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Canadian Karen
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Post by Canadian Karen »

This is a great thread!

I too have felt in my past that I was banging my head against the wall trying to get sombody, ANYBODY, in the medical profession to take me seriously. It astounds me the number of people I know who have celiac have been accused of being hypochondriacs, emotionally unstable and in need of physciatric treatment. I guess I am only human, because when it was finally discovered and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only did I have celiac disease, but collagenous colitis, I felt in some way vindicated..... It was just infathomable for some doctors to believe someone could have permanent watery diarrhea for over a decade and still be alive.

I too have tried to be an activist, sort of. I will explain to you my theory.

The medical establishment in general seems to be years behind in learning about celiac disease. Even my own family doctor has admitted that the only thing they really learned in med school about celiac disease is to look for it in children failing to thrive and distended bellies. Now I am aware that the medical system in the U.S. is vastly different than that in Canada (Universal care), but I believe my theory fits both countries.

I think the key to getting the word out and getting doctors to realize how important it is to have celiac disease on their radar screens when someone comes in with even just a few minor symptoms, IS THROUGH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES! It is my belief that they are the ones who ultimately can dictate what tests can be more standardized based on the fact that they would be the ones approving whether or not the test would be financially covered. If we can make them see how much money would be saved in the long run just by running some bloodwork early when symptoms first present themselves, ultimately they will save a lot more money by not having to fork out money for a vasy myriad of testing, medications, disability payments, etc. etc. If they nip it in the bud early, then the complications (thyroid disease, osteoporosis, osteoartritis, or any additional auto-immune disease) would not even have a chance to develop.

I had written a letter that I had sent to many insurance companies up here in Canada. I have no idea whether it will open their eyes or not, but as long as I know in my heart I tried, then I can feel comfortable knowing that I have done my part in trying to change the current situation......

Here is a copy of the letter:

INSURANCE COMPANY



ATTN: DISABILITY CLAIMS DEPT.

To Whom it May Concern:

I am attempting to spearhead a campaign to raise awareness of Celiac Disease and its negative impact not only to hundreds of thousands of undiagnosed celiacs, but the financial impact this insidious disease has on your particular industry.

Celiac disease, also known as gluten intolerance, is a genetic autoimmune disease that affects 1 in 133 North Americans. Symptoms of celiac disease can range from the classic features, such as diarrhea, weight loss, depression, osteoporisis, peripheral nervous system disease and malnutrition, to latent symptoms such as isolated nutrient deficiencies, but no gastrointestinal symptoms. In fact, celiac disease can manifest itself in any one of 200 various symptoms.

The medical establishment is woefully uneducated about this disease. In fact, Celiac Disease is listed as one of the most underdiagnosed diseases in North America. The average timeframe from onset of symptoms to final proper diagnosis is 11 years. That is 11 years of endless medical tests, hospitalizations, medications, lost work hours and disability claims. It is that important fact that I truly believe is of great importance to your industry and hopefully will spur you into action to start educating doctors about this disease in an effort to have this disease properly diagnosed at the onset of symptoms. This could save your industry countless dollars in unnecessary medical costs. This disease can be diagnosed by a simple blood test. One simple test. The amount of money that will be saved by your industry in the long term would be staggering.

I urge you to send a representative to the next Celiac Association Conference in your area. The knowledge you will obtain there could drastically affect future claims and significantly reduce the cases you currently have who actually have celiac disease and still are not aware of it.

If the medical community has this disease in the forefront, not only those affected by celiac disease, but your industry, would benefit greatly. Help us to educate the doctors who are on the front line to recognize this disease in its early stages.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Kind regards,



Signed Here……….

Also, here is a copy of a letter I submitted to celiac associations:

CELIAC ASSOCIATION OF…………..




To Whom it may Concern:

My name is Karen _______ and I have had celiac disease for many years although not properly diagnosed until 4 years ago. Unfortunately, my long road to proper diagnosis is all too familiar. I am part of a group of fellow celiacs who are earnestly trying to change that.

I am involved in a campaign to send out letters to insurance company representatives, requesting them to attend a Celiac Disease Conference in their area. It is our hope that once the insurance industry is properly educated about celiac disease and its financial implications of this disease not being properly diagnosed in a timely manner, they will take action to rectify this problem. We feel that if the insurance industry discovered how much money is wasted on medical tests, hospitalizations, lost work hours and disability claims, just because the medical establishment is woefully uneducated about this disease, that they will take action and start realizing that by just one simple blood test, a staggering amount of money could be saved. Not only would they benefit financially, but all those currently who have celiac disease and still have not been properly diagnosed just might have a chance to finally have the answer they have been searching many years for.

Please assist us in this endeavor by extending an invitation to insurance representatives in your area in an effort to educate them about this disease. They could become one of our most powerful advocates and if we secure their involvement in educating the medical establishment, we have gained a very powerful ally in our fight against this disease.

Attached you will find a copy of the letter that has been sent out en mass to insurance companies in an attempt to secure their involvement and assistance.

Thank you for your kind consideration.

Yours truly,


If nothing else, I at least know that I have tried.....

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Karen
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collagenous colitis
spinal stenosis
endometriosis
hypothyroidism
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Post by Canadian Karen »

Sorry about not being good with the quotes!! LOL!

Also, I realize that even though the bloodtests are not foolproof and as accurate as we would like them to be, at least if we get more bloodwork ordered, it will be a step in the right direction.....

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Karen
celiac disease (diagnosed as refractory)
collagenous colitis
spinal stenosis
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hypothyroidism
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Post by tex »

Karen,

Very impressive! I think you're definitely onto something good with your idea. Of course, one could easily add the mention of a stool test as a diagnostic tool, also.

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I hope I haven't just confused the issue with my explanation.

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Thank you all for your praise.

:oops: I feel embarassed... Thanks God, most of them do not know my real name. You know, I am a very shy person. (That´s the reason for better expressing myself writing rather than talking)...

It is just that (as many of you feel) I could not avoid feeling hopeless thinking on all these people suffering without knowing what is really going on with their health.

I have many contacts here (microbiologists, Laboratories, specialists and patients) Some believe, others not. But I am doing my best every day to convince people by explaining my experience and trying to be helpful.

Though not all the regions in Spain give grants for celiacs in order to buy GF products (I have no access to these grants where I live, cause there are no grants in the South for Celiacs), some regions do. Therefore, they are very strict with a diagnosis issued by the official Health System or through the usual means they recognize as the only way to detect the intolerance to gluten (you know, biopsy and blood test).

In my opinion, there is no difference between celiacs and intolerants to gluten. It is just a way to express the same disease. Even if you have no flat villi you can be a celiac (it is just a word that can be applied to ourselves too)...

I am approaching many people, close to me, for instance friends at work or relatives who tell me about a friend or relative with a disease or without a diagnosis... It is a question of time starting to talk about gluten intolerance. Most are unaware of the importance of diet but understand my words easily and usually become interested on Dr. Fine´s findings...

Thanks to the Internet, the forums and associations my experience is spreading and some have already told their specialists or GP´s about it... Most have a faced brick wall... Others feel that if their doctor will not help, they will have to look for help by themselves... And some ignore the option...

But, I will continue working...

Thank you for your support and for sharing your own experience.
Love,
Tessa
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Post by Canadian Karen »

Hi Tessa!

You should be very proud of what you are doing over there! I am a firm believer that one person CAN make a difference!

Tex, back when I sent those letters out, I wish I had included the fecal tests in it also..... I wasn't all that familiar with Dr. Fine back then..... Perhaps the insurance companies will take baby steps, start with bloodwork, then move on to fecal testing...... That would be nice.....

Hugs.
Karen
celiac disease (diagnosed as refractory)
collagenous colitis
spinal stenosis
endometriosis
hypothyroidism
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Post by ronipow »

I wish you could come to Austin and have Dr. Lubin as your GI doctor.
His daughter and wife have Ceiliac disease. He actually uses Dr. Fine's test. I found him by contacting Dr. Fine and getting a list of GI's that use his test. I had also heard many recommendations from other people that use him as their GI doc that have celiac disease.

We were seeing Dr. Shu as our GI who is in the same group as Dr. Lubin and he thought Dr. fine was full of you know what. So, we changed doctors, and his PA is wonderful, she even knew the connection between sugar and GI problems. I was shocked, I asked her how she knew about the connection and she just said a lot of our patients seem to have trouble with sugar.

Roni
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