Hi everyone. I had some unexpected oral surgery this afternoon. I feel pretty good...BUT the surgeon gave me prescriptions for Amoxicillin and Tylenol w/Codeine. I feel I can probably do without the pain killer but I should start the antibiotic. I've taken Amoxicillin before and had no side effects...but not since LC (I've been in remission for 20 months). I discussed LC with the surgeon but he still recommended Amoxicillin. Guess I'll have to give it a go. Keep your fingers crossed for me...things have been going so well.
Love,
Carole
Amoxicillin? Tylenol w/Codeine?
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Hi Carole!
Amoxicillin cuases diarrhea in about 20% of kids, but I have no clue about adults. You'll probably be fine if it's only for a short time. Actually, the Tylenol with codeine shouldn't hurt at all and may in fact help promote constipation. Do you takea probiotic? I don't , but many here use it short term to replace the good bacteria that might be killed off by the antibiotic.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Love,
Polly
Amoxicillin cuases diarrhea in about 20% of kids, but I have no clue about adults. You'll probably be fine if it's only for a short time. Actually, the Tylenol with codeine shouldn't hurt at all and may in fact help promote constipation. Do you takea probiotic? I don't , but many here use it short term to replace the good bacteria that might be killed off by the antibiotic.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Carole,
I'm not a good one to ask about this, because I had a bad reaction to the only probiotic I've tried (Culturelle). But I know that others have have a great deal of success with probiotics. Hopefully they will jump in and share their experiences. If you can tolerate dairy, you could do yogurt at least. Are you at the lake house?
Love,
Polly
P.S. Let's plan to meet again for lunch and a show - once the weather cools!
I'm not a good one to ask about this, because I had a bad reaction to the only probiotic I've tried (Culturelle). But I know that others have have a great deal of success with probiotics. Hopefully they will jump in and share their experiences. If you can tolerate dairy, you could do yogurt at least. Are you at the lake house?
Love,
Polly
P.S. Let's plan to meet again for lunch and a show - once the weather cools!
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Hi Polly. Nope - haven't been to the lake house for a couple of weeks - it's too hot! This is the first summer in 25 years that this has been a problem. Usually the breeze from the lake keeps things cool for all but a couple of days. But not this year. So we're staying home (3 miles away!) with the central AC.
Love,
Carole
Love,
Carole
Polly,
I used to think that yogurt was useful for that purpose also, but since then I've read on several sites that yogurt won't repopulate the GI system with the proper bacteria. Kefir is claimed to be the best choice for that job. (I probably read that on pro-kefir sites, but it sounded logical when I read it). Anyway, do you know if that info is correct, or just promotional hype?
Love,
Tex
I used to think that yogurt was useful for that purpose also, but since then I've read on several sites that yogurt won't repopulate the GI system with the proper bacteria. Kefir is claimed to be the best choice for that job. (I probably read that on pro-kefir sites, but it sounded logical when I read it). Anyway, do you know if that info is correct, or just promotional hype?
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Carrie,
Just make sure it's live culture yogurt. I had what seemed like immediate results with a LARGE container I ingested in the hospital after a week's worth of an antibiotic that's famous for causing C-diff. This was the year before I discovered that I was having immune reactions to casein, but the probiotic effect worked well anyway.
The containers in your local grocery should be labeled "live culture" or something to that effect.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Yours, Luce
Just make sure it's live culture yogurt. I had what seemed like immediate results with a LARGE container I ingested in the hospital after a week's worth of an antibiotic that's famous for causing C-diff. This was the year before I discovered that I was having immune reactions to casein, but the probiotic effect worked well anyway.
The containers in your local grocery should be labeled "live culture" or something to that effect.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Yours, Luce
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morning Carole------well Amox. causes me lottsa problems-----watery movements----
Matter of fact---its listed on all doc files----ANTIBIOTIC??? Gotta be careful!!
But sometimes there is no choice but to take the antibiotics~~~~
Good luck Carole----
luve Barb----PS. to add---I take Culturelle--no problems---and I keep everything crossed in the hopes, I DONT get sick where as I might need an ANTIBIOTIC!!!
Imagine--if the Generic of my Cholesterol caused me*running-rapids*
---what anything else might do!!!
Matter of fact---its listed on all doc files----ANTIBIOTIC??? Gotta be careful!!
But sometimes there is no choice but to take the antibiotics~~~~
Good luck Carole----
luve Barb----PS. to add---I take Culturelle--no problems---and I keep everything crossed in the hopes, I DONT get sick where as I might need an ANTIBIOTIC!!!
Imagine--if the Generic of my Cholesterol caused me*running-rapids*
---what anything else might do!!!the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self-control
Hiya Tex,
I don't know the answer to your question. We've also had discussions here about raw sauerkraut being used as a probiotic, but I've never seen any studies.
I do know that Luce and others have reported success with yogurt anecdotally.
Love,
Polly
I don't know the answer to your question. We've also had discussions here about raw sauerkraut being used as a probiotic, but I've never seen any studies.
I do know that Luce and others have reported success with yogurt anecdotally.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Also,
I wouldn't use the yogurt now, and have the milk-free chewable tablets that have to be refrigerated. Fortunately, I've not had to give those a test as yet.
By the way, the reason that doc had to put me on that particular antibiotic was that I was having some potentially serious allergic reactions, so whole classes of antibiotics, other than these were considered too much of a risk at the time.
Later, I was tested with tiny amounts of injected forms of all these classes of antibiotics, and didn't react to any of them, although one I did have in ER in an IV did cause a local vein reaction so was discontinued. This was right before I resumed the antibiotic that precipitated the yogurt up on the telemetry unit where I was admitted.
Anyway, the allergist said that it may have been something else about the Cedax that made my lips swell a while back, but that the injectible form, cephalosporin didn't do a thing. He said that it's still possible to have a reaction at any time to any thing as these things come and go. Anyway, now I just list Cedax in my allergy section, so hope that wouldn't preclude my receiving IV Cephalosporins if I were to be running out of options.
Some docs might be afraid to give those, however, since Cedax is one as well.
Since I've gone into this much detail, I'll mention this. My sister who is a physician, told me that she's seen a number of people with a lot of strange antibiotic reactions like I had that occur in close proximity to GI conditions like ours.
Polly, can you think of why this may be? I thought it was amazing that she put all this together, actually -- astute observer!
Yours, Luce
I wouldn't use the yogurt now, and have the milk-free chewable tablets that have to be refrigerated. Fortunately, I've not had to give those a test as yet.
By the way, the reason that doc had to put me on that particular antibiotic was that I was having some potentially serious allergic reactions, so whole classes of antibiotics, other than these were considered too much of a risk at the time.
Later, I was tested with tiny amounts of injected forms of all these classes of antibiotics, and didn't react to any of them, although one I did have in ER in an IV did cause a local vein reaction so was discontinued. This was right before I resumed the antibiotic that precipitated the yogurt up on the telemetry unit where I was admitted.
Anyway, the allergist said that it may have been something else about the Cedax that made my lips swell a while back, but that the injectible form, cephalosporin didn't do a thing. He said that it's still possible to have a reaction at any time to any thing as these things come and go. Anyway, now I just list Cedax in my allergy section, so hope that wouldn't preclude my receiving IV Cephalosporins if I were to be running out of options.
Some docs might be afraid to give those, however, since Cedax is one as well.
Since I've gone into this much detail, I'll mention this. My sister who is a physician, told me that she's seen a number of people with a lot of strange antibiotic reactions like I had that occur in close proximity to GI conditions like ours.
Polly, can you think of why this may be? I thought it was amazing that she put all this together, actually -- astute observer!
Yours, Luce
Luce, Are there any antibiotics that are tolerated well? I'm on the Amoxicillin for soft-tissue reasons - it's supposed to be one of the best for that. And so far so good - no diarrhea, no stomach ache.
Oh - you won't believe this. The pharmacy made a mistake on the instructions. The capsules are 500 mg and label said to take 2 every 6 hours. I've taken Amoxicillin before but never in that high a dose or that frequently. Also, I counted the pills and there were 21 so I thought how could there be an odd number wnen the dosage called for 2 pills at a time? And taking them at that rate meant there was less than a 3-day supply - also unusual for an antibiotic. I started the pills at night (took 2 double-doses) but phoned the pharmacy in the morning and yes, they made a mistake!!! It should have been 1 capsule every 8 hours. Fortunately no harm was done. As my mother always said, "You have to think for yourself."
Love,
Carole
Oh - you won't believe this. The pharmacy made a mistake on the instructions. The capsules are 500 mg and label said to take 2 every 6 hours. I've taken Amoxicillin before but never in that high a dose or that frequently. Also, I counted the pills and there were 21 so I thought how could there be an odd number wnen the dosage called for 2 pills at a time? And taking them at that rate meant there was less than a 3-day supply - also unusual for an antibiotic. I started the pills at night (took 2 double-doses) but phoned the pharmacy in the morning and yes, they made a mistake!!! It should have been 1 capsule every 8 hours. Fortunately no harm was done. As my mother always said, "You have to think for yourself."
Love,
Carole
Carole,
From the posts I've read on our two sites, it seems that Cipro actually seemed to reduce the M.C. symptoms, at least temporarily, not that I would take it for that, mind you.
It's just that Cipro is reserved for certain situations.
I think you should do fine if you can take a good probiotic of some sort.
When a local chain of grocery stores was taken over by a large national chain, we had a similar incident with their pharmacy the first time I got a script filled for my uncle there after the takeover. We'd never had an error like that before.
Would you believe that instead of giving him Sinemet (PD), they gave him Flagyl?
This was one of those situations in which I had bought the stuff really early before my uncle ran out, so didn't open up the package for longer than usual.
I felt bad thinking that there was probably some poor customer of theirs who'd taken Sinemet when their diagnosis called for Flagyl.
Hopefully, this person recognized the problem immediately before taking it, but I could tell the pharmacist was shocked to see the error, and if someone was getting Flagyl, they probably would've needed to take it as soon as they picked it up.
Not good, because that probably means s/he continued to take it for several doses, if not the whole time since I'd picked up the Flagyl!!
It concerns me even to this day because I wonder what it would do to a non-PD patient to take even one dose of Sinemet when they don't need it. I hope it didn't trigger some neuro problems in that poor person -- that on top of needing Flagyl!
You are right, it's our body, and we all know that mistakes do happen.
I've even had my sister take some unfamiliar looking generic to the pharmacologist at our local hospital to check to make sure the pills in a bottle were what one of us was supposed to be taking.
By the way, I really should do a separate post on levels of generics. I had no idea that they were graded, and don't, to this day, know what the grades mean.
This sounds like a good project for the Texter! (Drum roll, please!).
Well, Carole, I guess with those large first couple of doses, those bugs didn't know what hit 'em, did they? Knock out punch before the third round. Hmm, wonder if your doc would want you to take the prescribed dose a couple more days to make up for the days of doses you took prematurely? Don't know what they do in cases like that. Hmm.
Let us know how you're doing, please.
Yours, Luce
From the posts I've read on our two sites, it seems that Cipro actually seemed to reduce the M.C. symptoms, at least temporarily, not that I would take it for that, mind you.
It's just that Cipro is reserved for certain situations.
I think you should do fine if you can take a good probiotic of some sort.
When a local chain of grocery stores was taken over by a large national chain, we had a similar incident with their pharmacy the first time I got a script filled for my uncle there after the takeover. We'd never had an error like that before.
Would you believe that instead of giving him Sinemet (PD), they gave him Flagyl?
This was one of those situations in which I had bought the stuff really early before my uncle ran out, so didn't open up the package for longer than usual.
I felt bad thinking that there was probably some poor customer of theirs who'd taken Sinemet when their diagnosis called for Flagyl.
Hopefully, this person recognized the problem immediately before taking it, but I could tell the pharmacist was shocked to see the error, and if someone was getting Flagyl, they probably would've needed to take it as soon as they picked it up.
Not good, because that probably means s/he continued to take it for several doses, if not the whole time since I'd picked up the Flagyl!!
It concerns me even to this day because I wonder what it would do to a non-PD patient to take even one dose of Sinemet when they don't need it. I hope it didn't trigger some neuro problems in that poor person -- that on top of needing Flagyl!
You are right, it's our body, and we all know that mistakes do happen.
I've even had my sister take some unfamiliar looking generic to the pharmacologist at our local hospital to check to make sure the pills in a bottle were what one of us was supposed to be taking.
By the way, I really should do a separate post on levels of generics. I had no idea that they were graded, and don't, to this day, know what the grades mean.
This sounds like a good project for the Texter! (Drum roll, please!).
Well, Carole, I guess with those large first couple of doses, those bugs didn't know what hit 'em, did they? Knock out punch before the third round. Hmm, wonder if your doc would want you to take the prescribed dose a couple more days to make up for the days of doses you took prematurely? Don't know what they do in cases like that. Hmm.
Let us know how you're doing, please.
Yours, Luce