Hi! I have gotten my results back and was hoping to get some input. I saw in another member's results that she had the least reaction to rice, and it was mentioned she can keep eating it. Would you say that's true for me as well, or did I misinterpret that / is it better to eliminate all of these foods altogether? Lastly, this tested for tuna, but not other fish like salmon. My reaction to tuna was the least of the 4 meats, but i'm curious what this means about other fish since I love to have salmon.
As always, I appreciate your guys' dedication to helping <3.
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA
104 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA
70 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA
146 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA
65 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods
66 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+)
Corn
Rice
Beef
Pork
Tuna
Walnut
Almond
White potato
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+)
Oat
Chicken
Cashew
Fat Malabsorption Stool Test (Fecal Fat) Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score
314 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units)
Grains
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Rice
Meats
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Beef
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Pork
Meat toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Tuna
Nuts
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nightshades
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
Ali M's Enterolab Results
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Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
We react to the common proteins that we've been eating all our lives. Foods that we don't normally eat are usually safe. You can get some ideas on safe foods from a newsletter the Microscopic Colitis Foundation published almost 2 years ago. For your convenience here's a direct link where you can either read, or download a copy:
https://www.microscopiccolitisfoundatio ... 479987.pdf
Your overall score on the 11 other antigenic foods was 66. That's very high. Consequently, there's a good chance that rice may cause you to react. If your score on that panel had been in the lower teens, or at least below 20, you might have been able to eat rice, at least on a rotational basis. It's not impossible that you might be able to eat it with a score of 66, but it's very unlikely.
If you react to tuna, you probably react to salmon and most of the saltwater fish. It's possible that you might not react to freshwater fish, but that's not a certainty, because of the high score. As the newsletter recommends, you should be able to eat shellfish safely, unless you were previously allergic to them.
I hope this helps.
Tex
https://www.microscopiccolitisfoundatio ... 479987.pdf
Your overall score on the 11 other antigenic foods was 66. That's very high. Consequently, there's a good chance that rice may cause you to react. If your score on that panel had been in the lower teens, or at least below 20, you might have been able to eat rice, at least on a rotational basis. It's not impossible that you might be able to eat it with a score of 66, but it's very unlikely.
If you react to tuna, you probably react to salmon and most of the saltwater fish. It's possible that you might not react to freshwater fish, but that's not a certainty, because of the high score. As the newsletter recommends, you should be able to eat shellfish safely, unless you were previously allergic to them.
I hope this helps.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
oh man, that's so sad about the salmon! i hope i can add things back in in the future, but not sure how that works yet.
Thank you Tex for the very helpful link. I'm really grateful to this group.
Thank you Tex for the very helpful link. I'm really grateful to this group.
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
After you've been in remission for a while, you may be able to add some of those foods (such as salmon) back into your diet, but don't rush it — the intestines are very slow to heal. It takes months, and for some of us, years, depending on how much damage we have to heal, and how fast we heal. The older we get, usually, the slower we heal.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
my observation of the results is that the gluten result is very high.
how long have you been gluten free?
do you share kitchen at home and work with others that are eating gluten?
how long have you been gluten free?
do you share kitchen at home and work with others that are eating gluten?
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Hey Gabes, sorry just seeing your response!
I haven't directly had gluten in 4 months. I have only dappled in a scant few packaged foods in that time, but all were meant to be gluten-free. That said, I also didn't know just how huge it was to avoid even the tiniest trace of gluten, so I have only just begun to double check, even meat, for "packaged in a facility that handles gluten".
My kitchen at home is gluten-free. The only thing I feel I'm at cross-contamination risk for is that my boyfriend and I use cast iron (meaning no soap for washing) and he still eats beef. Is that a level of concern I need to have with meat?
That said, my work is 100% not a gluten-free environment. I'm seriously considering putting a request in for getting permission to work from home, but the company I work for is very strict about it and I get anxious even thinking about asking my manager.
Another thing I was curious to ask with regards to my results, was why is turkey okay if chicken is not, while salmon/other salt water fish might not be okay if tuna is not? Do squid, clams and octopus qualify as salt water fish?
Thanks again!
Ali
I haven't directly had gluten in 4 months. I have only dappled in a scant few packaged foods in that time, but all were meant to be gluten-free. That said, I also didn't know just how huge it was to avoid even the tiniest trace of gluten, so I have only just begun to double check, even meat, for "packaged in a facility that handles gluten".
My kitchen at home is gluten-free. The only thing I feel I'm at cross-contamination risk for is that my boyfriend and I use cast iron (meaning no soap for washing) and he still eats beef. Is that a level of concern I need to have with meat?
That said, my work is 100% not a gluten-free environment. I'm seriously considering putting a request in for getting permission to work from home, but the company I work for is very strict about it and I get anxious even thinking about asking my manager.
Another thing I was curious to ask with regards to my results, was why is turkey okay if chicken is not, while salmon/other salt water fish might not be okay if tuna is not? Do squid, clams and octopus qualify as salt water fish?
Thanks again!
Ali
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Hello Ali,
Gabes is probably busy, so I'll try to help. Regarding cast-iron cookware, if beef were the only thing ever cooked in it, then that shouldn't make much difference. But if it was ever used to cook anything that contained gluten or soy, then it's probably a source of cross-contamination, because cast-iron is very porous, and readily absorbs molecules from foods cooked in it. Antigliadin antibodies have a 120-day half-life, so the effects of cross-contamination by gluten can last a long time. The half-life of most other food sensitivities, for example, is only five or six days, for comparison.
Whether or not your work environment is gluten free should be irrelevant, because virtually none of us work In a gluten free environment. As long as you only eat food that you, yourself prepared, and are careful that you don't place it on a countertop or something else that might be contaminated, without using a protective barrier, such as a napkin or paper plate, You shouldn't have any problems with cross-contamination at work.
A detailed and proper explanation of why certain foods, such as chicken, cause our immune system to produce antibodies, while foods such as turkey do not, would require a rather long discussion involving taxonomy and evolution, which would waste a lot of space here, and a lot of time writing and then reading the details. Suffice to say that turkeys evolved from a different branch of the Aves class, resulting in a DNA structure different from that of chickens. Likewise for various fish. Therefore, the amino acid sequences of the molecules in their proteins do not contain the peptides to which our immune systems react.
Shellfish have totally different DNA structures from other aquatic species, so that as a group, they are usually a safe food choice for any of us, unless we had a previous allergy to them. So shrimp, prawns, oysters, squid, mussels octopi, lobsters, crabs, etc., should all be safe food options.
Remember, this is only my opinion, so none of this is chiseled in stone. I hope this helps.
Tex
Gabes is probably busy, so I'll try to help. Regarding cast-iron cookware, if beef were the only thing ever cooked in it, then that shouldn't make much difference. But if it was ever used to cook anything that contained gluten or soy, then it's probably a source of cross-contamination, because cast-iron is very porous, and readily absorbs molecules from foods cooked in it. Antigliadin antibodies have a 120-day half-life, so the effects of cross-contamination by gluten can last a long time. The half-life of most other food sensitivities, for example, is only five or six days, for comparison.
Whether or not your work environment is gluten free should be irrelevant, because virtually none of us work In a gluten free environment. As long as you only eat food that you, yourself prepared, and are careful that you don't place it on a countertop or something else that might be contaminated, without using a protective barrier, such as a napkin or paper plate, You shouldn't have any problems with cross-contamination at work.
A detailed and proper explanation of why certain foods, such as chicken, cause our immune system to produce antibodies, while foods such as turkey do not, would require a rather long discussion involving taxonomy and evolution, which would waste a lot of space here, and a lot of time writing and then reading the details. Suffice to say that turkeys evolved from a different branch of the Aves class, resulting in a DNA structure different from that of chickens. Likewise for various fish. Therefore, the amino acid sequences of the molecules in their proteins do not contain the peptides to which our immune systems react.
Shellfish have totally different DNA structures from other aquatic species, so that as a group, they are usually a safe food choice for any of us, unless we had a previous allergy to them. So shrimp, prawns, oysters, squid, mussels octopi, lobsters, crabs, etc., should all be safe food options.
Remember, this is only my opinion, so none of this is chiseled in stone. I hope this helps.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Thank you for the thorough explanation, as always, Tex. It's always appreciated. I'm sure grateful I don't have a shellfish allergy.
I don't believe our pans have had gluten or soy on them as we did lye baths on them before we went on this diet, but perhaps as an abundance of caution, I'll lye-bath them again.
I don't believe our pans have had gluten or soy on them as we did lye baths on them before we went on this diet, but perhaps as an abundance of caution, I'll lye-bath them again.
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Hi Ali M, Tex, and Gabes,
Just joined last month and this is my first post. Not sure yet how to post a new post however, been navigating ALOT!
I am seriously considering Enterolab testing. I was diagnosed with MCC back in 2019, had a flare-up in 2021, and am now
into my third week of WD so think this is more of a relapse. I suspect several triggers occurred prior to April 12, i.e. stress, eating out several times, pizza, pasta.... I've been keeping to this site's phase one diet pretty closely; started dr. Bests magnesium two days ago, upped D3, drinking Gatorlyte.....
Your results look very thorough. On the Enterolab website, it confused me as to which tests to order.
Can you share which ones you ordered recently?
Thanks so much,
I_zwem
Just joined last month and this is my first post. Not sure yet how to post a new post however, been navigating ALOT!
I am seriously considering Enterolab testing. I was diagnosed with MCC back in 2019, had a flare-up in 2021, and am now
into my third week of WD so think this is more of a relapse. I suspect several triggers occurred prior to April 12, i.e. stress, eating out several times, pizza, pasta.... I've been keeping to this site's phase one diet pretty closely; started dr. Bests magnesium two days ago, upped D3, drinking Gatorlyte.....
Your results look very thorough. On the Enterolab website, it confused me as to which tests to order.
Can you share which ones you ordered recently?
Thanks so much,
I_zwem
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Welcome to the group. For most of us, the combination of the A1+ C1 panels provide the most useful results. If you are a vegan, or vegetarian, the combination of the A2 + C2 panels should provide the most useful results.
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
Again, welcome aboard, and please feel free to ask anything.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
Thank-you so much Tex! So grateful I found this site. Starting to mend and appreciate all the helpful information.
Kind regards,
I_zwem
Kind regards,
I_zwem
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Re: Ali M's Enterolab Results
re the workplace aspects - my suggestion is to bring your own cutlery cup etc each day and wash them at home
do not use any of the shared items in the workplace kitchen (chopping boards, knives etc)
do not put any of your items in a shared dishwasher
RE your partners cooking - so long as he is not using any bastes / flavourings that would have gluten you should be ok with sharing the pan
do not use any of the shared items in the workplace kitchen (chopping boards, knives etc)
do not put any of your items in a shared dishwasher
RE your partners cooking - so long as he is not using any bastes / flavourings that would have gluten you should be ok with sharing the pan
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama