MC symptoms..............

Mars · Post by **Mars** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:46 pm

I know we have discussed the subject about genetics in MC before but I have some new observations.

I have spent a lot of time talking about health to my family both for them to understand what goes on with me and to get an idea of the health history of my family.

I have found the following:

The following people have had or do have: D, cramps, gas pains, nausia, acid poops, etc.

Great Grandmother, grandmother, mother and both of my sisters.

One of my sisters has had gasteric bypass surgery and her symptoms are identical to mine when I am in a flare (as I call it). She didn't have any of them prior to surgery.

I found it amazing that all of us have/had these symptoms. I know that the surgery my sister had keeps her on a strict diet and she is told to eat lots and lots of protein. She doesn't stick to the diet like she should but if she varies from it she is in the pot more than she is out. She gets deathly sick and acts like she is in full MC mode.

I just found this information interesting and wonder if there is a connection somewhere. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

Love,
Mars

harvest_table · Post by **harvest_table** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:08 pm

Wow Mars,

No doubt there is a connection! I have also polled my family but the only link I have found was my Grandmother who suffered from digestive problems and D for the last 20 years of her life. You sure do have alot of folks with similar ailments don't you? Karens Mother is Celiac I know.

Love,
Joanna

Post by **tex** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:12 pm

Mars,

Wow! That doesn't leave much room for doubt, does it.

I can't find anyone in my family who will own up to having digestive system problems. Strange, because I have both a celiac gene, and an "MC ", (non-celiac gluten sensitive), gene. My mother had colon problems, but I don't think she had MC.

Love,
Tex

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:36 am

Hiya Mars,

That's very interesting info. Are they all on one side of the family?

Did you also ask about other autoimmune-type symptoms? Both my mom and grandmom had hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's) and my gm also had rheumatoid arthritis. I think my mom had occasional bowel problems but she won't admit to it now. I recall her at times having to make a mad dash for the toilet and she didn't leave the house much. Hmmmmmm.

When I had Dr. Fine's gene test, I found out that I had 2 genes that predispose to gluten sensitivity. The report said that I got one from each parent. It appears that these things do run in families, doesn't it?

Love,

Polly

Mars · Post by **Mars** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:30 am

Hi Polly Wolly,

Yes, all from the same side of the family - don't know much about the "other side" tee hee. Of the list, only my sister are living.

I do not know of any other autoimmune - just cancer which runs thru the same side of the family (gma and mother).

Love,
Mars Bar

thedell19 · Post by **thedell19** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:13 pm

Dr Fine's test results revealed that I have both the genes linked to celiac I think (got one from both mother and father) which is not a brain teaser since I am of Irish decent.

My mom has bouts of IBS or so she thinks (it only comes out when she is stressed) so that is why she thinks it is IBS.

My cousin (on dads side of the family) has problems with D every now and again for periods of time.

I have no biological brothers and sisters who are still alive to compare to.

I really fear giving this to my children (starting a family is probably about 5 years off)

artteacher · Post by **artteacher** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:17 am

Hi Margie,

I have lupus and MC, and hypothyroidism with thyroid antibodies (doctor said about 1/3 of all people with hypothyroidism have it because they have antibodies to their own thyroid). Similar people (with autoimmune problems) in my family are:

Dad: MS, lupus, diabeties, and prostate cancer. History of depression/mental illness

Aunt: Shogrun's Disease

second cousin (dad's cousin): MS

great uncle: (dad's uncle) MS

grandmother: IBS or similar problem. Family members say it's exaserbated with sugars/breads

cousins: (aunt's twin boys) autism

cousin: IBS or other stomach problem that manifests with spontaneous D, so that she's had to choose careers that keep her near a bathroom

Food Intolerances: in my immediate family and their kids:
*my sister: egg: her kids, dairy and egg
*my daughter: egg and dairy
*one cousin, 5 year old not previously mentioned: being treated by nutritionist, is on high protein, low grain diet because of ADD-like symptoms
* the autisic twins are trying a gfcf diet

It's a large family, so the stats aren't overwhelming, but there are family members with problems severe enough that they impact their daily life, and they've sought medical help.

I think when you get a genetic predisposition, or hyper-autoimmune tendencies, then build habits that overwhelm your body's natural defenses, BINGO, you get SIBO or MC or other weird things.

Not that it matters why exactly: I'd actually prefer to know how to just get rid of it.

Love you guys,
Marsha

harvest_table · Post by **harvest_table** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:03 am

Here's an article from todays paper that comments on genetic links - celiac /asymptomatic microscopic colitis.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... gewanted=1

Genes seem to play a role. Might be interesting to create a poll of some type about this.

Love,
Joanna

Post by **tex** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:26 pm

Joanna,

Chances are very good that all of us have a gluten sensitive gene, whether we are actually gluten sensitive or not, since 81% of the general population, (in this country), has at least one. In fact, I suspect that most of us have two gluten sensitive genes, and many of us have celiac genes. Consider this:

How common are the gluten sensitivity and celiac genes?
DQ2 is present in 31% of the general American population. DQ8 (without DQ2) is present in another 12%. Thus, the main celiac genes are present in 43% of Americans. Include DQ1 (without DQ2 or DQ8), which is present in another 38%, yields the fact that at least 81% of America is genetically predisposed to gluten sensitivity.

This is from:

https://www.enterolab.com/StaticPages/F ... tation.htm

Here are the results for genetic testing, for those of us who have been tested, (for those of us who have reported their results, anyway):

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2645

Love,
Tex

P S A poll of this type is valid only if the members responding have had the gene test, and presumably they have all already responded to the topic at the above link.

Jean · Post by **Jean** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:37 pm

Wow Wayne,

That is an amazing statistic! 81% of all Americans!?!

I have been thinking that the obesity epidemic is gluten related. Mike put some interesting articles in the "Links to good sites" room. I willing to bet that ten years from now all obese people will be tested for gluten sensitivity. OK, maybe it will take longer, but I think ultimately, gluten will be the problem for many Americans. When ever I see a person with a huge belly, I want to go up to them and tell them that they are gluten intolerant.

Love, Jean