It appears that dairy products cause some minor symptoms, (nothing serious--mostly just loose stools and minor bloating), so I guess I'll go back and test corn by itself, to see what it does without the dairy.
Tex
Update on My Food Testing, (Corn and Dairy)
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Update on My Food Testing, (Corn and Dairy)
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Celia,
No, I will continue to avoid dairy products. By that statement, I just meant that the symptoms were so mild that they could be easily tolerated, and presumably, there are a lot of people who do tolerate such symptoms.
Here are my thoughts on food intolerances. Gluten, (for those who are intolerant to it), should always be avoided, even in the tiniest amounts. The reason is that gluten damages the small intestine, and this damage is cumulative, and requires a significant amount of time to heal. This damage increases the chances of acquiring a specific type of lymphoma, so playing games with gluten in the diet, is a little like playing Russian roulette, with a delayed response.
As far as I am aware, other food intolerances do not cause measurable damage to the small intestine, and thereby do not increase the risk of acquiring lymphoma, with the possible exception of casein. There seems to be some evidence that casein also causes intestinal damage in those who are intolerant to it. I could certainly be wrong about the other food intolerances, also, since I haven't had much luck locating any published research results in that area.
Casein, though, and the other intolerances have not been linked with increased risk of lymphoma. Of course, that could be simply because the research has not been done and/or published.
Anyway, based on the current state of knowledge, I don't particularly worry about long-term adverse consequences from the ingesion of casein, corn, or any of the other intolerances. Presently, only gluten is documented to contribute to increased long-term cancer risks.
IOW, as long as it doesn't cause significant acute symptoms, I wouldn't worry unduly about occasionally eating a bowl of ice cream, or popcorn, or whatever. That doesn't mean that I intend to routinely include those items in my diet. I will avoid them. Occasionally, though, I may have to "test" them to make sure that I am still intolerant of them. LOL. I would never consider eating any gluten, though, unless I were absolutely certain that I was not sensitive to it.
Wayne
No, I will continue to avoid dairy products. By that statement, I just meant that the symptoms were so mild that they could be easily tolerated, and presumably, there are a lot of people who do tolerate such symptoms.
Here are my thoughts on food intolerances. Gluten, (for those who are intolerant to it), should always be avoided, even in the tiniest amounts. The reason is that gluten damages the small intestine, and this damage is cumulative, and requires a significant amount of time to heal. This damage increases the chances of acquiring a specific type of lymphoma, so playing games with gluten in the diet, is a little like playing Russian roulette, with a delayed response.
As far as I am aware, other food intolerances do not cause measurable damage to the small intestine, and thereby do not increase the risk of acquiring lymphoma, with the possible exception of casein. There seems to be some evidence that casein also causes intestinal damage in those who are intolerant to it. I could certainly be wrong about the other food intolerances, also, since I haven't had much luck locating any published research results in that area.
Casein, though, and the other intolerances have not been linked with increased risk of lymphoma. Of course, that could be simply because the research has not been done and/or published.
Anyway, based on the current state of knowledge, I don't particularly worry about long-term adverse consequences from the ingesion of casein, corn, or any of the other intolerances. Presently, only gluten is documented to contribute to increased long-term cancer risks.
IOW, as long as it doesn't cause significant acute symptoms, I wouldn't worry unduly about occasionally eating a bowl of ice cream, or popcorn, or whatever. That doesn't mean that I intend to routinely include those items in my diet. I will avoid them. Occasionally, though, I may have to "test" them to make sure that I am still intolerant of them. LOL. I would never consider eating any gluten, though, unless I were absolutely certain that I was not sensitive to it.
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks. It's very helpful to understand your approach! I agree about not touching gluten with a ten foot pole, and the same applies to casein in my case. At this stage, all my other intolerances cause me pain of some sort or the other so I do avoid them now, but can imagine eating them in the future. Be well! Celia
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Hey, good to see you again. Yes, I occasionally eat popcorn, but not fresh corn, (roasting ears). I don't think that it would bother me, but even normal people get D from fresh corn, if they eat very much of it.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Ah, yes, I eat popcorn as well and don't have problems either.tex wrote:Hey, good to see you again. Yes, I occasionally eat popcorn, but not fresh corn, (roasting ears). I don't think that it would bother me, but even normal people get D from fresh corn, if they eat very much of it.
Tex
I'm guessing it's part of the corn that doesn't get digested that give folks D or is it something else?
It's probably the sugar that causes D, because fresh corn is normally eaten before the sugar is converted to starch by the plant as it matures. The process is known as starch synthesis, and as far as I know, it occurs in all cereal grains as they mature.
In corn that properly matures, the sugar is completely converted to starch, (about 75% amylopectin and 25% amylose, except for specialty corn varieties), as evidenced by the black line layer in the endosperm, which forms as the conversion is completed, and the kernel begins to dehydrate. IOW, you can break off the tip of the kernel, (the endosperm--where the kernel was attached to the cob), and actually see this black line layer, to verify that the conversion is complete. Complete conversion is necessary for ideal wet milling characteristics.
The part that is not digested, is known as the pericarp, (the outer shell of the kernel), and it is almost entirely cellulose, (which of course, human digestive systems are not designed to digest). Since it is indigestible, it should pass through the system without causing any ill effects.
This is more than you wanted to know, I'm sure, but I don't get to talk about this much anymore. LOL. I used to be in the food corn business.
Tex
In corn that properly matures, the sugar is completely converted to starch, (about 75% amylopectin and 25% amylose, except for specialty corn varieties), as evidenced by the black line layer in the endosperm, which forms as the conversion is completed, and the kernel begins to dehydrate. IOW, you can break off the tip of the kernel, (the endosperm--where the kernel was attached to the cob), and actually see this black line layer, to verify that the conversion is complete. Complete conversion is necessary for ideal wet milling characteristics.
The part that is not digested, is known as the pericarp, (the outer shell of the kernel), and it is almost entirely cellulose, (which of course, human digestive systems are not designed to digest). Since it is indigestible, it should pass through the system without causing any ill effects.
This is more than you wanted to know, I'm sure, but I don't get to talk about this much anymore. LOL. I used to be in the food corn business.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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That's a good explanation- it's the sugar that causes problems. What do you mean you use to be in the food corn business? Don't give up the corn farm! Know it's a tough growing season with no rain. Seriously, in general how is the food corn industry doing?tex wrote:This is more than you wanted to know, I'm sure, but I don't get to talk about this much anymore. LOL. I used to be in the food corn business.
I love corn chips and can eat popcorn too, but can't get use to eating it without butter. If your MI, be sure to read labels on microwave popcorns.
Here's a quote from the Poop Room which mimics your explanation.
Q-How come when you eat corn, no matter how much you chew it, you poop it out in whole kernals?
A-Corn poop is one of the greatest mysteries in life. I grew up pondering the same question. This is what I think is happening:
When we chew corn, the outer coating slips off the inner kernal. This outer yellow coating is almost entirely cellulose, and is indigestible. It passes through the gut untouched, and emerges looking like a whole kernal, although it is mostly just the outer skin. The inside of the kernal is starchy and digestible, and that is the part that we succeed in chewing up.
Q-Is there any way to prevent corn from getting in your poop?
A-I know of only one way - don't eat corn!
Hang in there Tex!
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Joanna
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Hi Joanna,
I didn't give up the food corn busines because of a drought, I got out of it about 8 or 10 years ago, after Frito-Lay put all the larger chip and tortilla manufacturers out of business in this part of Texas, by buying up all the best shelf space in the grocery stores, in order to shut them out. It's an illegal practice, and a justice department investigation was undertaken, but naturally, the justice department couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute them, so they got away with it, and all my major customers were forced to close their doors, so I didn't have much choice but give it up. I clean and bag deer corn, (feed corn), now.
Love,
Tex
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I didn't give up the food corn busines because of a drought, I got out of it about 8 or 10 years ago, after Frito-Lay put all the larger chip and tortilla manufacturers out of business in this part of Texas, by buying up all the best shelf space in the grocery stores, in order to shut them out. It's an illegal practice, and a justice department investigation was undertaken, but naturally, the justice department couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute them, so they got away with it, and all my major customers were forced to close their doors, so I didn't have much choice but give it up. I clean and bag deer corn, (feed corn), now.
Love,
Tex
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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Oh, yes!
I misunderstood the difference between feed corn and food corn. I knew you currently grow deer feed. Glad you were able to find that market after the Frito-Lay takeover. That just sucks.
The Poop Room is great, by the way. Good idea- thanks.
Love,
Joanna
I misunderstood the difference between feed corn and food corn. I knew you currently grow deer feed. Glad you were able to find that market after the Frito-Lay takeover. That just sucks.
The Poop Room is great, by the way. Good idea- thanks.
Love,
Joanna
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