn't contain any forbidden ingredients)
Tex
My results showed up today. My vitamin D level on 12/16/20 was 64 ng/ml.
If your burning tongue symptoms are caused by one or more vitamin deficiencies, you're probably going to need much more potent vitamins than what can be found in most multis. I see his reasoning, though. He figures that since we don't know what's causing the symptoms, he'd take a shotgun approach, but I'd be surprised if a multi is potent enough. He's the doctor though. Maybe he knows of one that might work. If only a trace element is deficient, a multi might do the job (as long as it doesn't contain any forbidden ingredients)
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Tex,
Your vitamin d level is terrific!! Congrats to you!
I agree, my dr is gasping ay straws. He has no idea..... the lips ate burning , dry and cracked. He is guessing. This is new for me.
He thinks i am severely malnourished ( so does my family) i am, they are right, but sticking to the same 5 foods , at least until i get my enterolab results.
He said "you need to start eating" and "take any multi vitamin"
I have been looking, hard to find one that is gluten free, dairy free, soy free, with the right ingredients. this is so frustrating.I don't want to take the wrong one.
Thank you,
Jen
Your vitamin d level is terrific!! Congrats to you!
I agree, my dr is gasping ay straws. He has no idea..... the lips ate burning , dry and cracked. He is guessing. This is new for me.
He thinks i am severely malnourished ( so does my family) i am, they are right, but sticking to the same 5 foods , at least until i get my enterolab results.
He said "you need to start eating" and "take any multi vitamin"
I have been looking, hard to find one that is gluten free, dairy free, soy free, with the right ingredients. this is so frustrating.I don't want to take the wrong one.
Thank you,
Jen
multi vitamin
besides gluten, dairy and soy, what else is a forbidden ingredient?
Eggs might be on the list for some of us, but basically, the three you named are the biggest threats. Of course, I've been in remission for over 15 years, but even though I'm sensitive to soy, and this product probably has traces of soy in it, plain old Centrum Silver works for me. They also sell special versions for men and women, but the men's version appears to have more ingredients that seem suspicious, so I never tried it. You might consider the women's version; I haven't looked at the ingredient list.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I take a micro-nutrient multi-vitamin called Micro Daily, made by Engage Global. It doesn't have gluten, dairy or soy in it, and is a very good product.
It's sold by consultants, so I can't tell you how to buy it, because I think that would be against the rules of the forum, but you can google it and probably find someone who is a consultant. You do it all online, so you don't need someone in your area. In addition to Micro Daily, I take Vitamin D (as advised by my oncologist), and glucosamine for arthritis.
I really like the Micro Daily. It didn't cause any trouble with MC, and I sleep better and have more energy since starting it 2 1/2 years ago.
Martha
It's sold by consultants, so I can't tell you how to buy it, because I think that would be against the rules of the forum, but you can google it and probably find someone who is a consultant. You do it all online, so you don't need someone in your area. In addition to Micro Daily, I take Vitamin D (as advised by my oncologist), and glucosamine for arthritis.
I really like the Micro Daily. It didn't cause any trouble with MC, and I sleep better and have more energy since starting it 2 1/2 years ago.
Martha
Martha
Hi Tex,
Is this the one you take?
iT DOESNT SAY DAIRY FREE?
https://www.costco.com/Centrum-Silver-A ... 28995.html
Thank you Martha, i will check that out too!!!
JEN
Is this the one you take?
iT DOESNT SAY DAIRY FREE?
https://www.costco.com/Centrum-Silver-A ... 28995.html
Thank you Martha, i will check that out too!!!
JEN
That's the one I use. That ad doesn't show the ingredient list, but when I look at my bottle ingredient list, I don't see any dairy derivative. It contains corn, but corn's not a problem for me. I use corn tortillas instead of bread.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Oh Geez, i wonder if corn is tested on the Enterolab A1 C1, I think it was?
I am just waiting on that result. It says on the website they recieved it last week. As soon as that comes, i'll know if corn is safe.
What do you put in the corn tortillas? Like meat and eat it like a sandwhich?
I meant to ask you if you had any trouble with the website on the 23rd?
Thanks for all your help, Tex
Jen
I am just waiting on that result. It says on the website they recieved it last week. As soon as that comes, i'll know if corn is safe.
What do you put in the corn tortillas? Like meat and eat it like a sandwhich?
I meant to ask you if you had any trouble with the website on the 23rd?
Thanks for all your help, Tex
Jen
Corn is not a common sensitivity, but yes, it's in the C1 panel. I mostly use tortillas at breakfast. I throw a couple of slices of bacon on the griddle, add an egg (separately) in the grease when the bacon is about half done, then I throw a corn tortilla on the griddle (in a little bacon grease) to warm it. They'll all be ready at the same time if I time it right, so then I lay the egg on the tortilla, add the slices of bacon, and wrap the tortilla to make sort of a breakfast burrito. If I'm hungry, I make two while I'm at it. Occasionally, I'll make a wrap-a-round with sausage, later in the day, for a snack. Otherwise, I'm not a big corn eater. Occasionally I'll eat a bowl of Corn Chex for breakfast, if I'm short on time.
There's a message near the top of the index page (the main page) that explains the website issues. I update it occasionally, as the situation changes. The site will be down another time or two before we finish updating it, but the work should all be finished in a few more days.
Tex
There's a message near the top of the index page (the main page) that explains the website issues. I update it occasionally, as the situation changes. The site will be down another time or two before we finish updating it, but the work should all be finished in a few more days.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
OMG, that all sounds so yummy, i hope i can eat like that again, someday. Really missing food and i am only 6 weeks in!
I am glad you didn't have any major problems with the website, its probably a huge headache for you though.
I was thinking, i wonder If i shoudl just start b complex vitamins instead of a multi. The dr. mentioned vit c and b complex, then said "take a multi"
Does fat versus water soluable make any difference with us, if i do take a multi? CENTRUM said it was both.
Thanks Tex, esp for the breakfast ideas , when the right time comes!!!
Have a good night
JEN
I am glad you didn't have any major problems with the website, its probably a huge headache for you though.
I was thinking, i wonder If i shoudl just start b complex vitamins instead of a multi. The dr. mentioned vit c and b complex, then said "take a multi"
Does fat versus water soluable make any difference with us, if i do take a multi? CENTRUM said it was both.
Thanks Tex, esp for the breakfast ideas , when the right time comes!!!
Have a good night
JEN
corn on enterolab
Hi again,
i tested 2+ for corn on the Enterlab.
I just looked and corn is in EVERYTHING!!!
I can't have any of this??
I am so upset, even tylenol, table salt and multi vitamins.
I can't take multi vitamins now?
Can someone please clarify for me.
Thank you
Jen
Here is the list
Acetic acid
Alcohol
Alpha tocopherol
Artificial flavorings
Artificial sweeteners
Ascorbates
Ascorbic acid
Aspartame (Artificial sweetener)
Astaxanthin
Baking powder
Barley malt* (generally OK, but can be contaminated)
Bleached flour*
Blended sugar (sugaridextrose)
Brown sugar* (generally OK if no caramel color)
Calcium citrate
Calcium fumarate
Calcium gluconate
Calcium lactate
Calcium magnesium acetate (CMA)
Calcium stearate
Calcium stearoyl lactylate
Caramel and caramel color
Carbonmethylcellulose sodium
Cellulose microcrystalline
Cellulose, methyl
Cellulose, powdered
Cetearyl glucoside
Choline chloride
Citric acid*
Citrus cloud emulsion (CCS)
Coco glycerides (cocoglycerides)
Confectioners sugar
Corn alcohol, corn gluten
Corn extract
Corn flour
Corn oil, corn oil margarine
Corn starch
Corn sweetener, corn sugar
Corn syrup, corn syrup solids
Corn, popcorn, cornmeal
Cornstarch, cornflour
Crosscarmellose sodium
Crystalline dextrose
Crystalline fructose
Cyclodextrin
DATUM (a dough conditioner)
Decyl glucoside
Decyl polyglucose
Dextrin
Dextrose (also found in IV solutions)
Dextrose anything (such as monohydrate or anhydrous)
d-Gluconic acid
Distilled white vinegar
Drying agent
Erythorbic acid
Erythritol
Ethanol
Ethocel 20
Ethylcellulose
Ethylene
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl maltol
Fibersol-2
Flavorings*
Food starch
Fructose*
Fruit juice concentrate*
Fumaric acid
Germ/germ meal
Gluconate
Gluconic acid
Glucono delta-lactone
Gluconolactone
Glucosamine
Glucose*
Glucose syrup* (also found in IV solutions)
Glutamate
Gluten
Gluten feed/meal
Glycerides
Glycerin*
Glycerol
Golden syrup
Grits
High fructose corn syrup
Hominy
Honey*
Hydrolyzed corn
Hydrolyzed corn protein
Hydrolyzed vegetable protein
Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose
Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose pthalate (HPMCP)
Inositol
Invert syrup or sugar
Iodized salt
Lactate
Lactic acid*
Lauryl glucoside
Lecithin
Linoleic acid
Lysine
Magnesium citrate
Magnesium fumarate
Magnesium stearate
Maize
Malic acid
Malonic acid
Malt syrup from corn
Malt, malt extract
Maltitol
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltose
Mannitol
Methyl gluceth
Methyl glucose
Methyl glucoside
Methylcellulose
Microcrystaline cellulose
Modified cellulose gum
Modified corn starch
Modified food starch
Molasses* (corn syrup may be present; know your product)
Mono- and di- glycerides
Monosodium glutamate
MSG
Natural flavorings*
Olestra/Olean
Polenta
Polydextrose
Polylactic acid (PLA)
Polysorbates* (e.g. Polysorbate 80)
Polyvinyl acetate
Potassium citrate
Potassium fumarate
Potassium gluconate
Powdered sugar
Pregelatinized starch
Propionic acid
Propylene glycol*
Propylene glycol monostearate*
Saccharin
Salt (iodized salt)
Semolina (unless from wheat)
Simethicone
Sodium carboxymethylcellulose
Sodium citrate
Sodium erythorbate
Sodium fumarate
Sodium lactate
Sodium starch glycolate
Sodium stearoyl fumarate
Sorbate
Sorbic acid
Sorbitan* (anything)
Sorbitol
Sorghum* (not all is bad; the syrup and/or grain CAN be mixed with corn)
Splenda (Artificial sweetener)
Starch (any kind that's not specified)
Stearic acid
Stearoyls
Sucralose (Artificial sweetener)
Sucrose
Sugar* (not identified as cane or beet)
Threonine
Tocopherol (vitamin E)
Treacle (aka golden syrup)
Triethyl citrate
Unmodified starch
Vanilla, natural flavoring
Vanilla, pure or extract
Vanillin
Vegetable anything that's not specific*
Vinegar, distilled white
Vinyl acetate
Vitamin C* and Vitamin E*
Vitamins*
Xanthan gum
Xylitol
Yeast*
Zea mays
Zein
i tested 2+ for corn on the Enterlab.
I just looked and corn is in EVERYTHING!!!
I can't have any of this??
I am so upset, even tylenol, table salt and multi vitamins.
I can't take multi vitamins now?
Can someone please clarify for me.
Thank you
Jen
Here is the list
Acetic acid
Alcohol
Alpha tocopherol
Artificial flavorings
Artificial sweeteners
Ascorbates
Ascorbic acid
Aspartame (Artificial sweetener)
Astaxanthin
Baking powder
Barley malt* (generally OK, but can be contaminated)
Bleached flour*
Blended sugar (sugaridextrose)
Brown sugar* (generally OK if no caramel color)
Calcium citrate
Calcium fumarate
Calcium gluconate
Calcium lactate
Calcium magnesium acetate (CMA)
Calcium stearate
Calcium stearoyl lactylate
Caramel and caramel color
Carbonmethylcellulose sodium
Cellulose microcrystalline
Cellulose, methyl
Cellulose, powdered
Cetearyl glucoside
Choline chloride
Citric acid*
Citrus cloud emulsion (CCS)
Coco glycerides (cocoglycerides)
Confectioners sugar
Corn alcohol, corn gluten
Corn extract
Corn flour
Corn oil, corn oil margarine
Corn starch
Corn sweetener, corn sugar
Corn syrup, corn syrup solids
Corn, popcorn, cornmeal
Cornstarch, cornflour
Crosscarmellose sodium
Crystalline dextrose
Crystalline fructose
Cyclodextrin
DATUM (a dough conditioner)
Decyl glucoside
Decyl polyglucose
Dextrin
Dextrose (also found in IV solutions)
Dextrose anything (such as monohydrate or anhydrous)
d-Gluconic acid
Distilled white vinegar
Drying agent
Erythorbic acid
Erythritol
Ethanol
Ethocel 20
Ethylcellulose
Ethylene
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl maltol
Fibersol-2
Flavorings*
Food starch
Fructose*
Fruit juice concentrate*
Fumaric acid
Germ/germ meal
Gluconate
Gluconic acid
Glucono delta-lactone
Gluconolactone
Glucosamine
Glucose*
Glucose syrup* (also found in IV solutions)
Glutamate
Gluten
Gluten feed/meal
Glycerides
Glycerin*
Glycerol
Golden syrup
Grits
High fructose corn syrup
Hominy
Honey*
Hydrolyzed corn
Hydrolyzed corn protein
Hydrolyzed vegetable protein
Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose
Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose pthalate (HPMCP)
Inositol
Invert syrup or sugar
Iodized salt
Lactate
Lactic acid*
Lauryl glucoside
Lecithin
Linoleic acid
Lysine
Magnesium citrate
Magnesium fumarate
Magnesium stearate
Maize
Malic acid
Malonic acid
Malt syrup from corn
Malt, malt extract
Maltitol
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltose
Mannitol
Methyl gluceth
Methyl glucose
Methyl glucoside
Methylcellulose
Microcrystaline cellulose
Modified cellulose gum
Modified corn starch
Modified food starch
Molasses* (corn syrup may be present; know your product)
Mono- and di- glycerides
Monosodium glutamate
MSG
Natural flavorings*
Olestra/Olean
Polenta
Polydextrose
Polylactic acid (PLA)
Polysorbates* (e.g. Polysorbate 80)
Polyvinyl acetate
Potassium citrate
Potassium fumarate
Potassium gluconate
Powdered sugar
Pregelatinized starch
Propionic acid
Propylene glycol*
Propylene glycol monostearate*
Saccharin
Salt (iodized salt)
Semolina (unless from wheat)
Simethicone
Sodium carboxymethylcellulose
Sodium citrate
Sodium erythorbate
Sodium fumarate
Sodium lactate
Sodium starch glycolate
Sodium stearoyl fumarate
Sorbate
Sorbic acid
Sorbitan* (anything)
Sorbitol
Sorghum* (not all is bad; the syrup and/or grain CAN be mixed with corn)
Splenda (Artificial sweetener)
Starch (any kind that's not specified)
Stearic acid
Stearoyls
Sucralose (Artificial sweetener)
Sucrose
Sugar* (not identified as cane or beet)
Threonine
Tocopherol (vitamin E)
Treacle (aka golden syrup)
Triethyl citrate
Unmodified starch
Vanilla, natural flavoring
Vanilla, pure or extract
Vanillin
Vegetable anything that's not specific*
Vinegar, distilled white
Vinyl acetate
Vitamin C* and Vitamin E*
Vitamins*
Xanthan gum
Xylitol
Yeast*
Zea mays
Zein
Hi Jen,
As I recall, your overall score on the 11 antigenic foods was 9. If that's correct, then it means that all the results of that test are probably irrelevant. IOW, all of those foods should be safe. I would avoid oats, anyway, though, because most of us are sensitive to oats. The amino acid structure of avenin in oats is too close to the amino acid structure of gluten in wheat, and it tends to confuse our immune systems, so that they react to it anyway.
If corn seems to bother you, just don't eat it every day, and you should be OK.
Tex
As I recall, your overall score on the 11 antigenic foods was 9. If that's correct, then it means that all the results of that test are probably irrelevant. IOW, all of those foods should be safe. I would avoid oats, anyway, though, because most of us are sensitive to oats. The amino acid structure of avenin in oats is too close to the amino acid structure of gluten in wheat, and it tends to confuse our immune systems, so that they react to it anyway.
If corn seems to bother you, just don't eat it every day, and you should be OK.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.