Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
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Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
I have had MC for about 8-9 years and I was just diagnosed with diverticulitis, which I probably have had for a quite some time (I have had chronic high Igm for a long). I have a lot of D lately I can't stop, Pepto Bismol hasn't helped. How do I treat both at the same time, they say low fiber for MC and high fiber for diverticulitis? I have a lot of gas and my GP suggested Citrucel because it won't produce gas. I've been taking that for about a week, its helped a little. Is there a medication I can suggest to my Dr.? I am GF and DF since my MC diagnosis. The diverticulitis is not causing any pain just gas and D. How do you travel with these diseases!? I am one big autoimmune specimen, I have MS, MC, hypothyroid, arthritis, raynauds, and now diverticulitis. With a chronic high Igm I worry about cancer even though my other immunoglobulins are normal I appreciate any help you can give me!
Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
I assume you're aware that for decades, doctors recommended fiber for MC patients, also. Recent research proves that they were dead wrong. I'm not so sure that fiber is beneficial for diverticulitis, either. That recommendation for fiber by doctors is probably based on the need to maintain motility. However, based on personal experience, I can tell you that fiber doesn't always work. Diverticulitis,in some cases, can cause a stenosis (narrowing) of the colon in the Sigmoid region. As I found out later, when my GI Doc did my colonoscopy, he noted such a stenosis in his notes, but never mentioned it to me. About five years later, I had to have emergency abdominal surgery one night because of a blockage at that stenosis. I have little doubt that fiber contributed to that blockage. About 7 inches of my colon had to be removed, without any opportunity to clean out first. I was lucky that I didn't die of infection.
If you search the published online medical research, you will find that the inflammation pattern for diverticulitis is very similar to the inflammation pattern for LC. It involves lymphocytic infiltration into the epithelia. We already know that fiber is not recommended for LC patients, because it irritates the mucosal surface of the epithelia of the colon, resulting in increased inflammation and increased intestinal damage. Why would that not be true then, for diverticulitis, since it is marked by the same pattern of inflammation?
Unfortunately, gastroenterology is plagued by far too many practitioners who don't keep up with the literature, and they continue to disperse outdated, and incorrect advice (in my opinion). Please note that I am not a doctor, but in my opinion, fiber should be contraindicated for diverticulitis, also. I believe you will find that if you are meticulous with your diet, and manage to avoid all your food intolerances, and all sources of cross-contamination, your intestinal inflammation level will go way down, along with the general inflammation level of your entire body, and most, possibly all of your autoimmune symptoms will slowly fade away.
In my opinion, autoimmune diseases are incorrectly described. They are not actually autoimmune diseases — they are a collection of symptoms that result from eating foods that cause our immune system to produce antibodies. All we have to do is to totally avoid those foods, and the so-called autoimmune issues will fade away. Again, please remember that this is just my opinion, but I've probably spend more time studying published medical research, than many doctors. Doctor spend their day treating patients. I spend my days studying medical research data, and writing about the issues that doctors treat incorrectly because they misinterpret the research data.
Unfortunately, med school provides almost no training to med students in nutritional and dietary issues, and they don't appear to be in any hurry to correct that problem. Consequently, you and I know far more than most doctors can possibly know about food sensitivities, their consequences, and how to correctly treat them.
Regarding traveling with MC/diarrhea, we have a special forum devoted to that topic:
viewforum.php?f=62&sid=34a7035a4abc1658b9a7924ac8378d4f
I hope this helps.
Tex
If you search the published online medical research, you will find that the inflammation pattern for diverticulitis is very similar to the inflammation pattern for LC. It involves lymphocytic infiltration into the epithelia. We already know that fiber is not recommended for LC patients, because it irritates the mucosal surface of the epithelia of the colon, resulting in increased inflammation and increased intestinal damage. Why would that not be true then, for diverticulitis, since it is marked by the same pattern of inflammation?
Unfortunately, gastroenterology is plagued by far too many practitioners who don't keep up with the literature, and they continue to disperse outdated, and incorrect advice (in my opinion). Please note that I am not a doctor, but in my opinion, fiber should be contraindicated for diverticulitis, also. I believe you will find that if you are meticulous with your diet, and manage to avoid all your food intolerances, and all sources of cross-contamination, your intestinal inflammation level will go way down, along with the general inflammation level of your entire body, and most, possibly all of your autoimmune symptoms will slowly fade away.
In my opinion, autoimmune diseases are incorrectly described. They are not actually autoimmune diseases — they are a collection of symptoms that result from eating foods that cause our immune system to produce antibodies. All we have to do is to totally avoid those foods, and the so-called autoimmune issues will fade away. Again, please remember that this is just my opinion, but I've probably spend more time studying published medical research, than many doctors. Doctor spend their day treating patients. I spend my days studying medical research data, and writing about the issues that doctors treat incorrectly because they misinterpret the research data.
Unfortunately, med school provides almost no training to med students in nutritional and dietary issues, and they don't appear to be in any hurry to correct that problem. Consequently, you and I know far more than most doctors can possibly know about food sensitivities, their consequences, and how to correctly treat them.
Regarding traveling with MC/diarrhea, we have a special forum devoted to that topic:
viewforum.php?f=62&sid=34a7035a4abc1658b9a7924ac8378d4f
I hope this helps.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
Thank you Tex for the information! Have you heard of KBMO Diagnostics? My holistic Dr. recommended them. They test for all kinds of food intolerances including Zonulin essay and a gut barrier panel? I know I can do an elimination diet, but that takes so long and I don't need to lose any more weight. Or is Entero Lab a better source?
https://kbmodiagnostics.com/
Thank you, I appreciate your knowledge!
Barb
Happy Easter!
https://kbmodiagnostics.com/
Thank you, I appreciate your knowledge!
Barb
Happy Easter!
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Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
Regarding the KMBO test
is it blood or poop they use as the source for the test
if it is blood then in my opinion it is not as good as entorlab
for the intolerance to be tracked in the blood, the patient would have had to been eating that food item for months prior to the blood test
(that is why many people get false negatives for celiac, if they have avoid gluten for months it will not show up in the blood test)
the enterlab tests are done on poop and the groups of foods ie soy, if you have soy reaction in the enterlab then we know to avoid ALL legumes
weight loss will stop when
a) you reduce inflammation
b) start to heal
c) you are calm about the diagnosis and life with MC
there is no quick fix in MC world, it takes time to heal.
is it blood or poop they use as the source for the test
if it is blood then in my opinion it is not as good as entorlab
for the intolerance to be tracked in the blood, the patient would have had to been eating that food item for months prior to the blood test
(that is why many people get false negatives for celiac, if they have avoid gluten for months it will not show up in the blood test)
the enterlab tests are done on poop and the groups of foods ie soy, if you have soy reaction in the enterlab then we know to avoid ALL legumes
weight loss will stop when
a) you reduce inflammation
b) start to heal
c) you are calm about the diagnosis and life with MC
there is no quick fix in MC world, it takes time to heal.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
Hello Barb,
I wasn't familiar with the KMBO tests, So I checked out the link that you provided. I can't see anywhere where it specifies the medium used for the tests, but based on the fact that they are looking for IgG antibodies (based on their listed patents), I believe Gabes' suspicions are right on target — It appears that they are using blood tests. Regardless of what they are using, IgG antibodies are a rather poor marker to be assessing when trying to determine food sensitivities, because the reactions in the intestines primarily produce IgA antibodies, and IgA antibodies rarely show up in the blood in sufficient quantities to provide an accurate assessment.
Therefore, as Gabe's suggested, I'm going to agree that using the KMBO tests will provide far more false negatives and false positives than the Enterolab stool tests. Generally, for most of us, we have found that the Enterolab stool test results are right on target, and surprisingly accurate and repeatable, compared with all other food sensitivity tests. For my money, they're the only game in town, And most of us consider the money we spend for their tests to be the best money we ever spent on our health care.
And happy Easter to you, two.
Tex
I wasn't familiar with the KMBO tests, So I checked out the link that you provided. I can't see anywhere where it specifies the medium used for the tests, but based on the fact that they are looking for IgG antibodies (based on their listed patents), I believe Gabes' suspicions are right on target — It appears that they are using blood tests. Regardless of what they are using, IgG antibodies are a rather poor marker to be assessing when trying to determine food sensitivities, because the reactions in the intestines primarily produce IgA antibodies, and IgA antibodies rarely show up in the blood in sufficient quantities to provide an accurate assessment.
Therefore, as Gabe's suggested, I'm going to agree that using the KMBO tests will provide far more false negatives and false positives than the Enterolab stool tests. Generally, for most of us, we have found that the Enterolab stool test results are right on target, and surprisingly accurate and repeatable, compared with all other food sensitivity tests. For my money, they're the only game in town, And most of us consider the money we spend for their tests to be the best money we ever spent on our health care.
And happy Easter to you, two.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
Tex
it took me a while to confirm that it was blood - the site is very marketing orientated rather than discussing science
it took me a while to confirm that it was blood - the site is very marketing orientated rather than discussing science
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Re: Diverticulitis and MC how do I treat both?
You're mighty right about that.Gabes wrote:the site is very marketing orientated rather than discussing science
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.