To Paleo or Not to Paleo?? A Real dilemna for Me.

MaggieRedwings · Post by **MaggieRedwings** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:29 am

Morning Polly,

Just a little bit of vinegar and oil on the "salad." Not sure if Paleo but can wean off that if need be. Suggestions for breakfast are more than welcome and one I can eat when I get to work.

Tolerance is definitely part of the backbone of the religion and it is something I practice and hate losing it with anyone or anything. So far as the moral concerns I have fish is going to be part of my intake but I do not think meat or poultry will make it. The only meat I have ever really liked is pork which so many people don't. Go figure - just boils down to me being so different.

Anyone can feel free to voice their opinions to me since I am very open minded and do take them fully into consideration.

Are artichoke hearts acceptable on the diet? I know they are a very ancient veggie.

Love, Maggie

Post by **tex** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:00 am

Hi Maggie,

Artichoke hearts are definitely an acceptable paleo food. One thing that you need to bear in mind is that there is no such thing as a (single), paleo diet. Consider this quote from an interview with archaeologist and anthropologist John Williams:

JW: That’s right, Craig. We archaeologists love to make fun of trendy “Paleo-diets” and books like Neanderthin. There was no single paleo-diet; people during the Paleolithic ate whatever they could get their hands on, and what they ate depended upon what region of the world they were living. I recently talked with Erik Trinkaus, a paleoanthropologist and the world’s premier expert on Neanderthals, and he summarized his thoughts on the matter by saying “the Neanderthal world was in no way idyllic. These folks had hard lives and died young, and their version of a paleo-diet was to eat whatever didn’t eat them first”.

This is from this site, where they discuss the "caveman diet":

http://ezinearticles.com/?Caveman-Nutri ... &id=344370

Incidentally, I eat pork virtually every day.

Love,
Tex

artteacher · Post by **artteacher** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:38 am

Thank you so much, Wayne. That is a terrific article.

I especially noted that he mentioned grass grains, and leafy plant grains. Makes me want to try quinua. And, talk about short term memory, I forgot how to spell it already. Aren't wild rice and buckwheat also grassy grains?
Love, Marsha

CAMary · Post by **CAMary** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:00 pm

Maggie-

Just want you to know you have my support as you sort through what you can handle emotionally and spiritually as far as dietary modifications are concerned. You need to listen to your heart and decide from the inside what you can reconcile with your beliefs....Everyone here supports your choices - and we all wish for improved health for you!

Just want you to know I can relate (albeit on a smaller scale...) I have not been able to receive communion in 5 1/2 years, which is difficult, as a practicing Catholic. I am preparing my son to make his First Communion this year, and as we go through the process in preparing the children, I am reminded what an important part of my religion it is - yet I cannot participate.

I am basically okay with it, but at times it is hard. Just want you to know I can relate!

:bigbighug:

Mary

Post by **tex** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:05 pm

Marsha,

You're more than welcome. Rice is a grass plant, but buckwheat is not, therefore buckwheat is not a true cereal.

Love,
Wayne

Post by **tex** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:11 pm

Mary,

There are vendors who can suppy GF, (and MI), wafers which are claimed to look and perfrm like the regular ones, though apparenty some churches do not approve of them:

http://www.stpatricksguild.com/browse.cfm/4,2565.htm

Tex

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:17 pm

Marsha

Buckwheat is not a grain at all . It is actually classified as a fruit . You might be interested in these past threads.

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3707

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4136

It is a rare occasion that I make muffins or pancakes with it even though it has not been a problem for me. I guess those kind of foods are off the radar for the moment.

It does make a wonderful coating for fish. I coat a fish fillet in beaten egg and then coat it with buckwheat flour that has been mixed with a little salt, pepper and spices. Fried in a little oil the fillets come out a beautiful golden brown with lots of flavor.

Even though I do not eat lots of buckwhat it is a nice addition to my kitchen on occasion.

Love

Matthew

CAMary · Post by **CAMary** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:05 pm

Tex-

I am aware of the availability of GF communion wafers - apparently they are approved by many of the Protestant churches - unfortunately the RC Church is pretty much hopelessly resistant to change

Their "official stance" is no substitutions, plus we belong to a very large parish, so logistically it would be a nightmare - to see that the alternate hosts are blessed on the altar with the regular, then to be sure I received the correct ones....not something I am "up" for battling the diocese over...

Mary

Here is an explanation as to why substitution isn't permissible...

http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/celiasprue.shtml

Post by **tex** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:31 pm

Hi Mary,

Thanks for that link. Yes, I agree with you. Your observation, "unfortunately the RC Church is pretty much hopelessly resistant to change", is putting it mildly.

Tex

CAMary · Post by **CAMary** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:50 pm

Oh yeah Tex-

One of my *huge* issues - I spend a lot of time separating my feelings about my religion/beliefs from my feelings about the "people" running it. Don't get me started

I keep telling myself they are human, and as prone to making mistakes (or even moreso!) as anyone else - otherwise I'd be writing ranting letters to The Pope on a regular basis

I chose to reconcile this issue (and others) with "The Big Guy" on my own...

In MY mind, God understands, and really that is all that matters

Mary

Post by **tex** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:06 pm

I agree with you 100%.

Tex

artteacher · Post by **artteacher** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:18 pm

Thank you Matthew,

I am so bummed; I tried buckwheat, and it didn't agree with me. Do you think that might be because it's just something I've never had before? I don't understand why it would make me sick, except it's like a placebo effect.

Marsha

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:59 pm

Hi Maggie,

I've been thinking about you and your dilemma. Have been out of town, then a little under the weather with a cold, so am just responding.
I used to be a vegetarian, as you know. But not vegan. I can only imagine how difficult this diet issue is for you.

I believe that whatever you decide will be blessed by Buddha. I feel that such a loving spirit would not want you to suffer needlessly or put your life at risk in order to be in strict compliance with the diet.

I hope that you'll feel at peace with your decision, and will be well in every way.

Love,
Alice

starfire · Post by **starfire** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:01 pm

Mary,

I would stake my life on the fact that God won't hold it against you for not taking communion because of the gluten in the wafers.
Just another "humble opinion".

Marsha,
I am so sorry the buckwheat made you sick. Was there possibly any other additive that could have affected you? I hope the reaction will be short lived.

Maggie,
I hope you can resolve the conflicts you are feeling in a way that doesn't cause you concern.

Love to all, Shirley

Love, Shirley

MaggieRedwings · Post by **MaggieRedwings** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:34 am

Morning Tex,

I am sure they ate first and asked questions later. Survival of the fastest and fittest.

Have bookmarked the article and will try to get to it today.

Thanks & Love, Maggie