Started diet... Heres my log... Diet trouble... help

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:54 am

Celia-

Nice to hear from you again. If the bug had not gone away in a week (it will be 6 days since I saw the doc) then he said he would put me on an antibiotic and/or run parasite tests.

What antibiotic would be good for an already comprimised stomach? I was thinking Xifaxan.

Joanna-

Well I am on the asacol (tapering) and Entocort for the suspected UC (old GI doc meds); asacol never made me feel any better. I am tapering them so by the time I go in for a c scope I will be off the meds and the doc wil have a better idea what is going on. I am on the wellbutrin and ativan for depression and anxiety and stress and to help the overall mind gut connection. I am on an overall low dose of both the wellbutrin (I am at 150 mg and usualy dose is 300 mg) and ativan. I think the asacol might be holding me back in recovery somewhat since it has not had one positive effect (but negative ones I think).

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:44 pm

Day 6:
BM: semi formed semi lose
meds: 2 asacol, 1 wellbutrin, 1 ativan, 3 entocort 3 imodium
Breakfast: Hot Rice cereal and piece of toast (Gluten Free Panty Sandwich bread)
Lunch: Sandwich with the bread, GF turkey breast, lettuce, mayo
Snach: Piece of bread
Dinner: Chicken breast with rice crumbs, potato, greenbeans
Drinks: distilled water, gatorade, peppermint tea

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:05 am

Day 7:

BM semi formed
meds: 2 asacol, 1 wellbutrin, 1 ativan, 3 entocort, 3 imodium *I have been taking 2 1/2 tabs GF calcium carbonate supplements
Breakfast: Hot rice cereal
Snack: GR toast w/ honey
Lunch: chicken breast and rice
Dinner: Basa fish, rice, greenbeans, piece of toast
drinks: diluted gatorade, distilled water, peppermint tea

artteacher · Post by **artteacher** » Tue May 23, 2006 12:29 pm

I'd sure like to see more protein in there at lunch and breakfast . . . Also, could you list the ingredients of your calcium?

Love, Marsha

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:12 pm

Marsha-

Calcium carbonate, maltodextrin, acacia, cellulose, croscarmellose, sodium, corn starch, hypromellose, polyethlene Glycol, mineral oil, hyrdoxpropyl cellulose, titanium dioxide, dextrose, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide, sodium carbonoxymethyl-cellulose, gelatin, polysorbate 80, dextrin, sodium citrate, carnauba wax, lecithin, yellow 6 lake, stearic acid, crospovidone, cholecalciferol.

What other options do I have for protien when I cant eat bacon and eggs for breakfast yet? What other foods besides meat contain protien? I am getting at least 14 grams at lunch, 15-20 grams at dinner. SOme more options would be wonderful!

Post by **tex** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:51 pm

Andrew,

As many ingredients as the calcium carbonate contains, taking something like that when you are trying to track down food triggers is almost like guaranteeing failure. The ingredient list is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. There are, for, example, at least 4 or 5 different derivatives of corn. Are you sure that you're not corn intolerant? Besides those, there are a number of ingredients in there that I wouldn't touch, especially if I were trying to heal my gut. It may not be causing you any problems, but that ingredient list reads like an accident waiting to happen.

Seriously, the fewer ingredients in the processed items you ingest, the better off you will be. I found that whenever I ate something with a long ingredient list, even if nothing in it looked suspicious, it almost always caused me problems.

Nuts are a good source of protein. Can you tolerate peanut butter? Eggs can be eaten any time of day. I don't understand why you can't eat eggs. When I was on a very restricted diet, I almost always ate at least two eggs a day, usually boiled, even if I didn't each much else, some days.

Tex

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:58 pm

Peanut butter always used to give me D when I was little so I stopped eating it pretty much. I ate it every once in a while when I was older and I dont remember it causing any problems. I dont think I tolerate other nuts too well right now (I have tried almonds).

For lunch today I had french toast and an egg and we shall see how I hold up.

I am not positive I am not intolerant to corn but I have eaten corn flour wraps without much a problem. And I think overall the calcium has helped.

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:01 pm

Tex-

I thought you were intolerant to casien and gluten. What were your results from Dr Fine?

Post by **tex** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:48 pm

Well, I had been free of gluten for almost three years, and casein for over a year, when I sent a sample, so I didn't even bother to test for either gluten or casein, since it was probaly too late to detect any antibodies. IOW, I didn't find out about Enterolab until I had been GF for nearly two years. I learned about it when I discovered the old discussion board, not quite two years ago. Then I drug my feet for about another year, (since I thought it was already too late), before deciding to do some testing, anyway, (corn, soy, and eggs, were all negative).

Enterolab's diagnosis of gluten sensitivity was based on evidence of residual small intestine damage, (IOW, fecal fat score). I have one of the celiac genes, and one non-celiac gene that predisposes to gluten sensitivity.

I was indeed very casein intolerant for a few years, but now that my gut has healed, I'm able to eat it again, without any problems.

Tex

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:44 pm

You got a test for corn? I thought you could only get tested for gluten, casien, soy, eggs and yeast for food intolerances... I didnt know corn was on the list... They didnt say that I was positive for corn intolerance.

That is encouraging that you cant again tolerate casien. I hope one day I am able to tolerate a slice of cheese or something. Soy cheese is terrible (I tried it about a year ago).

Post by **tex** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:57 pm

Hahahahaha. Did I say corn? Sorry about that. CRS strikes again. For some reason I had corn on my mind, so that's what I typed. (The corn crop is almost in the roasting ear stage in this part of the country, and it needs a rain, so it's on my mind, most of the time). I think they're working on a corn test at Enterolab, but as far as I'm aware, it's not available yet.

My test was for yeast. I really thought at the time that I was yeast intolerant, but it turns out that the culprit was citric acid, (not just citric acid made from corn, but natural citrus). I'm still intolerant to citric acid, if I down more than a small amount of it. For example, I can drink up to about 8 ounces of Welch's 100% grape juice, but if I drink a few ounces more, I usually get diarrhea. 16 ounces will do it every time. No pain, no headache, or any other symptoms, just diarrhea, and usually only one episode of it.

Sorry for the mistake--my brain apparently wasn't paying attention to what my fingers were doing.

Tex

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue May 23, 2006 10:11 pm

Day 8:
Meds: 2 asacol, 3 entocort, 1 ativan, 1 wellbutrin, probiotic, 3 imodium
No BM

Breakfast: Hot rice cereal with honey
Lunch: French toast and GF lunch meat turkey breast
Dinner: Baked salmon, rice pasta, greenbeans

Total protien: about 45 grams

celia · Post by **celia** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:20 am

Congratulatons on being one week gluten free! Celia

artteacher · Post by **artteacher** » Wed May 24, 2006 12:06 pm

Hi there,

I was going to recommend you take a different form of calcium, because mine works so well for me. But it has many of the same ingredients yours does: even some that I usually have problems with. And I agree with Tex that it's good to simplify your diet, and get rid of anything that you can't pronounce. On the other hand, Caltrate 600 Plus causes me to have solid BM's without bloating or slowing down digestive time. Hmm. . so I'll just share what I've experienced, and what I've heard from other users of this formulation, on the web:

those who've been helped by Caltrate 600 Plus (in a purple box), find using other formulas doesn't work. Some of them have IBS, some have diarrhea caused by excess bile due to gallbladder removal. No one knows why it works, and I can't figure it out, either, but I have tried calcium carbonate by the same company (with other combinations of ingredients), and other calcium carbonate formulations similar to Caltrate, and they didn't stop the D. At all! It wasn't that they didn't work as well: they didn't work at all. It may be the synergistic effect of the ingredients rather than just one ingredient: it might be the pink coating on the pill, for all I know. It really makes no sense that one formula works where others don't, and I really wish I could explain it. But this stuff works so well for me, I have to share my experience, on the chance that even one person might get relief. So if you feel calcium carbonate helps you, you might try an experiment and switch to Caltrate 600 Plus.

Here are the ingredients of mine:

Vit D 200 IU
Calcium 600 mg
Magnesium 40 mg
Zinc 7.5 mg
Copper 1 mg
Manganese 1.8 mg
Boron 250 mcg

Calcium Carbonate, Maltodextrin, Magnesium Oxide, Cellulose, Hydropxypropyl Methylcellulose, Mineral Oil, Zinc oxide, Soy Polysaccharides, Titanium Dioxide, Manganese Sulfate, Polysorbate 80, Sodium Borate, Cupric Oxide, Polyethylene Glycol, Geletin, Sucrose, Yellow # 6 Aluminum Lake, Corn Starch, Canola Oil, Carnuba Wax, Red # 40 Aluminum Lake, Blue # 1 Aluminum Lake, Crospovidone, Magnesium Stearate, Stearic Acid, Cholecalciferol (Vit D3), dl-Alpha Tocopherol (Vit E)

In trials, this formula reduced the reaccurance of colon polyps, so it's being advertised for colon health. Personally, I think it has to be the Boron, Manganese, Copper, and Zinc that might be making it an anti-inflammatory.

Anyway, this is getting a bit long. Sorry!!

Love, Marsha

P.S. It has to be taken as the first bite of a meal, or for me it doesn't work, at least as well.

I can't eat eggs or dairy either.

Meat is really the only source of protein, sorry. It is hard sometimes to find a meat that feels like a breakfast food. Ham?

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:46 pm

Marsha-

Did you ask the manufacturer if your brand of calcium carbonate (caltrate) is gluten free? I did not call them but I knoew Safeways was so I switched to it. I have not seen any difference between the brands; they both work well.

I thought that Mangenese or magnesium was bad when having D. I thought it could make the D worse.