Amusing Anecdote
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Amusing Anecdote
First of all, I hope I'm not cluttering up this forum. I joined a week or so ago and I feel like I'm sharing every little thought I have now that I finally made an account.
I just wanted to share something I find interesting: My cat also has IBD and has to be on steroids (prednisolone). But one of the first things the vet told me was that he needs to be on a novel protein or hydrolyzed protein diet. Meaning he needs to eat proteins that he has never in his life eaten before, or he needs to eat a kibble that breaks down the protein into very small pieces, so small that the body doesn’t recognize it for what it is. Also, when she orders blood tests, she'll say things like "this marker is on the high end of normal" or the "low end of normal" and we need to keep an eye on it, etc.
I suppose I'm just venting, but I find it laughable that my cat's vet has better insight into, and concern for my cat than any human doctor seems to have for other humans. I keep seeing that people on this forum have allergies to specific proteins and their enterolab results are essentially saying, "go on a novel protein diet."
Regarding bloodwork, my doctor says normal is normal (unless of course we're talking about cholesterol which she seems to think could always be lower even if it's in the "normal" range). Maybe normal is normal. But, for example, my vitamin D levels are 21 ng/mL and the normal range is 20 ng/mL to 79 ng/mL. Would you guys, as the experts of MC, consider that on the low end of normal? Or do you find normal means normal for us?
Sometimes I think if my cat's vet were my own doctor I might have found some relief sooner
Thanks always for your feedback.
Ali
I just wanted to share something I find interesting: My cat also has IBD and has to be on steroids (prednisolone). But one of the first things the vet told me was that he needs to be on a novel protein or hydrolyzed protein diet. Meaning he needs to eat proteins that he has never in his life eaten before, or he needs to eat a kibble that breaks down the protein into very small pieces, so small that the body doesn’t recognize it for what it is. Also, when she orders blood tests, she'll say things like "this marker is on the high end of normal" or the "low end of normal" and we need to keep an eye on it, etc.
I suppose I'm just venting, but I find it laughable that my cat's vet has better insight into, and concern for my cat than any human doctor seems to have for other humans. I keep seeing that people on this forum have allergies to specific proteins and their enterolab results are essentially saying, "go on a novel protein diet."
Regarding bloodwork, my doctor says normal is normal (unless of course we're talking about cholesterol which she seems to think could always be lower even if it's in the "normal" range). Maybe normal is normal. But, for example, my vitamin D levels are 21 ng/mL and the normal range is 20 ng/mL to 79 ng/mL. Would you guys, as the experts of MC, consider that on the low end of normal? Or do you find normal means normal for us?
Sometimes I think if my cat's vet were my own doctor I might have found some relief sooner
Thanks always for your feedback.
Ali
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Love this post Ali
the reason being is that 'Vets' are trained to look at the whole body of the animal and treat the whole animal.
Gastro specialists only focus on the gut, Dermatology only focus the skin, Dentists only focus the teeth/mouth
even though the Vit D result is in normal range, in auto immune sense it would be good to be in the mid range of normal. So if the immune system does try to fight a virus or you have excess inflammation you have the stores of Vit D there.
the reason being is that 'Vets' are trained to look at the whole body of the animal and treat the whole animal.
Gastro specialists only focus on the gut, Dermatology only focus the skin, Dentists only focus the teeth/mouth
even though the Vit D result is in normal range, in auto immune sense it would be good to be in the mid range of normal. So if the immune system does try to fight a virus or you have excess inflammation you have the stores of Vit D there.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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Ah, that makes so much sense. I wish doctors worked that way, or more of them wanted to break the norms and consider the whole body. Even as a layman, I'm in awe of how interconnected the human body is.
I was inspired to write this post, both because of what I've seen in terms of novel protein discussion here, and because I had elk today for the first time. I normally try to wait till the later end of the work day to eat for fear I will get that immediately-after-the-first-bite urgency, but I was too hungry and couldn't wait. Not once have I had to squeeze my cheeks and say a prayer !
Thanks for the response Gabes.
I was inspired to write this post, both because of what I've seen in terms of novel protein discussion here, and because I had elk today for the first time. I normally try to wait till the later end of the work day to eat for fear I will get that immediately-after-the-first-bite urgency, but I was too hungry and couldn't wait. Not once have I had to squeeze my cheeks and say a prayer !
Thanks for the response Gabes.
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there are functional practitioners (that look at whole of body) out there.
In Australia functional GP's are rare and very expensive - they also struggle to get government support (subsidies) to do the functional testing they would like to do so with extra expense of seeing the doctor and expensive tests it can be to costly for most people
Functional super knowledgeable chiropractors are the ones that gave me my life back.
They were able to calm my immune system, balance methylation cycle (which resolved most of my life long hormone issues), cleared body of microtoxins etc, healed gut,
it took 2 years - it was like spinning plates where we worked on hormones for a few months, then gut for a few months, then immune for a few months, back to hormones again, gut again, immune again etc. it was step by step and we only moved onto the next step as my body was ready.
In Australia functional GP's are rare and very expensive - they also struggle to get government support (subsidies) to do the functional testing they would like to do so with extra expense of seeing the doctor and expensive tests it can be to costly for most people
Functional super knowledgeable chiropractors are the ones that gave me my life back.
They were able to calm my immune system, balance methylation cycle (which resolved most of my life long hormone issues), cleared body of microtoxins etc, healed gut,
it took 2 years - it was like spinning plates where we worked on hormones for a few months, then gut for a few months, then immune for a few months, back to hormones again, gut again, immune again etc. it was step by step and we only moved onto the next step as my body was ready.
Gabes Ryan
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Glad it went well with the Elk -
I was lucky that here in Australia, Lamb is a grass fed stock and its readily available and not expensive.
this also linked back to one of my theories of eating like my ancestors did. With mostly Irish in heritage - lamb and veggies became my staple meals.
I was lucky that here in Australia, Lamb is a grass fed stock and its readily available and not expensive.
this also linked back to one of my theories of eating like my ancestors did. With mostly Irish in heritage - lamb and veggies became my staple meals.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
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Gabes, I totally buy into the "eating like our ancestors did" thinking, too. I'm quite the mutt though so I don't know how specific I can get or if I even need to get that specific. But I'll do some research.
I am VERY curious about this chiropractor thing though. My work actually has chiropractors on site and I saw one a couple of weeks ago, but I don't believe I even began to discuss my digestion issues because I had no idea that it could be pertinent info to them. Is there a post you've made that explains this in further detail that I could look to?
I am VERY curious about this chiropractor thing though. My work actually has chiropractors on site and I saw one a couple of weeks ago, but I don't believe I even began to discuss my digestion issues because I had no idea that it could be pertinent info to them. Is there a post you've made that explains this in further detail that I could look to?
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A good resource is the book by Blue Wiggle Anthony Field - how I got my wiggle back (the wiggles are the Australian kids entertainment group)
it was that book that got me on the path of researching functional chiropractic to heal chronic illness
https://www.amazon.com/How-Got-My-Wiggl ... 1118019334
I found chiropractors that had not just chiropractic degrees but also biomedical science (cell health) and had also done additional functional courses in areas of gut health, hormones, methylation, kinesiology.
part of this healing process was also the mental and emotional aspects of healing
Prior and post my MC diagnosis and prior to the functional chiropractic journey, I had been seeing a functional acupuncturist for years. these treatments helped to balance immune system and calm inflammation. I only stopped when I moved interstate.
treatments alone won't cure you. low inflammation eating plan, low toxin lifestyle, the right supplements, the mental and emotional aspects with these treatments is the collective balance that worked for me.
At the time I started seeing the functional chiropractors I had multiple conditions in bad state, was on temporary disability as I struggling to work. I been through 3 years of highly stressful events.
I know have 'maintenance' treatments every 3 weeks.
it was that book that got me on the path of researching functional chiropractic to heal chronic illness
https://www.amazon.com/How-Got-My-Wiggl ... 1118019334
I found chiropractors that had not just chiropractic degrees but also biomedical science (cell health) and had also done additional functional courses in areas of gut health, hormones, methylation, kinesiology.
part of this healing process was also the mental and emotional aspects of healing
Prior and post my MC diagnosis and prior to the functional chiropractic journey, I had been seeing a functional acupuncturist for years. these treatments helped to balance immune system and calm inflammation. I only stopped when I moved interstate.
treatments alone won't cure you. low inflammation eating plan, low toxin lifestyle, the right supplements, the mental and emotional aspects with these treatments is the collective balance that worked for me.
At the time I started seeing the functional chiropractors I had multiple conditions in bad state, was on temporary disability as I struggling to work. I been through 3 years of highly stressful events.
I know have 'maintenance' treatments every 3 weeks.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama