Hi Friends,
I was wondering if anything else contributes to inflamation other than reacting to something we've eaten. On Wednesday when my looser D had stopped from trying the betaine HCL, I decided to eliminate the flax seed oil from my diet to see what happened. I was back to semi formed soft stools wed. and thurs. Then this morning I am back to larger quantities of loose D. So I guess the flax oil is helping with my inflamation and I'll add it back in. But my diet was the same...I am not reacting to any food. When I react, I get D plus body aches, nausia and hand joint pains. This morning it was just D, no other reaction. So my question is , is there anything else besides reacting to food that would prevent the inflamation in my colon from healing?
Thanks for any insights.
Love,
Cristi
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Hi Cristi. Sometimes I think the inflammation "just happens" and is part of the disease that has to heal gradually. I've been in remission for 20 months yet still can observe certain subtle changes, regardless of what I eat. I guess what I'm saying, in the absence of any medical proof, is that healing takes a very, very long time and cannot be rushed.
Also you should avoid tight fitting clothes - keep it casual - and be careful not to swim anywhere unless the water is properly treated.
Love, Carole
Also you should avoid tight fitting clothes - keep it casual - and be careful not to swim anywhere unless the water is properly treated.
Love, Carole
Hi Cristi,
I'm sure you are already aware of the meds which can trigger a reaction, such as NSAIDS, and proton pump inhibitors. Nicotine withdrawal, (cessation of smoking), is another that comes to mind, but other than those things, I'm drawing a blank, right now.
Love,
Tex
I'm sure you are already aware of the meds which can trigger a reaction, such as NSAIDS, and proton pump inhibitors. Nicotine withdrawal, (cessation of smoking), is another that comes to mind, but other than those things, I'm drawing a blank, right now.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Tex,
Yes I am aware of those. The one that applies to me is the proton pump inhibitors. I was on Prilosec for a long time. That combined with my surgery were my triggers. I am also thinking back to the time I was on Entocort (unfortunately still consuming gluten) , while I had some improvement, I never saw norman. Unlike some people here who don't limit their diets and get norman from simply taking entocort. This leads me to conclude that my inflamation is more difficult to treat. From what I've read it takes about 6 months for me to recover from the Prilosec (hopefully that is true) and obviously from my acid test I am not there yet. I guess I am wondering if I should try the paleo diet combined with the entocort to see if I can get my colon to heal. Do you think that's a logical next step or should I give this more time...and patience? Thanks for the support.
Love,
Cristi
Yes I am aware of those. The one that applies to me is the proton pump inhibitors. I was on Prilosec for a long time. That combined with my surgery were my triggers. I am also thinking back to the time I was on Entocort (unfortunately still consuming gluten) , while I had some improvement, I never saw norman. Unlike some people here who don't limit their diets and get norman from simply taking entocort. This leads me to conclude that my inflamation is more difficult to treat. From what I've read it takes about 6 months for me to recover from the Prilosec (hopefully that is true) and obviously from my acid test I am not there yet. I guess I am wondering if I should try the paleo diet combined with the entocort to see if I can get my colon to heal. Do you think that's a logical next step or should I give this more time...and patience? Thanks for the support.
Love,
Cristi
Hi Cristi,
I completely agree with you that some of us are not only much more sensitive to some triggers, but have a much tougher time healing. I used to think that the longer one had been experiencing symptoms, without treatment, the longer it would take to heal. That's probably true, but I don't think it provides the whole picture.
Some individuals have a tough time reaching remission, even if they start treatment promptly. I'm very suspicious that bacterial overgrowth may be the key in many of those cases. There's certainly something going on to confound the treatment.
I'm certainly no doctor, but I have a hunch that with a proven condition of low stomach acid, (possibly over an extended period), the odds may be fairly high that you have a bacterial overgrowth. That could be why you weren't very responsive to Entocort. I don't believe that Entocort can suppress problems caused by bacteria.
There's certainly nothing wrong with using Entocort along with a diet, to try to achieve remission. Actually, you're probably pretty close to a paleo diet already, aren't you?
Love,
Tex
I completely agree with you that some of us are not only much more sensitive to some triggers, but have a much tougher time healing. I used to think that the longer one had been experiencing symptoms, without treatment, the longer it would take to heal. That's probably true, but I don't think it provides the whole picture.
Some individuals have a tough time reaching remission, even if they start treatment promptly. I'm very suspicious that bacterial overgrowth may be the key in many of those cases. There's certainly something going on to confound the treatment.
I'm certainly no doctor, but I have a hunch that with a proven condition of low stomach acid, (possibly over an extended period), the odds may be fairly high that you have a bacterial overgrowth. That could be why you weren't very responsive to Entocort. I don't believe that Entocort can suppress problems caused by bacteria.
There's certainly nothing wrong with using Entocort along with a diet, to try to achieve remission. Actually, you're probably pretty close to a paleo diet already, aren't you?
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Tex and Jean,
Thanks for your input. That is the one thing that bugs me too..is that the real problem is bacterial overgrowth and that the entocort won't really do much for that. Everything I've tried so far for bacterial over growth ...probiotics and acid pills has backfired on me. I still can try lowering the dose or the apple cider vinegar. Going to have to think somemore on this. I do appreciate the help thinking about all of this.
Love,
Cristi
Thanks for your input. That is the one thing that bugs me too..is that the real problem is bacterial overgrowth and that the entocort won't really do much for that. Everything I've tried so far for bacterial over growth ...probiotics and acid pills has backfired on me. I still can try lowering the dose or the apple cider vinegar. Going to have to think somemore on this. I do appreciate the help thinking about all of this.
Love,
Cristi
Heya-
Do you take any probiotics? iFlora is specifically designed with a decent amount of strains of good bacteria that reduces and surpresses inflammation in the colon.
Is anyone at work sick? Is cross contamination an issue?
I do recommend probiotics.
Do you take any probiotics? iFlora is specifically designed with a decent amount of strains of good bacteria that reduces and surpresses inflammation in the colon.
Is anyone at work sick? Is cross contamination an issue?
I do recommend probiotics.
Dr Fine test shows positive for gluten and casien but negative for soy, eggs, and yeast
Maybe its UC maybe its MC? Who knows at this point, but at least I know my intollerances now... so heres to the road to healing!
Maybe its UC maybe its MC? Who knows at this point, but at least I know my intollerances now... so heres to the road to healing!
Cristi,
I can only speak from my own experience. I have never taken a probiotic and I'm not sure about the whole bacterial thing. Once I healed, I didn't have any of the other problems that I started out with.
I believe that eliminating all of your intolerances will eventually cure your other problems including the stomach acid thing. Just my opinion!
Love, Jean
I can only speak from my own experience. I have never taken a probiotic and I'm not sure about the whole bacterial thing. Once I healed, I didn't have any of the other problems that I started out with.
I believe that eliminating all of your intolerances will eventually cure your other problems including the stomach acid thing. Just my opinion!
Love, Jean
Be kind to everyone, because you never know what battles they are fighting.
Hi,
I have tried probiotics twice.....unfortunately got sick both times. I wish I could take them....but just can't.
Jean, I'm hoping you are right. I am being super strict with my diet...I don't think I am missing anything. But who knows...maybe I'll look back on this and wonder why I didn't get it sooner. Thanks .
Love,
Cristi
I have tried probiotics twice.....unfortunately got sick both times. I wish I could take them....but just can't.
Jean, I'm hoping you are right. I am being super strict with my diet...I don't think I am missing anything. But who knows...maybe I'll look back on this and wonder why I didn't get it sooner. Thanks .
Love,
Cristi
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Hi Cristi,
I had a couple suggestions. First, to try not to take daily stomach upsets too seriously, but rather track episodes on a 2-4 day or weekly average. If you've eaten something that has fried your intestinal tract, it might take it longer to bounce back than you think (for me it can be a week or two, depending on what I've eaten).
Secondly, maybe it would help to create a post of your food intake for the last 4-5 days and let everyone give you some imput? That seems to have been helpful for a number of people.
Talk to you soon, Marsha
I had a couple suggestions. First, to try not to take daily stomach upsets too seriously, but rather track episodes on a 2-4 day or weekly average. If you've eaten something that has fried your intestinal tract, it might take it longer to bounce back than you think (for me it can be a week or two, depending on what I've eaten).
Secondly, maybe it would help to create a post of your food intake for the last 4-5 days and let everyone give you some imput? That seems to have been helpful for a number of people.
Talk to you soon, Marsha