Vitamin D and zinc

[charlie fh]

Really interesting. I have many mercury type fillings and will definatly consider replacing them. All my MC problems started after a bad tooth and bad dentist. mainly because of all the anti biotics they put me on. And ibruprofen!

Im finding it hard to find a functional dr over here .. but im taking this methylation thing slow ..trying one thing at a time. B12 is the big one for me i think. and try and get more green veg.

with regards to zinc ..do you take it everyday? Im struggerling to get balance right, Thank you!

[charlie fh]

Hi there ... Hope all is well

Was curious on your opinion regarding our recent discussion on mthfr etc. I recently started taking 1000mg of b12 methylcobalmin and 100mg of b1 thiamin hcl based off my methylation report... and noticed strange ibs type cramp feelings along with loose bowels and WD one time. I read that these type of vits like B1 can make you feel worse before you feel and improvement ?? is this nonsense? i dont want to agrivate my gut and mc .

Also what are your thoughts generally on higher doses of B1? There is lots of info around stating it can help with gut nerve function etc.

Thank you !
Charlie

[Gabes-Apg]

Charlie
it is difficult to say

I didnt start methylation cycle type supplements until after I had good gut healing.

in some aspects improving methylation cycle does improve detoxing process so your body will clear toxins and this can cause a change in poop quality.

[charlie fh]

Hi gabes

yes i did wonder if that might be the case and detoxing might make skin worse ?? i sometimes get very small pimples on my nose after taking methyl b.

Do you take methyl b's all year round or do just take when you feel you need. im getting the sense its a balancing act and replenishing vit bs when you need them etc? same question in regards to zinc as well? I eat a fair amount of meat so wonder about this.

Many thanks for your advice !

[Pebbledash]

I've been taking 5000 iu since my diagnosis of celiacs/MC when my d3 was around 16 ng/ml.

Interestingly, my level now remains constant at about 55 ng/ml.

Dr John Campbell has just reviewed (May 15 2023) new research that indicates significantly higher levels are beneficial (he personally takes 8000 iu so I have changed my own to 10,000 per day at least for a few days a week). It is generally advised to take vitamin K2 with D3--I think it helps to make sure calcium is correctly absorbed in the bones. I take 200mg K2 and also magnesium daily.

This video is well worth your time. The dosage used in this study is MUCH higher than the normal recommend daily intake, as is the upper safe limit. Some subjects with particular diseases took 50,000 iu per day, though most were on 5000 to 10,0000. Zero complications at all.

Paul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3_t-EQIy0s

Abstract:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30611908/

[charlie fh]

Hi Paul good to meet you

Thanks for your insight and this info i will check it out. Ive seen similar articles regarding d3 . My Dr doesnt want me to take d3 anymore as i had a 'high' count . Im still taking but only 1000iu. I was only taking 4000 and my score was 196nmol which is about 80ng i think??? .. so i wonder how it got higher.

out of interest do you take pills or drops? Ive been using a mouth spray which you spray under the tongue.

Charlie

[Pebbledash]

Hi Paul good to meet you

Thanks for your insight and this info i will check it out. Ive seen similar articles regarding d3 . My Dr doesnt want me to take d3 anymore as i had a 'high' count . Im still taking but only 1000iu. I was only taking 4000 and my score was 196nmol which is about 80ng i think??? .. so i wonder how it got higher.

out of interest do you take pills or drops? Ive been using a mouth spray which you spray under the tongue.

Charlie

Hi Charlie,

Nice to get acquainted. Perhaps your body absorbs D3 better than mine, as I have been on 5000 iu daily for > 7 years and my blood levels remain at approx. 55 ng/ml. I just take capsules--didn't know that drops existed so might try them instead!

The standard range at my medical provider (Kaiser) is 20-79 ng/ml but the recent research suggests that this might be too conservative. I'm not sure what to make it of it, to be honest.

Cheers,
Paul

[tex]

Paul and Charlie,

For what it's worth, I take 5000 IU of vitamin D daily about half the year, and 5000 IU of vitamin D every other day, during the warmer part of the year, because I get a lot of sunshine most days then due to working outside, more. And I live on a farm, in sunny (usually) Central Texas. When I have my vitamin D level checked, usually in late spring and fall, it typically ranges between 45 and 55 ng/mL most of the time. I'd rather see it higher, but I have a bad habit of forgetting to take it about once or twice a week.

Tex

[Pebbledash]

Good to know, Tex.

It seems that 5000 iu a day works for both of us, though I'm raising my dose a little and will get my levels checked at an appropriate point.

I hope you're thriving.

Best,
Paul

PS I have been taking mesalamine (4 tabs) and budesonide (2 tabs) together for four months and it has really worked to stabilize my MC. I hope at some point I can titrate down but so far, so good.

[charlie fh]

HI there. Good to know. I expect you get alot more sun in texas than i do in london. I also work outside but most of the time it is grey and clouds.

I take this stuff https://betteryou.com/collections/vitamin-d-supplements

It may get absorded better that the pills im not sure but it clearly put more levels quite high.

[tex]

Thanks Paul,

I can't complain. I seem to be doing well.



Charlie,

I'll bet you're right — that form should be absorbed more easily

Tex

[charlie fh]

Hi there...

Just following on from previous discussion on methylation... Do you take methyl B's daily on when you feel they are needed? I eat a fair amount of meat so would pressume i dont need all the time . I have noticed if i take them for quite a long time i feel the opposite to how i shoud be feeling.. ife you get my meaning.

Thanks all the best

[tex]

I've taken one capsule of Thorne Laboratories Methyl Guard Plus, daily, for almost 10 years — ever since I discovered that I have methylation issues, after doing a 23andMe DNA test. Whenever I've tried doing without for a few weeks, my symptoms seem to deteriorate. If you don't have methylation issues, then you probably don't need to take it — especially not in the active form.

Tex

[charlie fh]

interesting thats good to know.. I do have methylation issues , not too bad but i have a few mutations. its hard to know what balance to strike but i think id better try thorne . they seem a good brand from what ive heard. i have been taking these... not sure if they are any good perhaps you can say?

https://www.lambertshealthcare.co.uk/vi ... b-complex/

Thank you.

[tex]

Those appear to be okay, at least I didn't notice any problems with the ingredients listed on the label.

Tex