marijuana question- if sensative to subject then avoid this

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Sun May 14, 2006 4:13 pm

Okay- so I used to smoke a lot back in college and then quit for a year or so and that is when I noticed my stomach problems seemed to go downhill, probably from the stress and such that I was going through that tduring that time.

Now I am told by doctors that in some cases of IBS that pot makes symptoms worse because the marijuana stimulates something in your digestive track and increases motility in the intestines. In other cases smoking marijuan greatly reduces symptoms (again it is apparent that what works for some might not work for others). I am certainly not saying to smoke pot to get rid of symptoms because it is not good for you.

But now to my point. about 3 weeks ago I went to a friends house and smoked some marijuana and the stomach problems that I was exerpeincing subsided. But every time that I have smoked since then the next day I have had stomach cramps and looser stools. I thought it was just something that I was eating because I had the munchies and didnt really give it much thought. But then I went to Mexico and did not smoke for a week and felt great everyday.

So I think that the marijuana is causing me some problems. Does anyone have any suggestions or personal experience in this area? Thank you.

annie oakley · Post by **annie oakley** » Sun May 14, 2006 4:26 pm

When I was in high school....I smoked Marijuna two times...both times it gave me a migraine from hell. And of course back then I was only 14 and didn't have hardly anything wrong with me that I knew of. But I have read about the use of Marijuna in medical research.
I have a daughter that uses Marijuna on an as needed basis...she is Manic depressed. Altho she takes meds for the depression, it doesn't mean she doesn't have an episode now and then...so she will smoke it. She said it helps her depression.
While I do not advocate the use of MArijuna....it is a personal choice that I cannot fault you or anyone else for, I just know what it did to me the two times I smoked it. If you are experiencing problems after you smoke, it would seem to me that it is either the Marijuna or the food you eat when you get the Muncies. I hope you find the answer to it all. I for one would be interested in whether it is the Smoking or something else. Hugs Oma

barbaranoela · Post by **barbaranoela** » Sun May 14, 2006 4:34 pm

I know my son has used Marijuana for pain----and it helped without any side effects-

Same goes for my brother----Xcruciating pain and it helped him also---he didnt have any issues from the *M*----just from the fact that he had no small intestine to start digestion so he already had big *D*----daily---he was very ill~~~~~

So, I cant be of any help--- and from reading about it---there are grades of this stuff--right??
I know this is hard to do but can U be HONEST with your GI- or whoever tends to your illness -what U did and what has happened???
Im sure U dont want to Xperiment again to see if it causes this upsetness!!!

Is it worth all this distress~~~~

Barbara

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:45 pm

I think I will try it a few more times just to see what happens the morning after again. There are different grades of M and I commonly use the midgrade. I dont think it is the food I am eating because I have tried eating all fresh and healthy foods as well. And I ate everything at the resort with no problems but as soon as I smoked again the next morning I had looser stools and gas cramps.

I will ask my Gi about this on Tuesday when I see him.

Thanks for your opinions.

Post by **tex** » Sun May 14, 2006 7:49 pm

http://remedyfind.com/rem.asp?ID=14627

Pro:

http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsst ... cID=527191

Con:

http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/BiosOrg/CCFA.htm

Tex

Canadian Karen · Post by **Canadian Karen** » Sun May 14, 2006 8:03 pm

Perhaps it has something to do with how it is grown? Additives maybe? Do you always get it from the same person? If so, does that person always use the same supplier?

As with any drug, it is buyer beware..... You never know what else is going into it......

Oh, and by the way, I tried it once - what a nightmare, I felt totally comotose. I was laying on the couch, couldn't move, talk, but I could follow all conversations with my ears and eyes.

It was a terrifying feeling! Probably had a bad batch or something, but it was enough to scare me away from it for the rest of my life!

Karen

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Sun May 14, 2006 9:26 pm

Hey Karen-

Glad you found this forum as well (I know you are on the celiac.com forum). As far as your questions go about what goes into it, is it the same everytime... I have no idea. You are correct in user beware...

I do think the MJ caused those episodes and I will do a little more testing... It is something I used to love but now it seems as though I have grown out of that stage (but not entirely obviously).

Thanks everyone for their inputs.

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » Sun May 14, 2006 9:44 pm

Hi there,

I can't answer your question, pro or con, about the effects of MJ on the digestive system with M.C., but I have years and years of experience working with large numbers of acutely ill psychiatric patients, most of whom spent many years locked up, many of whom smoked M.J.

For a portion of those patients, the M.J. seemed to be the start of their psychotic symptoms, and an inability to stop smoking MJ from then on. This made it just about impossible to treat their psychoses with the usual doses. About the time they were responding to medication well, they'd be allowed passes, and immediately use M.J., the result being, a return to their previous psychotic state, and the lock-up unit..round and round she goes! Needless to say, this was extremely frustrating for those of us trying to get them functional and free of the lock-up status.

I've been a bit out of touch lately, so would you mind catching me up on yourself? What is your current status, diet-wise, and symptom-wise? You might want to have a look at Dr. Fine's optimal diet and lifestyle, but some people may not be able to handle that much raw rabbit food initially. Others may not want to be that restricted or else want to eat cave-style. Still, it's a good thing to consider his recommendations.

Having a hard time keeping up with everyone lately, but miss you all!
Yours, Luce

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:24 pm

Hiya Terps!

I haven't smoked any weed since I've had MC, so I have no personal experience to share. It does sound as if it may be giving you a problem from what you describe. Isn't it amazing how tuned in to our gut we become? I think you have really become aware of how triggers may affect your gut, and this is a good thing. The proof is in the pudding so to speak.......if you try it a few more times and get the same result, then it IS a negative influence. The old gut doesn't lie, much as we might hope for a different outcome. LOL!

Let us know what you find out.

Love,

Polly

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:38 pm

This subject has come up before with some interesting insights-

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =marijuana

Breathing any kind of smoke into the lungs must, IMHO, stimulate the immune system and for that reason alone might not be a good thing if one has MC.

Of course any quick fix drug is a real sign of looking for help from the outside be it Marijuana, nicotine, chocolate, caffeine, alcohol, food, TV, cell phones, always plugged into IPods or any of the other things that we fool ourselves with in order to avoid being right here, right now. I am not singling anyone out in that it seems to be a habitual problem only made worse by all the technology that promotes doing something else while you are doing what you have to do meanwhile never realizing how much you enjoy just being. This is not a new problem read “Walden or Life in the Woods” by Henry David Thoreau or reread it if it has been a while.

It seems to me the real question is how much we cheat ourselves our friends, our families and our existence by finding some way to run away from the few moments we have to revel in being right here, totally alert and in the moment. Done on a consistant basis it is far more relaxing than any drug or addiction. Guess how I know.

Love

Matthew

moremuscle · Post by **moremuscle** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:01 am

Thanks for the link to the old thread on the same subject, Matthew - it made me laugh again to read Jean's message.

Andrew, all my younger siblings think I am a terrible "moralizer" so if you think so too you are not alone; but it is my opinion that your use of Marihuana is not justifiable as a means of treatment. If you choose to smoke it please try to continue to be honest with yourself as to why you use it - in that way you will always know why you continue to use it or why you elect to stop using it.

I also agree with Polly that the gut doesn't lie - so listen to your body and you will know what to do.

Love,
Karen

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:06 am

Andrew,

When my dad was in his final days he took marijuana in pill form to stimulate has appetite. Marinol was the name. It didn't work for him.

I smoked a few joints in my youth - enjoyed it, too.

I guess you'll just need to try again to see if it is hurting or helping your MC sympotms.

Alice