Yeah, I agree, that it's amazing that it's taking so damn long for the science to match up with what we already know or others have known. Though it still appears to be an uphill battle for mainstream medical folks to accept and work with.Matthew wrote:Amazing
IMHO isn’t this exactly the science that Elaine Gottshall along with help from Dr Haas and other doctors explained in her book “Breaking the Vicious Cycle” first published in the early nineties.
Her science certainly lead me in the right direction.
It was my first research and lead me very early on to a grain free diet. Despite the recommendation to eat yogurt and legumes that I already new were big problems her basic ideas eventually morphed to the Paleo diet or better said the NeoPaleo diet.
It’s pretty interesting to see that Doctors feel that they are coming up with new ideas when in reality they have been around for quite a while in a book that can be found in every health food store I walk into.
Of course getting people to follow the diet is an even bigger hope than the hope of doctors understanding it.
Matthew
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Indeed, there are quite a few other things that this gut bacteria does that amazes me each time I learn something new. For example I read in one study that 10% of the energy that our bodies get is produced by our gut bacteria.tex wrote:Mike,
Makes sense to me.
Are you aware that gut colonization with bifidobacteria during the first year of life may be a key link to preventing allergies later in life?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
I think that's a very profound effect. Also, are you aware that they may actually prevent some forms of tumor growth?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
Tex
Hi Good buddies!
I have been so busy lately that I haven't been able to follow all of the discussions closely, so please bear with me if I am repetitive.............
Isn't the bifidobacteria the type that was lacking in both Mike and Cristi? And we wondered if it might be a problem in general with MC ?- but we don't really know because because most of us are never tested for it.
Also, is anyone aware of a probiotic that contains bifidobacteria exclusively? I just looked up "bifidobacteria" in wikipedia and found out that there are over 30 strains and that in normal adults, 3-6% of the fecal bacteria are bifidobacteria.
Love,
Polly
I have been so busy lately that I haven't been able to follow all of the discussions closely, so please bear with me if I am repetitive.............
Isn't the bifidobacteria the type that was lacking in both Mike and Cristi? And we wondered if it might be a problem in general with MC ?- but we don't really know because because most of us are never tested for it.
Also, is anyone aware of a probiotic that contains bifidobacteria exclusively? I just looked up "bifidobacteria" in wikipedia and found out that there are over 30 strains and that in normal adults, 3-6% of the fecal bacteria are bifidobacteria.
Love,
Polly
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Hi Polly,
I'm not familiar enough with probiotics to be aware of a commercial brand with only bifidobacteria. Apparently, though, we may need to give more serious consideration to probiotics as we age. Here's a quote from an August, 2006 news release:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 08,00.html
It's beginning to appear that these bacteria have the potential to cure a lot of what ails us, to put it mildly.
Love,
Tex
I'm not familiar enough with probiotics to be aware of a commercial brand with only bifidobacteria. Apparently, though, we may need to give more serious consideration to probiotics as we age. Here's a quote from an August, 2006 news release:
This is from:About 90 per cent of the bacteria in the gut of a newborn infant are friendly microbes, but this is reduced to 10-15 per cent in the average adult. After the age of 60 to 65, levels of friendly bacteria plummet 1,000-fold. “The elderly are definitely an excellent market for probiotic intake,” Professor Gibson said. “Awareness in the UK is increasing slowly but it is not great. It is a tricky concept to get over to people.”
He said it was no accident that in the world’s worst recorded case of food poisoning by the stomach bug E. coli 0157, all those who died were elderly. A total of 21 people were killed in Lanarkshire, Scotland, in 1996.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 08,00.html
It's beginning to appear that these bacteria have the potential to cure a lot of what ails us, to put it mildly.
Love,
Tex
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I just thought that I'd mention that about a year ago I tried a strain of bifidobacteria (it didn't agree with me) through an internet source. I no longer have the product, since it didn't do me any good, but a search on the internet will yield results for anyon interested (my provider was in CA, and reputable, as far as I could tell).
Also, thank you, thank you for the connection to "The Food Doc". I saved it as a favorite, and will go back and read everything he has. My only complaint is that his diet says to eliminate everything I eliminated, and go on a diet of meat, fruits, veggies, and eggs. I can't do eggs, so of course I fall into the catagory of "all that's left is nuts and berries". Not literally, of course, because the fiber in nuts and berries is also detrimental, if overdone. %#@!!!
OK, I'm over it now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I am very thankful for having you all as friends. I want you to know I appreciate you all very much. Here's to a very good year for all of us.
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Also, thank you, thank you for the connection to "The Food Doc". I saved it as a favorite, and will go back and read everything he has. My only complaint is that his diet says to eliminate everything I eliminated, and go on a diet of meat, fruits, veggies, and eggs. I can't do eggs, so of course I fall into the catagory of "all that's left is nuts and berries". Not literally, of course, because the fiber in nuts and berries is also detrimental, if overdone. %#@!!!
OK, I'm over it now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I am very thankful for having you all as friends. I want you to know I appreciate you all very much. Here's to a very good year for all of us.
Love, Marsha
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Ditto Marsha's sentiments and I'll to that.artteacher wrote: I am very thankful for having you all as friends. I want you to know I appreciate you all very much. Here's to a very good year for all of us.
Love, Marsha
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Here are a couple with bifidobacterium only:tex wrote:Hi Polly,
I'm not familiar enough with probiotics to be aware of a commercial brand with only bifidobacteria. Apparently, though, we may need to give more serious consideration to probiotics as we age. Here's a quote from an August, 2006 news release:
This is from:About 90 per cent of the bacteria in the gut of a newborn infant are friendly microbes, but this is reduced to 10-15 per cent in the average adult. After the age of 60 to 65, levels of friendly bacteria plummet 1,000-fold. “The elderly are definitely an excellent market for probiotic intake,” Professor Gibson said. “Awareness in the UK is increasing slowly but it is not great. It is a tricky concept to get over to people.”
He said it was no accident that in the world’s worst recorded case of food poisoning by the stomach bug E. coli 0157, all those who died were elderly. A total of 21 people were killed in Lanarkshire, Scotland, in 1996.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 08,00.html
It's beginning to appear that these bacteria have the potential to cure a lot of what ails us, to put it mildly.
Love,
Tex
http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec ... t_id/25347
http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec ... ct_id/5677
Though that doesn't mean that everyone here is missing the bifido bacteria, you might be missing one of the other ones that the body needs. It would be good for folks to be tested before taking a probiotic to make sure they don't get further out of balance for what they need. Though it appears that the bifido is more clearly the one lacking in IBD, IBS and other GI diseases.
Mike