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Kari,

Many thanks for that link. Yes, I was able to open it, and yes, soon after receiving my last booster in October, was about when my severe histamine problems began. And that was the only Moderna vaccine I've ever had. All this time since then, I've been wondering why on earth by symptoms suddenly became so severe, when I hadn't changed anything. It had never occurred to me that this might be associated with the vaccine. That article certainly describes my situation, and solves the mystery, so I'm very grateful for the link.

It sounds as though your symptoms have been much worse than mine, because my rash, and itching, has been confined mostly to my ankles, the tops of my feet, and my lower legs. If I slipped up on my diet, it would climb my legs.I tried antihistamines, and at first they seem to help, but they seem to lose efficacy after a few weeks of use. An aerosol spray based on a generic form of Benadryl seemed to help for a while, but it would only last for a few hours, so I was always afraid of overdosing. I found that Triamcinolone (a steroid cream) worked best. As I mentioned in my last post, the symptoms seem to be letting up now, so I'm going to try a few slices of bacon tomorrow morning to test that. I hope I won't be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

Again, many thanks, and I hope that your symptoms begin to let up soon, and that your SO will soon be able to have his surgery, and everything will go well.

Much love,

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Hi all,
Thank you Marcia.
In the meantime I did the special comb treatment of the lice clinic and I found nits in my hair. They are extreme small and you can only see them with a magnifying glass.
I am glad because I hope this indeed is the cause of my skin rash. But it is really strange that I never found a lice in my hair.
Maybe I always comb them out with normal hair combing.
It is 5 days ago I did the chemical treatment to kill all the lice and I will repeat it. I will see if my skin rash and the itch will disappear.
Thank you for your answers. I will keep you updated.
Sonja
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Tex,

Your reaction to the article was like mine. After over a year of suffering and wondering where in the world my skin outbreak came from, I finally feel there is a logical explanation that makes sense to me. During this year I have seen 2 dermatologists, 2 allergists, one rheumatologist, one neurologist and one primary care physician. None of them could give me a definitive diagnosis. I have been prescribed various treatments, including prednisone, Zyrtec, various steroid ointments (including the one you use), a drug called Dapsone (which had horrible side effects), and another one that I did not try for fear of an adverse reaction.

Anyhow, since you have been dealing with skin issues from the time you were young, I have a couple of questions for you:

If the reason for my outbreak is due to the covid vaccines and boosters, do you think that over time it will wear down and eventually resolve?

I'm treating the skin with Vanicream (moisturizer) twice a day and Desoximetasone (steroid ointment) as required (mostly at night), and I take a small dose of Alprazolam to be able to sleep. I'm eating a low histamine diet, as histamine is a definite trigger. Is there anything else you think I can do to manage the itching? Believe it or not I have found a medicated chapstick that works to some extent on "itchy bumps".

Hope you did well with the bacon (YUM:)?

If you come across any other research on the connection between the vaccines/boosters and skin issues, please let me know.

Thanks and all the best to you,

Kari
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Kari,

Saturday morning I ate a large pancake covered with blueberry syrup, and 4 thick slices of bacon, followed by a cup of coffee, with no reaction. I did take an antihistamine, just for insurance, although that didn't seem to work as insurance before. I'm up to 2 cups of coffee each morning, now, and I'll try breakfast sausage with my eggs and coffee tomorrow morning. As soon as I can get to a grocery store, I'm going to pick up some barely ripe bananas, freeze them, and then try them again, with almond butter, and cashew butter.

I've also been able to take warm showers without triggering a reaction. So far, it appears that when my histamine issues began to let up, they resolved relatively quickly. I'm still limiting my histamine intake, but I'm only limiting it the way I did before the Moderna booster. Obviously, your problem is lasting much longer, but I have a gut feeling that one of these days, your symptoms are going to fade away, just as mine did.

I had the 2 Pfizer vaccines, initially, +1 Pfizer booster, but it was the second booster, from Moderna, that cooked my goose. Before then, my histamine issues were manageable, as long as I limited my intake of high histamine foods. After the Moderna booster, I couldn't resolve my symptoms by diet restrictions, no matter what I did.

How many Moderna injections did you receive, In all?

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Tex,

Hahaha - that's amazing - SOOO happy for you!!! The only thing I'd do differently is thin instead of thick sliced bacon. I love all things pork. What do you use for pancake batter?

Getting back to skin issues, you'll be surprised to hear that I only had Pfizer. In the article, they say that people also react to Pfizer, but it's less prevalent. Anyhow, here is my story:

- Vaccines in February and March 2021.
- Started to have very itchy scalp and saw dermatologist who said there was no issue with my scalp.
- Developed a very itchy 'quarter sized patch on my belly. Dermatologist froze it and assured me that there were no other issues present.
- First booster in September 2021. Started having more skin problems, culminating in huge breakout all over my body at the end of the year.
- To various doctors as noted above.
- Started to feel better as time went on.
- Had second booster in September 2022.
- Condition worsened, but not as bad as the original outbreak.
- Present - finally, over the last couple of days, have felt better and am very hopeful that you're right that it will resolve over time!!!

Thank you for sharing your experience and giving me hope.

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Kari
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Kari,

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. I was thinking the Moderna vaccines were the problem, since my problems became so much worse after my Moderna booster.

I was apparently too ambitious. I use a Keurig coffee maker, and this morning, one of the cups of coffee I had was brewed from a Folger's Black Silk pod. Lately, every time I try a Folger's Black Silk pod, I have a reaction, about 12 hours later, just like I'm having now (my right ankle is itching (although so far, it doesn't seem nearly as bad as it has been in the past). Green Mountain Breakfast Blend and Doughnut Shop coffee has been working fine, but I thought I'd prove that I could tolerate the Folger's Black Silk coffee now. Looks like I can't, after all, so I may have to reintroduce things more slowly/carefully.

I make my pancakes using King Arthur Flour Company Classic Gluten-Free Pancake Mix. I can tolerate eggs, so I don't have to make a substitution for them, and I use almond milk to replace cow's milk. I use olive or canola oil instead of butter.

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Kari,

I apologize for the false alarm. Just disregard that rash alarm in my previous post. Apparently I'm gun shy from all the persistent itching in the past. Something in my sock must've been irritating my ankle, because when I took off my socks last night, there was no rash, and no itching, so I passed the Folgers coffee test, after all. :thumbsup:

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Good morning Tex,

Well, good for you!!! It looks like your "good" was my "bad" :roll: . I went out to eat yesterday feeling confident that after 3 days of some relief, I could celebrate. The breakout started last night, and this morning I'm a hot, itchy mess :sad: . I'd like to say "you live and learn", but that doesn't seem to apply to me:(.

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Tex,

3 more things:

1) Thank you for the pancake recipe. I will try it since I'm not crazy about the mix I have been using. Fortunately, I don't react to eggs.

2) My neighbor has the same symptoms as you - the rash is localized in her lower legs/ankles/feet. She has found a steroid cream that helps. The doctor she saw thought it might be a vein issue :roll: .

3) After several wrong diagnoses from qualified MD's (like Pemphigus, Mastocytosis, Atopic dermatitis) I have now figured out what I believe to be the correct diagnosis for my condition: CSU - chronic spontaneous urticaria. Just about everything they say about it checks out!!!

Hope you continue to be able to add foods back in successfully.

Love,
Kari
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Kari,

I know what you mean about the "live and learn" syndrome — every time I had a few good days without symptoms, the next morning I would try a cup of coffee, or a slice or two of bacon, and by nightfall I'd be regretting it. But I seem to actually be improving this time.

I never even tried to get a diagnosis, because I figured there were so many possibilities that I would be unlikely to be able to find a specialist who would be able to give me a correct diagnosis, anyway. We may never be able to completely ignore the histamine content of the foods in our diet, but if my situation is improving (as it appears to be), then surely, your situation will eventually improve, also. It's a shame that progress can be so excruciatingly slow.

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HI :wave:

I feel I need to respond to this as well....I've had all those unhelpful shots and that last one 1-14-22 finally gave me itching on the back side of my neck up into my hairline, it's been over a year and I can not get it to go away no matter how hard I try to relax, change diet, get plenty of rest, etc.....I'm 55 and our home is debt free and that doesn't even seem to help ease how I am feeling these days. I have a medical exemption now and will not be getting any further shot.

I will have to look at my histamine intake it appears :???: I had this down pat at one point, and I continue to still freeze foods so it must be coffee as I don't eat bacon every day like I used to.

Thank you for this post...it may be just the topic I needed right now.

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Tex,

I hope that you continue to improve and don't have a relapse this time!!! I totally get what you're saying about seeing "specialists". When my skin "erupted" I had no option but to seek help. It has been the worst physical ordeal I have experienced in my lifetime. The good thing about doctors is that they can prescribe helpful meds. As I have noted before, I was sent to one "specialist" after another with no one being able to provide a definitive diagnosis. CSU was never even mentioned. I did not know about its existence until I came across the Swiss research paper :shock: . Now I'm greatly relieved, as everything I read about the condition on the internet makes perfect sense for what I'm going through.

Erica,

So sorry to hear about your rash and hope it will eventually resolve. Histamine is a definite trigger for me and I try to be super careful not to have too much (it's impossible to eliminate it completely, which I'm sure you already know). I'm now well over a year into this ordeal, but after hearing from Tex and finding a diagnosis, I feel optimistic that it will resolve. This community of support is absolutely fabulous. It feels so good to have a place to come and vent and get advice.

Sonja,

I have been wondering if you've been able to resolve your issues? Hope you're doing well and thank you for starting this thread!!!

Love,
Kari
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Hi Kari,

Indeed it is helpful to know more about the skin rashes we all have.
My skin rash is still the same, now since 3 1/2 weeks and it is very itchy, painful. I eliminated the lice, one week ago and I still continue the special treatment to be sure.
But if the kin rash was caused by the lice, why is it not slowing down?
And I also wonder why I did not develop spots on my head, on the place where they have bitten me?

I take antihistamines and that seems to help a bit and paracetamol against the pain.
I did not have histaminproblems before, as far as I know. I am now avoiding my homemade chocalat, because I understood dat cacao is a trigger. Alcohol I stopped 2 1/2 weeks before and I don't drink coffee. I am just at the point of trying it again, because I would really like to be able to reintroduce it. I am also busy with slowly discontinuing HRT. At the moment things are on one hand more clear, but on the other hand more complicated, especially because of the skin rash.
Tomorrow I speak to my home doctor again.
Thank you for your interest. Despite everything, this forum is always a great help and support!
Love Sonja
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tex wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:30 am it just now occurred to me, after reading Kari's comments, that my histamine problems began after my first or second Covid vaccine. Since then, I've had two boosters, one by Pfizer, the last by Moderna. My histamine problems have become progressively worse, to the point where I couldn't drink or eat anything that contained even a small amount of histamine, without itching like mad. I lost my ability to eat not-quite-ripe bananas, almond butter, cashew butter, bacon, sausage, coffee, etc., all of which I had been doing fine with until Covid came along. Now, four months after I had my last booster (Moderna), I'm finding that the persistent itching has finally stopped, and I can drink at least one cup of coffee per day without reacting. At least, so far so good.
Reading this Tex with great interest as my husband and I just recently moved to Kansas from Colorado and so I haven't been around mosquitoes much for a long time. I managed to get bitten last week and I have had a severe reaction to those bites and my histamine levels are through the roof right now, but like you, I have been pretty itchy for quite awhile. Are you taking a DAO supplement to help with this? I haven't had a problem like this for quite sometime and now Benadryl along with everything else is just not enough! I got all Pfizer everything until the last booster and it was Moderna and I've been itchy for quite sometime. Some days I feel like I'm going to rip my hair out because I scratch so much and there's no issue. Was doing really well until all of this and these mosquitoes have made big welts on my legs and arm.

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Hi Jari,

When I first tried a DAO supplement, I thought it was going to be my salvation. But it didn't take long before they no longer seemed to help, and soon after that, they began to cause the very symptoms that they should be preventing. In other words, they seemed to make me itch worse. I finally resolved the problem by avoiding virtually everything that had any significant amount of histamine in it, and after a few weeks my itching slowly faded away.

In the meantime, triamcinolone cream (prescription only) stopped the itching when applied to rashes, but on weals, it didn't seem to help much. Antihistamines can help, but like a DAO supplement, after a while, they tend to cause the same symptoms that they're supposed to prevent. But that usually takes at least several months of use, or longer, before it becomes a problem. At least that's true for me.

I hope this helps.

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